Hay Maker.

Samurai Solder · 04/09/2006, 12:35 PM

Sorry if this is the wrong forum, by the way!

Hello guys, I am Samurai Soldier and after...6 years I am starting to play Pokemon again, but I can't not play T2 only Eternal, and I am trying to build the old Hay Maker deck, here is what I have for it so far:

Also, sorry if I get energy names wrong, product of not playing!

(If you feel like making a suggestion I only have cards up to Neo-1, please suggest only cards from that set and below, thanks!)

Hay Maker: 60

Energy: 24
X10 Fighting
X10 Grass
X4 Potion Energy

Creature: 12
X4 Scyther (Jungle)
X2 Rockets Hitmonchan
X2 Hitmonchan
X2 Rockets Scyther
X2 Giovannoi's Pinsir

Tranier: 6
X4 Bill
X2 Brock

Professor Elm · 04/09/2006, 12:46 PM

Go w/ babys and Sneasel.

Pokemon (12)
4 Cleffa
4 Tyrogue
4 Sneasel (NG)

Trainers (36)
4 Oak
4 Bill
4 Pluspower
4 Focus Band
4 Gust of Wind
4 Item Finder
2 Elm
4 ER
4 ER2
2 Energy Charge

Energy (12)
4 Darkness
4 DarkMetal
4 Fighting

Samurai Solder · 04/09/2006, 01:31 PM

what are ER and ER2?

_Cookie · 04/09/2006, 01:35 PM

energy removal and energy removal 2

Samurai Solder · 04/09/2006, 01:42 PM

ok, I was wondering, can I play 2 different versions of scyther? (Rockets and the original)

Charizardian · 04/09/2006, 02:43 PM

As long as combined they don't exceed 4.

Oh, and incase you didn't know, you can only use cards in actual tournemnets that are Hidden Legends.

Samurai Solder · 04/09/2006, 03:12 PM

Thats cool, I wasn't going to play in sanctioned tournaments (this is for a casual group of players) I haven't played Pokemon since 2000, so I'm getting back into it, any fixes though?

*Flareon* · 04/09/2006, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samurai Solder

ok, I was wondering, can I play 2 different versions of scyther? (Rockets and the original)

The name is what is important. You could have 4 "Rocket's Scyther" and 4 "Scyther" in one deck if you wanted to.
Consider playing in sanctioned tournaments, it really is a lot fun. Plus you get free stuff

Samurai Solder · 04/09/2006, 03:26 PM

I own no new cards XD

Umbreon777 · 04/09/2006, 04:35 PM

Wow, you need a lot more trainers. Some key elements in haymaker decks are gust of wind and energy removal

Samurai Solder · 04/09/2006, 04:41 PM

kk, any other fixes?

dragonspy900 · 04/09/2006, 04:42 PM

Pokemon
3 Hitmonchan
3 Electabuzz
3 Scyther
3 Clefairy
2 Clefable

Trainers
4 Professor Oak
4 Energy Removal
3 Super Energy Removal
4 Gust of Wind
4 Computer Search
3 Item Finder
3 Switch
4 Plus Power

Energy
4 Dooble Colorless Energy
7 Fighting
6 Lighting

I used to play this deck in the 2nd grade at school, and it woon 4 competitions with 6 people in it. Also, this is my version oof Hiedi's (East Coast champion) deck with Soome minor fixes

Samurai Solder · 04/09/2006, 05:08 PM

Wow, I feel really.....idk.

ninetales1234 · 04/09/2006, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samurai Solder

I own no new cards XD

That's okay, POP sanctions Unlimited tournaments. All the Premiere Events are in the Modified Format, but there are leagues that have sanctioned Unlimited tournaments (like Aardvark Gym

). People can play for Unlimited Ratings, in addition to Modified Ratings.

