Why I Love Mario

[KingGengar]

I've seen some decks wondering why TRUK is so popular and what it is, so I figure this is the correct forum to answer questions about why MARIO is so popular and what it is, and I'll do it by listing what I love about the deck.

(1) It forces every deck to be quicker. Riolu hits for 30, then Lucario for 40+ snipe 20, and you are in control. This struggle for early dominance is the driving force behind today's power decks like T2 Blissey.
(2) It disrupts every deck that would like to have a Castform start. T1 Riolu hitting heads= gg or early prize. Most or all Delta decks become antiquated, especially with the loss of the Holon Engine.
(3) It disrupts every deck that would like to use Delcatty. Poor little kitty... are you out by yourself? tsk
(4) It disrupts every deck which woul like to use T1 Marill. What if you open with only Azurill?
(5) It has totally destroyed RaiEggs, a great deck in its day.
(6) It disrupts every deck that would like to use 30hp Magikarp. T1 Riolu again. Gyrarados is *so* formidable that without Riolu, Pachirisu might become in vogue!
(7) It disrupts every deck that would like to use 30hp Feebas. Milotic d could be interesting without this fear.
(8) Lucario is soooo efficient. 90hp, 1 retreat, Feint for 30 using any Energy, sniping destruction. And such cool artwork!
(9) Revenge is also one of the best attacks in the game. Although it takes a lot of flak for being so easy-to-use, its charm lies in its simplicity. No, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to pull off a quick 70, and that is what is so thrilling!
(10) Dynamic Punch is not only a cool attack, but has a great name. I love saying "Dynamic PUNCH!"
(11) Machamp has FOUR arms! *You* don't have four arms, and neither does Chuck Norris.
(12) Mario causes people to bristle. How can you not love playing a deck which causes opponents to give you ugly stares?
(13) The name "Mario" is related to Nintendo. Such synergy!
(14) Winning games with Machoke is very satisfying. You used neither the super-efficient Lucario nor the over-analyzed Machamp. Poor little Machoke- so humble, yet so powerful.
(15) Lucario Lv.X gives you a near-guaranteed extra turn. Holon Circle, take a back seat.
(16) Lucario Lv.X hits for 80 damage and has 1 retreat cost. I don't know about you, but I'm appalled at this impertinence.
(17) Mario's Trainer Engine is flexible enough to allow for techs without ruining consistency. So, go ahead, enjoy a Lake Boundary, or a Super Scoop Up. You deserve it!
(18) When you join the Mario Fan Club, you get a free pass to Worlds. j/k (maybe)
(19) Mario people are loving towards mankind, treat their family well, make enough money to be happy, and sleep well at night.
(20) I went to T16 at Nationals. Woot! Also won a Battle Roads.
(21) Even though Mario is not a deck, it still kicks big booty. Enjoy!

Cheers

[PokeMontoya]

I dont know if I can say anything else but LMAO too much fun here

[Articjedi]

And I said we weren't supposed to discuss upcoming articles here. Isn't this a little ironic that this was posted right after Kant sent in his submission?

[SHPanda]

but all those were just props to lucario :x. the only prop machamp got was it has 4 arms and has a cool sounding attack :-\

[KingGengar]

Originally Posted by Articjedi

And I said we weren't supposed to discuss upcoming articles here. Isn't this a little ironic that this was posted right after Kant sent in his submission?

Not that ironic. I saw you post in the Blissey thread about a deck whose followers have a "religious fervor" and I knew you meant Mario, so I thought I'd "shout some praise."

[moza]

1) It forces every deck to be quicker. Riolu hits for 30, then Lucario for 40+ snipe 20, and you are in control. This struggle for early dominance is the driving force behind today's power decks like T2 Blissey.

Just incase you didn't notice, EVERY deck does this now. There is no space for build-up decks anymore like LBS. Quite sad really, we have shifted to rush decks.

(2) It disrupts every deck that would like to have a Castform start. T1 Riolu hitting heads= gg or early prize. Most or all Delta decks become antiquated, especially with the loss of the Holon Engine.

Yeah no one uses Holon's Castoform anymore. It's not just because of RIOLU, but because of rush decks in general. Tune/blissey can T2 casty as well.

