Dragtrode

jwilso72 · 03/26/2006, 06:51 AM

Heres my little brothers deck for his next tourney. A similar version landed me 7th in Nationals, so fingers crossed this should do just as well.

19 Pokemon
4 Plusle
3 Dratini (DS)
3 Dark Dragonair (Evo light)
3 Dark Dragonite
2 Voltorb (Frlg)
2 Dark Electrode
1 Rockets Sneasel ex
1 Rockets Scyther ex

25 Trainers
5 Gyms (4 Desert Ruins / 1 Rockets Hideout)
3 Stevens Advice
3 Copycat
1 Bills Maintenance
3 Rockets Pokeball
2 Mr Briney’s Compassion
2 Celios Network
2 Warp Point
1 Switch
1 ATM rock
1 Strength Charm
1 Pokemon Retriever

16 Energy
1 Scramble
3 R
4 Dark
4 Dark Metal
4 Rainbow

Personally I think the trainer line is shabby - however I cannot add any Rockets Admin/swoops / Pows as they are all in a more important deck (i.e my one).

The choice of Dratin and Voltorb is also bugging me. Which one is the best? Previously Ive been using the Pound Dratini - as the others energy cost were too difficult to pay for and weakness to (C) hurt. Also of the Voltorbs, the TRRs versions attacks were good, but the energy cost for the others seem a problem.

Any changes/fixes people? Please try not to radically change it - otherwise my brother will have some trouble getting to grips with it.

Thanks

ludicolous · 03/26/2006, 07:05 AM

rocket's scyther EX is bad, don't use it.

Also, don't run desert ruins if you have sneasel sitting out there. Run 4 rocket's hideout

drop the bill's maintenance for another rocket's pokeball

do 3-2-3 dark dragonite and drop a plusle for 2 more rocket's sneasel EX

drop the celios and 1 of your extra gyms for 3 great ball

take out 4 dark metal energies for 3 POWS and an admin

there.

moza · 03/26/2006, 07:16 AM

Desert Ruins doesen't hurt the Sneasel, and Scyther ex isin't as bad as you might think. Rock-Lock usually eats this deck, and it OHKO's the SD Ttar and also OHKO's Nidoqueens. You are using the right Dratini and Voltorb IMO. The free retreat is nice on the voltorb if it has an energy and 50 Hp is way better than 40 Hp on both the dratini and voltorb.

ludicolous · 03/26/2006, 07:27 AM

whoops overlooked that... i think more sneasle over rocket's scyther though fo rizzo

PokePlayer03 · 03/26/2006, 08:26 AM

I would definetly not remove the Dark Metals. Maybe just my opinion, but when I play dragtrode they help me out A LOT.

radyzyk · 03/26/2006, 09:55 AM

Pulse sucks on dragtrode, u cant spend energy for retreat ...try to use lannet
and R schyter is the key vs rock lock or queendom

Bohn · 03/26/2006, 01:43 PM

dragtrode is dead, just try another thing =/

AquaChallengerB · 03/27/2006, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bohn

dragtrode is dead, just try another thing =/

hahaha good one but so not true it can still go point to point with the best of them (deck wise)
i hate it when people bash a deck that still has flare in it

PokePlayer03 · 03/27/2006, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AquaChallengerB

hahaha good one but so not true it can still go point to point with the best of them (deck wise)
i hate it when people bash a deck that still has flare in it

Conquer. Dragtrode still has a lot of power.

Dek · 03/27/2006, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bohn

dragtrode is dead, just try another thing =/

O RLY

jwilso72 · 03/28/2006, 09:25 AM

Yeah, Draggy still can put up a strong matchup against some of the heavily played decks. Any other help though?

Ive realised Plusle is no way similar to Dunsparce, as it has to either retreat or get KOd. Ive considered the Dual Ball/LNS but it doesnt seem to be effective when theres only 1 R. Sneasel ex in the household. Any ways past this people?

Dek · 03/28/2006, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwilso72

Yeah, Draggy still can put up a strong matchup against some of the heavily played decks. Any other help though?

Ive realised Plusle is no way similar to Dunsparce, as it has to either retreat or get KOd. Ive considered the Dual Ball/LNS but it doesnt seem to be effective when theres only 1 R. Sneasel ex in the household. Any ways past this people?