Professor Elm · 04/09/2006, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragonspy900

Pokemon
3 Hitmonchan
3 Electabuzz
3 Scyther
3 Clefairy
2 Clefable

Trainers
4 Professor Oak
4 Energy Removal
3 Super Energy Removal
4 Gust of Wind
4 Computer Search
3 Item Finder
3 Switch
4 Plus Power

Energy
4 Dooble Colorless Energy
7 Fighting
6 Lighting

I used to play this deck in the 2nd grade at school, and it woon 4 competitions with 6 people in it. Also, this is my version oof Hiedi's (East Coast champion) deck with Soome minor fixes

Nice deck BUT 17 energy!!!!
In unlimited the max is 14 w/ Nightly garbage run.

Samurai Solder · 04/09/2006, 08:38 PM

Is there a Max energy allowance?

Professor Elm · 04/09/2006, 08:40 PM

no of course not.
what I meant was that you are crazy to play more than 14 energy in unlimited

Samurai Solder · 04/09/2006, 08:43 PM

ohh k

Professor Elm · 04/09/2006, 08:46 PM

ya see you need at least 20 trainers in every deck for draw power and stuff.
But it is just broken in unlimited cause there is so much draw power. EDIT. So you can draw energy fine if you have a bunch of trainers to let u draw cards

Samurai Solder · 04/10/2006, 01:58 PM

Is Erika (sp) any good?

Professor Elm · 04/10/2006, 03:52 PM

OK if you dont have any thing else.
OAK/Elm/Bill are much better though

Samurai Solder · 04/10/2006, 06:38 PM

I know I have Oak/Bill, what set is Elm in?

ninetales1234 · 04/10/2006, 08:02 PM

Neo Genesis

04/10/2006, 08:57 PM

they should remake Bill AKA ruin the format

Samurai Solder · 04/11/2006, 01:04 PM

Wow, a lot of people are taking in a deck that isn't modified, idk what that means, but...thanks, and keep the suggestions rolling (I'm modding my deck as we speak)

Here is my beta Hay Maker Deck:

Energy: 14
X7 Fighting
X7 Electricty

Trainer: 30
X4 Bill
X4 Professor Oak
X4 Professor Elm
X4 Gust of Wind
X4 Energy Removal
X4 Computer Search
X4 Nightly Garbage Run
X2 Super Energy Removal

Pokemon: 16
X3 Hitmonchan
X3 Scyther (Jun)
X3 Electabuzz
X3 LT. Surge's Electabuzz (foil)
X2 Rocket's Hitmonchan
X2 Rocket's Zapdos ?

04/09/2006, 04:35 PM	#10
Umbreon777 Images: 1	Wow, you need a lot more trainers. Some key elements in haymaker decks are gust of wind and energy removal __________________ Dustin Zimmerman - Masters 2008 Michigan State Champion 2010 Indiana State Champion 2012 Ohio State Champion 2012 Kentucky State Champion

04/09/2006, 04:42 PM	#12
dragonspy900 Images: 1	Pokemon 3 Hitmonchan 3 Electabuzz 3 Scyther 3 Clefairy 2 Clefable Trainers 4 Professor Oak 4 Energy Removal 3 Super Energy Removal 4 Gust of Wind 4 Computer Search 3 Item Finder 3 Switch 4 Plus Power Energy 4 Dooble Colorless Energy 7 Fighting 6 Lighting I used to play this deck in the 2nd grade at school, and it woon 4 competitions with 6 people in it. Also, this is my version oof Hiedi's (East Coast champion) deck with Soome minor fixes __________________ Decks Played : 2004-2005 Magma 2005-2006 Speedrill 2008-2009 Kingdra 2004: Top 4 Gym Challenge Invite via LCQ Worlds 37th place 2006: 13th States 11-14 2009: 29th Regionals Last edited by dragonspy900; 04/09/2006 at 05:14 PM.

