Pokémon Diamond & Pearl

[Akiparuk]

I feel the difference between the DP series and the EX series is greater than the difference between the EX series and the previous. So mathematically, DP - EX > EX - (the previous).

Alright, so is it a disadvantage to play decks from the EX series? Is it worth buying cards from EX series now?

[Miamisportsfan45]

Yes, it's worth buying. In my opinion.

[Akiparuk]

And can somebody explain why? I'm sure in exams you don't just answer by yes or no: you explain and express your answer!

[Miamisportsfan45]

It's a new era of Pokemon...I really don't feel the need to explain anything. Every new released set has its pros and cons.

[TheDarkTwins]

Okay. I am not including trainers in my talking. So if you say that this set is better because of a trainer or trainers that isnt what I am talking about.

I feel that each "era" or pokemon the pokemon have gotten better as attks and powers.

RB Era then GS Era then RS Era now DP Era.

I feel the pokemon are getting stronger and stronger each time a new generation is made.

Drew

[Burninating_Torchic]

People still played cards from the E-Block when the RS block came out.
People will still play ex-series cards even with DP out.

[Miamisportsfan45]

Originally Posted by TheDarkTwins

Okay. I am not including trainers in my talking. So if you say that this set is better because of a trainer or trainers that isnt what I am talking about.

I feel that each "era" or pokemon the pokemon have gotten better as attks and powers.

RB Era then GS Era then RS Era now DP Era.

I feel the pokemon are getting stronger and stronger each time a new generation is made.

Drew

Somewhat but they can't exceed a limit or the TCG would be broken.

~MSF45

Originally Posted by Burninating_Torchic

People still played cards from the E-Block when the RS block came out.
People will still play ex-series cards even with DP out.

Agreed. Just not as many now.

[Akiparuk]

Yeah...DP is better if you look at the HP and attack cost. Most of the evolutions are over 100 HP. Energyless for 10 damage, 1 Energy for 20. 2 Energy for 40 or more. Infernape's Flare Blitz deals 90 for only 2 Energy. This puts EX series in disadvantage.
Of course we can still play EX but it just doesn't work well with DP. So basically, from the next months, you wouldn't play EX in tournaments.

[bullados]

I'd still stick with certain decks. Metanite, Flygons, Destiny, most of the good decks right now should stay good through the transition. Holon Trainer Engine will still make the Delta Pokemon very playable, and the new Pokemon will probably have to work off either a Scott or Castaway engine, as there are no particularly great trainers to base an engine around in DP.

[Tego]

If the international Pokémon TCG scene will be anything like Japan's has been, it will be like this:

After the release of DP1: Virtually no impact on the metagame. Ex series-heavy decks are the way to go if you want to win, and only new/inexperienced players bother to go with DP decks.

After the release of DP2: Strong cards like Blissey and new useful Trainer cards make an inpact on the metagame, and a new DP card-influenced metagame starts rising.

I don't know it this helps, but my advice is to buy DP no matter not because it will be huge later, but to not be afraid to fail at Worlds if your deck consists of EX sets (in fact, it's probably better to just go with a strong ex series deck ...)

[Absoltrainer]

Originally Posted by Tego

I don't know it this helps, but my advice is to buy DP no matter not because it will be huge later, but to not be afraid to fail at Worlds if your deck consists of EX sets (in fact, it's probably better to just go with a strong ex series deck ...)

So buy DP just to have it and maybe use, but ex set decks will most likely have a better chance at winning?

[Quatra]

Sooner or later you'll be getting into the DP set for decks when they eliminate Ex sets. You could build a DP deck just incase things go that direction sooner than planned. You never know what to expect with Nintendo. This could be the last Season with the Ex sets, maybe not, just don't know for sure until it happens.

[Tego]

Well, look at it like this: There are currently 4 Delta Species-themed sets available. The cards you find in these 4 sets work incredibly well together and can be used, like Holon's Castform (Holon Phantoms), Holon Transceiver (Delta Species) and Fearow (Ex Crystal Guardians). Ex Delta Species alone didn't make a huge impact on the metagame, but after 3 additional similar sets, the number of cards with great synergy is amazing, and it all works well together.

Will DP take down the powerful Delta Pokémon and Pokémon-ex once it's released? No way, not yet. A whole new theme/generation is here, of course we have to wait a bit before we can see its full potential.

[Pablo]

gosh Tego I think you're the only one here left with common sense and since you have already experienced how BAD a set DP is, you understand all the whiners about not being able to play ex series sets after DP is released is ridiculous.

[CyberManectric]

In the mean time, the new DP pokemon and the delta pokemon can work together if that's allowed in future tournaments. Like an Electvire/Dragonite d deck that delivers 120 damage every turn.

[Weedler]

Originally Posted by CyberManetric EX

In the mean time, the new DP pokemon and the delta pokemon can work together if that's allowed in future tournaments. Like an Electvire/Dragonite d deck that delivers 120 damage every turn.

But Electivire/drag compared to meta/drag?

While Elective does more for discard (120 for 3, at best) compared with metagross' 90 for three, Metagross gives you delta control, delta draw basic, and adjustable damage.

Superior to Electivie IMO

[Burninating_Torchic]

Originally Posted by Weedler

But Electivire/drag compared to meta/drag?

While Elective does more for discard (120 for 3, at best) compared with metagross' 90 for three, Metagross gives you delta control, delta draw basic, and adjustable damage.

Superior to Electivie IMO

Just wait until Electivire Lv.X comes out.

[Pablo]

yes electivire level x adds more depth to the deck

[Prime]

Honestly, until H. Castform is rotated out, I don't see any DP decks doing well at tournaments. Some of the new cards (Electivire) have delta versions of them which will obviously be used, but for the majority, not being delta and not being able to abuse castform will virtually make the decks unplayable imho.

[vicvic]

People use certain cards because they have good effects. People won tournaments because their decks are based on good combos and not necessarily because they had pokemon with the biggest HP and the lowest energy cost. As far as I see it, there are good cards in both EX and DP. You just need to know what are they. Buying random boosters of either EX or DP will not lead to successful decks.

[Martaveli]

So DP will be Pokemon World Championships legal correct?

[P_A]

Of course. It'll be out long before Worlds.

[LionheartEX]

Originally Posted by Prime

Honestly, until H. Castform is rotated out, I don't see any DP decks doing well at tournaments. Some of the new cards (Electivire) have delta versions of them which will obviously be used, but for the majority, not being delta and not being able to abuse castform will virtually make the decks unplayable imho.

Electabuzz d and Elekid d- specifically reffering to that deck. In general, it will be interesting to see exs work with the new Pokemon alike- remember, all the new pokemon have an advantage because most of them have the nerfed weakness, compared to all the current Pokemon still having double weakness. But that doesnt change the fact that the current cards still have huge hitters. I'm actually looking forward to DP. imo, the Nerfed Weaknesses compared to the double weaknesses balance out the Holon's Castform brokeness- plus, energyless attacks ftw! 0 for 10 :D

[(TYranitarFReak)]

everything's gonna start all over again. Know what i mean? there'll be safeguard poke to lv x, atks that do more dmg if def poke is lv x ........

i dont think electivire + draggy will be as good as infernape. discard all just ......, u know what i mean....

Plus, there's a possiblity that DS is gonna be rotated, so.... BB to draggy + electivire?

[Miamisportsfan45]

Originally Posted by P_A

Of course. It'll be out long before Worlds.

Obviously, but the question still remains. How will this release effect the metagame and what are the changing in rules and when will these changes take effect?

~MSF45