(3) It disrupts every deck that would like to use Delcatty. Poor little kitty... are you out by yourself? tsk

The skitty most commonly used is the Tail Whip one from PK. It has as good a chance to effectivly paralyze you as you do to KO it.

(4) It disrupts every deck which woul like to use T1 Marill. What if you open with only Azurill?

By "disrupt" you mean "ko quickly". There is a rather large difference there. RIOLU can do good damage, yes. So far with all of these it has been about RIOLU/LUCARIO, 2 good pokemon.

(5) It has totally destroyed RaiEggs, a great deck in its day.

After states Raieggs was shown to not be a viable option in the metagame. Before DP came out...

(6) It disrupts every deck that would like to use 30hp Magikarp. T1 Riolu again. Gyrarados is *so* formidable that without Riolu, Pachirisu might become in vogue!

Again with RIOLU :D

(7) It disrupts every deck that would like to use 30hp Feebas. Milotic d could be interesting without this fear.

So far at least 3 of your points have been the same. "KO their first basic because RIOLU can". This is not an argument against the mario-haters, just a simple part of the deck. RIOLU is a good card that can KO fast.

(8) Lucario is soooo efficient. 90hp, 1 retreat, Feint for 30 using any Energy, sniping destruction. And such cool artwork!

I too love LUCARIO

(9) Revenge is also one of the best attacks in the game. Although it takes a lot of flak for being so easy-to-use, its charm lies in its simplicity. No, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to pull off a quick 70, and that is what is so thrilling!

One of the best attacks in the game? It relies on you have gotten KO'D! And with wager now, it will be very hard to set up the candy machamp fighting combo that was do-able last year with little hand disruption. Are you just citing its simplicity as a good quality?

(10) Dynamic Punch is not only a cool attack, but has a great name. I love saying "Dynamic PUNCH!"

You got jokes, kid.

(11) Machamp has FOUR arms! *You* don't have four arms, and neither does Chuck Norris.

Behind Chuck Norris's beard is not a chin, just another fist. His legs and feet also have fully apposable thumbs. He has FIVE arms. Invalid point.

(12) Mario causes people to bristle. How can you not love playing a deck which causes opponents to give you ugly stares?

Be goth, you will like the way people look at you!

(13) The name "Mario" is related to Nintendo. Such synergy!

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(14) Winning games with Machoke is very satisfying. You used neither the super-efficient Lucario nor the over-analyzed Machamp. Poor little Machoke- so humble, yet so powerful.

Such amazing skill and thought put into it! Although I can't think of a single thing that can be T1'd by machop(opponent getting 0 turns), I guess there could be a few. Why not use Riolu :/

(15) Lucario Lv.X gives you a near-guaranteed extra turn. Holon Circle, take a back seat.

Yes, LUCARIO LV. X IS GOOD!

(16) Lucario Lv.X hits for 80 damage and has 1 retreat cost. I don't know about you, but I'm appalled at this impertinence.

Yes, LUCARIO LV.X IS GOOD!

(17) Mario's Trainer Engine is flexible enough to allow for techs without ruining consistency. So, go ahead, enjoy a Lake Boundary, or a Super Scoop Up. You deserve it!

I've used the list you have posted. I have not once, out of 20+ games, gotten what I would call a good start. And this is coming from the person who thought that starting with mentor/trans with metanite was a good start.

(18) When you join the Mario Fan Club, you get a free pass to Worlds. j/k (maybe)

I refuse to comment on this

(19) Mario people are loving towards mankind, treat their family well, make enough money to be happy, and sleep well at night.

They kill clouds(castoform). Clouds are a vital part of the global scheme of things. IDK how I could respect ANYONE who kills clouds.

(20) I went to T16 at Nationals. Woot! Also won a Battle Roads.

Won "a" battle road"s"? Also I believe that shiftry ex/claydol ex got T16/T8 in seniors. Crazy things do happen.

Like a miracle, but the opposite effect :P

Originally Posted by King Gengar, Supposed "Mario" inventor

(21) Even though Mario is not a deck, it still kicks big booty. Enjoy!

The people of these forums have the right to be enlightened!

All in all, LUCARIO is a good card. Machamp/Lucario shows almost no synergy at all other then "Hit hard and hope the game doesn't go on much longer".