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my two cents

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Professor Elm · 03/28/2006, 05:47 PM

Pokemon (20)
3 D. Draggy
3 D. Dragonair
3 Dratini
3 D. Trode
1 Trode ex (Needed for recovery)
3 Torb
2 R. Sneasel ex
2 Mew ex

Trainers (People hate my trainer line so you may not like it but it works for me)
4 Celios
4 Rockets Pokeball
4 Desert Ruins
3 Stevens
2 Copycat
4 Dual Ball
2 Lanettes
1 Warp point
1 Hideout

Energy (15)
4 Dark
4 Dark Metal
4 Rainbow
2 R Energy
1 Holons Trode

There ya go it could work for you.

PokePlayer03 · 03/28/2006, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Professor Elm

Pokemon (20)
3 D. Draggy
3 D. Dragonair
3 Dratini
3 D. Trode
1 Trode ex (Needed for recovery)
3 Torb
2 R. Sneasel ex
2 Mew ex

Trainers (People hate my trainer line so you may not like it but it works for me)
4 Celios
4 Rockets Pokeball
4 Desert Ruins
3 Stevens
2 Copycat
4 Dual Ball
2 Lanettes
1 Warp point
1 Hideout

Energy (15)
4 Dark
4 Dark Metal
4 Rainbow
2 R Energy
1 Holons Trode

There ya go it could work for you.

Interesting. I'm glad to see some people still use Trode ex in Dragtrode. But why three Dark Electrode?

moza · 03/29/2006, 06:35 AM

It can be a nice *very* nice attacker

Dark_Jirachi · 03/29/2006, 07:06 AM

more sneasel!!!

Boofu · 03/29/2006, 09:03 AM

Mew Ex is a great tech in this deck...

It takes care of machamp.

Ditto (Mr. Mime) also isn't too bad.

You might say... "But Dark Dragonite has a resistance to fighting! He can surely take care of Champ!"

But you don't want to put your dark dragonite on the line and many machamp decks run magnetic storm.

Yamazaru · 03/29/2006, 10:51 AM

why not tech in a Lugia EX? they have their big EX out and you slap that down, move a D/M energy and Rainbow to it and attach a Holon Ton Trode and it dies. lose the R energy for more Ton/Trode
PS Ive posted on all the topic on the front page!!! can i have a cookie?

MirChamp · 03/29/2006, 11:11 AM

Plusle worked well for me. Just lose the dual balls for swoop. You can start out with Plusle, land two basics, swoop it for dratini, evolve use Evolutionary light, without retreating.

*Mob2099* · 03/29/2006, 01:35 PM

my 2 cents worth......

17 Pokemon

4 Dratini (DS)
3 Dark Dragonair (Evo light)
3 Dark Dragonite
2 Voltorb (Frlg)
2 Dark Electrode
2 Rockets Sneasel ex
1 Rockets Scyther ex

27 Trainers
4 Gyms (3 Desert Ruins / 1 tricky)
2 Stevens Advice
2 Copycat
2 admin
4 Rockets Pokeball
2 transceiver
2 holon mentor
1 scientist
2 Warp Point
2 mr briney
1 ATM rock
1 Strength Charm
1 Pokemon Retriever
1 scott

16 Energy
1 Scramble
3 R
4 Dark
4 Dark Metal
4 Rainbow

jwilso72 · 03/29/2006, 01:57 PM

Wow loads of replies! makes a change. Thanks guys :D

I thought of Swooping Plusle but the only way to get them out consistantly would be to run 4 of them but thats a nice idea all the same.

Mew ex would be *awesome* in this deck I know, but that card is far to out of reach for my wallet. The Mr Mime Ditto sounds a bit risky, but it does look very tempting to have a few tries out against a Medicham deck, so Ill give that a test.

Mob2099: Thanks very much. That trainer line also looks like a excellent list for me to experiment with. Im liking that a lot as Ive always wanted to try out the Holon engine sometime.

Thanks to all for the help :)

coolmanderzx · 03/29/2006, 03:45 PM

um first off from my experience since I've tried it the holon engine doesn't fare well in dragtrode even with the Trode ex. the discard ends up benig to costly in a match-up especially if its a crucial evo or energy u would need to power up sneasal. Btw the you should focus on the speedtrode part of dragtrode since its the most effective one. 3-4 sneasals will help you press the offensive early and can keep many players who use jirachi with the holon engine from stallin and set-up.

PokePlayer03 · 03/31/2006, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolmanderzx

um first off from my experience since I've tried it the holon engine doesn't fare well in dragtrode even with the Trode ex. the discard ends up benig to costly in a match-up especially if its a crucial evo or energy u would need to power up sneasal. Btw the you should focus on the speedtrode part of dragtrode since its the most effective one. 3-4 sneasals will help you press the offensive early and can keep many players who use jirachi with the holon engine from stallin and set-up.