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04/09/2006, 12:35 PM	#1
Samurai Solder	Hay Maker. Sorry if this is the wrong forum, by the way! Hello guys, I am Samurai Soldier and after...6 years I am starting to play Pokemon again, but I can't not play T2 only Eternal, and I am trying to build the old Hay Maker deck, here is what I have for it so far: Also, sorry if I get energy names wrong, product of not playing! (If you feel like making a suggestion I only have cards up to Neo-1, please suggest only cards from that set and below, thanks!) Hay Maker: 60 Energy: 24 X10 Fighting X10 Grass X4 Potion Energy Creature: 12 X4 Scyther (Jungle) X2 Rockets Hitmonchan X2 Hitmonchan X2 Rockets Scyther X2 Giovannoi's Pinsir Tranier: 6 X4 Bill X2 Brock

04/09/2006, 12:46 PM	#2
Professor Elm	Go w/ babys and Sneasel. Pokemon (12) 4 Cleffa 4 Tyrogue 4 Sneasel (NG) Trainers (36) 4 Oak 4 Bill 4 Pluspower 4 Focus Band 4 Gust of Wind 4 Item Finder 2 Elm 4 ER 4 ER2 2 Energy Charge Energy (12) 4 Darkness 4 DarkMetal 4 Fighting __________________ My Trade List Team San Antonio "Quality players, not quantity."

04/09/2006, 01:35 PM	#4
_Cookie	energy removal and energy removal 2 __________________ (awesome traders in bold)refrences: lilgroundon, shadowofmodor,fchangus2,Switchc2390, MadHatter, Poliwag92, Niqu3, http://www.pokegym.net/forums/showthread.php?t=34256

04/09/2006, 01:42 PM	#5
Samurai Solder	ok, I was wondering, can I play 2 different versions of scyther? (Rockets and the original)

04/09/2006, 02:43 PM	#6
Charizardian	As long as combined they don't exceed 4. Oh, and incase you didn't know, you can only use cards in actual tournemnets that are Hidden Legends. __________________ Signature? I'm far too cool to have one of those.

04/09/2006, 03:12 PM	#7
Samurai Solder	Thats cool, I wasn't going to play in sanctioned tournaments (this is for a casual group of players) I haven't played Pokemon since 2000, so I'm getting back into it, any fixes though?

04/09/2006, 05:08 PM	#13
Samurai Solder	Wow, I feel really.....idk.

04/09/2006, 08:38 PM	#16
Samurai Solder	Is there a Max energy allowance?

04/09/2006, 08:40 PM	#17
Professor Elm	no of course not. what I meant was that you are crazy to play more than 14 energy in unlimited __________________ My Trade List Team San Antonio "Quality players, not quantity."

04/09/2006, 08:46 PM	#19
Professor Elm	ya see you need at least 20 trainers in every deck for draw power and stuff. But it is just broken in unlimited cause there is so much draw power. EDIT. So you can draw energy fine if you have a bunch of trainers to let u draw cards __________________ My Trade List Team San Antonio "Quality players, not quantity."

04/10/2006, 01:58 PM	#20
Samurai Solder	Is Erika (sp) any good?

04/10/2006, 03:52 PM	#21
Professor Elm	OK if you dont have any thing else. OAK/Elm/Bill are much better though __________________ My Trade List Team San Antonio "Quality players, not quantity."

04/10/2006, 06:38 PM	#22
Samurai Solder	I know I have Oak/Bill, what set is Elm in?

04/10/2006, 08:57 PM	#24
The Sannin Guest	they should remake Bill AKA ruin the format

04/11/2006, 01:04 PM	#25
Samurai Solder	Wow, a lot of people are taking in a deck that isn't modified, idk what that means, but...thanks, and keep the suggestions rolling (I'm modding my deck as we speak) Here is my beta Hay Maker Deck: Energy: 14 X7 Fighting X7 Electricty Trainer: 30 X4 Bill X4 Professor Oak X4 Professor Elm X4 Gust of Wind X4 Energy Removal X4 Computer Search X4 Nightly Garbage Run X2 Super Energy Removal Pokemon: 16 X3 Hitmonchan X3 Scyther (Jun) X3 Electabuzz X3 LT. Surge's Electabuzz (foil) X2 Rocket's Hitmonchan X2 Rocket's Zapdos ? Last edited by Samurai Solder; 04/11/2006 at 02:31 PM.