Are you talking about speednite? Yeah, that does work very well.

TheLegendKiller · 04/01/2006, 03:38 PM

oolalala, rocket scyther is perfect tech in dragtrode against queendom. James i was on the recieving end of it in Manchester,lol.... i would keep it.... its okay list for your brother.Only real changes you can make is adding the Rocket Sneasels but u dont have them.. Anyway im sure he will do well as the 11-14 isnt as competitive as the 15+

04/01/2006, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLegendKiller

oolalala, rocket scyther is perfect tech in dragtrode against queendom. James i was on the recieving end of it in Manchester,lol.... i would keep it.... its okay list for your brother.Only real changes you can make is adding the Rocket Sneasels but u dont have them.. Anyway im sure he will do well as the 11-14 isnt as competitive as the 15+

actually thats sorta incorrect, i would say that the 11-14 and the 15+ are on the same level of play, other than the newbies. because our age group has more newbies, we are looked at as infirior. i know so many 15+ people that i have beaten, and some are even regular tourney winners, same goes for 11-14, so i consider them both to be equal.

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03/26/2006, 06:51 AM	#1
jwilso72	Dragtrode Heres my little brothers deck for his next tourney. A similar version landed me 7th in Nationals, so fingers crossed this should do just as well. 19 Pokemon 4 Plusle 3 Dratini (DS) 3 Dark Dragonair (Evo light) 3 Dark Dragonite 2 Voltorb (Frlg) 2 Dark Electrode 1 Rockets Sneasel ex 1 Rockets Scyther ex 25 Trainers 5 Gyms (4 Desert Ruins / 1 Rockets Hideout) 3 Stevens Advice 3 Copycat 1 Bills Maintenance 3 Rockets Pokeball 2 Mr Briney’s Compassion 2 Celios Network 2 Warp Point 1 Switch 1 ATM rock 1 Strength Charm 1 Pokemon Retriever 16 Energy 1 Scramble 3 R 4 Dark 4 Dark Metal 4 Rainbow Personally I think the trainer line is shabby - however I cannot add any Rockets Admin/swoops / Pows as they are all in a more important deck (i.e my one). The choice of Dratin and Voltorb is also bugging me. Which one is the best? Previously Ive been using the Pound Dratini - as the others energy cost were too difficult to pay for and weakness to (C) hurt. Also of the Voltorbs, the TRRs versions attacks were good, but the energy cost for the others seem a problem. Any changes/fixes people? Please try not to radically change it - otherwise my brother will have some trouble getting to grips with it. Thanks __________________ Have & trade list :)

03/26/2006, 07:05 AM	#2
ludicolous	rocket's scyther EX is bad, don't use it. Also, don't run desert ruins if you have sneasel sitting out there. Run 4 rocket's hideout drop the bill's maintenance for another rocket's pokeball do 3-2-3 dark dragonite and drop a plusle for 2 more rocket's sneasel EX drop the celios and 1 of your extra gyms for 3 great ball take out 4 dark metal energies for 3 POWS and an admin there. __________________ Top8 Maryland Regionals 2008 1st Battle Roads September 2007 2nd Virginia Gym Challenge May 2006

03/26/2006, 07:16 AM	#3
moza	Desert Ruins doesen't hurt the Sneasel, and Scyther ex isin't as bad as you might think. Rock-Lock usually eats this deck, and it OHKO's the SD Ttar and also OHKO's Nidoqueens. You are using the right Dratini and Voltorb IMO. The free retreat is nice on the voltorb if it has an energy and 50 Hp is way better than 40 Hp on both the dratini and voltorb.

03/26/2006, 07:27 AM	#4
ludicolous	whoops overlooked that... i think more sneasle over rocket's scyther though fo rizzo __________________ Top8 Maryland Regionals 2008 1st Battle Roads September 2007 2nd Virginia Gym Challenge May 2006

03/26/2006, 08:26 AM	#5
PokePlayer03	I would definetly not remove the Dark Metals. Maybe just my opinion, but when I play dragtrode they help me out A LOT. __________________ Best Hogwarts RPG on the net!

03/26/2006, 09:55 AM	#6
radyzyk	Pulse sucks on dragtrode, u cant spend energy for retreat ...try to use lannet and R schyter is the key vs rock lock or queendom

03/26/2006, 01:43 PM	#7
Bohn	dragtrode is dead, just try another thing =/ __________________ 2006 - 6th at Nats ; 2007 - Brazilian master champion 2008 - Invite #1 from S.A rankings ; 2009 - 6th at Nats 2010 - No Nats, but still won the only State The Bohwnage man from TBA

03/28/2006, 09:25 AM	#11
jwilso72	Yeah, Draggy still can put up a strong matchup against some of the heavily played decks. Any other help though? Ive realised Plusle is no way similar to Dunsparce, as it has to either retreat or get KOd. Ive considered the Dual Ball/LNS but it doesnt seem to be effective when theres only 1 R. Sneasel ex in the household. Any ways past this people? __________________ Have & trade list :)

03/28/2006, 05:47 PM	#13
Professor Elm	Pokemon (20) 3 D. Draggy 3 D. Dragonair 3 Dratini 3 D. Trode 1 Trode ex (Needed for recovery) 3 Torb 2 R. Sneasel ex 2 Mew ex Trainers (People hate my trainer line so you may not like it but it works for me) 4 Celios 4 Rockets Pokeball 4 Desert Ruins 3 Stevens 2 Copycat 4 Dual Ball 2 Lanettes 1 Warp point 1 Hideout Energy (15) 4 Dark 4 Dark Metal 4 Rainbow 2 R Energy 1 Holons Trode There ya go it could work for you. __________________ My Trade List Team San Antonio "Quality players, not quantity."

03/29/2006, 06:35 AM	#15
moza	It can be a nice very nice attacker

03/29/2006, 07:06 AM	#16
Dark_Jirachi	more sneasel!!! __________________ I don't have any signature. Do I?

03/29/2006, 09:03 AM	#17
Boofu	Mew Ex is a great tech in this deck... It takes care of machamp. Ditto (Mr. Mime) also isn't too bad. You might say... "But Dark Dragonite has a resistance to fighting! He can surely take care of Champ!" But you don't want to put your dark dragonite on the line and many machamp decks run magnetic storm. __________________ You know you are in Texas when you discover that you can get sunburned through your car window.

03/29/2006, 11:11 AM	#19
MirChamp	Plusle worked well for me. Just lose the dual balls for swoop. You can start out with Plusle, land two basics, swoop it for dratini, evolve use Evolutionary light, without retreating.

03/29/2006, 01:35 PM	#20
Mob2099	my 2 cents worth...... 17 Pokemon 4 Dratini (DS) 3 Dark Dragonair (Evo light) 3 Dark Dragonite 2 Voltorb (Frlg) 2 Dark Electrode 2 Rockets Sneasel ex 1 Rockets Scyther ex 27 Trainers 4 Gyms (3 Desert Ruins / 1 tricky) 2 Stevens Advice 2 Copycat 2 admin 4 Rockets Pokeball 2 transceiver 2 holon mentor 1 scientist 2 Warp Point 2 mr briney 1 ATM rock 1 Strength Charm 1 Pokemon Retriever 1 scott 16 Energy 1 Scramble 3 R 4 Dark 4 Dark Metal 4 Rainbow __________________ Good Luck! and Have FUN! *MOB* I wish I was Vulcan sometimes, if not all the time.

03/29/2006, 01:57 PM	#21
jwilso72	Wow loads of replies! makes a change. Thanks guys :D I thought of Swooping Plusle but the only way to get them out consistantly would be to run 4 of them but thats a nice idea all the same. Mew ex would be awesome in this deck I know, but that card is far to out of reach for my wallet. The Mr Mime Ditto sounds a bit risky, but it does look very tempting to have a few tries out against a Medicham deck, so Ill give that a test. Mob2099: Thanks very much. That trainer line also looks like a excellent list for me to experiment with. Im liking that a lot as Ive always wanted to try out the Holon engine sometime. Thanks to all for the help :) __________________ Have & trade list :)

03/29/2006, 03:45 PM	#22
coolmanderzx	um first off from my experience since I've tried it the holon engine doesn't fare well in dragtrode even with the Trode ex. the discard ends up benig to costly in a match-up especially if its a crucial evo or energy u would need to power up sneasal. Btw the you should focus on the speedtrode part of dragtrode since its the most effective one. 3-4 sneasals will help you press the offensive early and can keep many players who use jirachi with the holon engine from stallin and set-up. __________________ My Haves My Refs

04/01/2006, 03:38 PM	#24
TheLegendKiller	oolalala, rocket scyther is perfect tech in dragtrode against queendom. James i was on the recieving end of it in Manchester,lol.... i would keep it.... its okay list for your brother.Only real changes you can make is adding the Rocket Sneasels but u dont have them.. Anyway im sure he will do well as the 11-14 isnt as competitive as the 15+ __________________ I never won anything period and I play for "Booster Pack Prizes".