[Articjedi]

I never said it was mario, but then again it could be.

You still haven't given a single reason why machamp is a good card.

[SHPanda]

but he said machamp has 4 arms. I mean think about what you could do with 4 arms.

[KingGengar]

The thread is "why I LOVE Mario." I wasn't making "arguments" for using Mario - that's in my Feature Article- this article just shows (humorously/seriously) why I (and other people) LOVE mario, and "what it is." Please stop spamming with counterpoints.

Lucario is awesome with Machamp, Blissey, even Empoleon. I think that's great. D-Cario is cool too.
Machamp is my personal favorite with Lucario. Don't rake people over the coals for their tastes.
And as far as winning with Mario, it happens frequently. Don't be a hater over success.

[Scizor]

I'm pretty sure 20 bullet points IS arguing why Mario is good.

BTW, take Mario into a big time enviornment or vs our decks, and I promise you wouldn't have the same views of the deck.

[KingGengar]

Not arguing. Just telling you why I love it. You can't change my mind just like I can't change anyone else's.

Which exact decks have I *not* played against?

I'm sure my views *would* change after playing y'all, whether for better or worse, but my love for Mario would not change.

[Prime]

Take Mario into a big time environment? Was Nationals not big enough...?

[Bolt]

TRUK himself called it after top cut at worlds, Yamato's speed empoleon deck would create a shift in our metagame, making it more speed oriented. Gone are the days of RockLock (a three stage 2 setup deck) and LBS (25+ pokemon maybe?) I don't have the IM log anymore, maybe he does.

Besides, Mario can't love you. He wants to date Peach.

edit: did I really read "enjoy a Super Scoop Up"?

[Prime]

I don't think it was that hard to notice how the format was shifting. The deck that won Nationals was Absolutions, and there were many lucario varients so the format was already shifting towards stage 1/basics. Then when MT came out, you either had to go speed or lose to decks like Blissey or Kricketune.

[Bolt]

Right, so Machamp DP/PK and Lucario DP together is not the thing that "forces every deck to be quicker."

Also a bunch of those points make it seem like...if you flip tails with Riolu, you lose.

[Lawman]

I personally think Mario is a good little deck. All you haters out there....put YOUR deck for Nats on the boards for at least 1 month prior...tell everyone that this IS your deck for Nats and see where you end up! Love him or hate him....Tom (KG) was like a slot machine at Nats.....here I am, take your best shot! He T16'd a 400 + event. Only 15 others can say the same thing here!

Keith

[B_B_C]

OMG! I love this thread! LONG LIVE MARIO!!!!!(LOOKS AT SIG)

[KingGengar]

I love that Mario went Top3 World's (Juniors). It doesn't mean that I think Mario is unbeatable. I just love that fact.

And Mario is not "the" thing that forces every deck to be quicker. It does it, just like Kricket, Empoleon, Blissey.

Thanks Keith! Love ya, man!

[pichu bros. rox]

I love the Machamp > you and huck Norris thing... sigged...

[Ancient Pokemon Trainer]

I have four arms...

I mean, I'm the world champ dude. ;p

[KingGengar]

Originally Posted by Ancient Pokemon Trainer

I have four arms...

I mean, I'm the world champ dude. ;p

we'll need photos...

[ShadowTogetic]

This thread is more like Why I love Lucario

And the 21st "reason" contradicts the very first statement

[chriscobi634]

I was liking the Rampados/lucario idea but like mentioned the Fossil E. probably got in the way of consistency. Mario is a deck you would give a junior or senior player who just started playing. The reason why lucario is so good is because a good psychic pokemon has yet to be made that is good against the rest of the metagame as well. duskqueen, are you serious, Stage 2 decks are almost don't exist right now. The reason why Empoleon good is because you could almost run a deck with just the prinplup as the main attacker, the reason why Meganium D is good cause of it's power and how well it's attack counters the metagame. Other then that GL to Stage 2 decks.

The Mario hate still exist because of that, it's probably one of the simplest decks that has ever been in the metagame. Don't get me wrong I love Lucario, I have been trying to find the best sidekick for it, and blissey is probably the best. But I don't like the lack of syngery in that, it's just the 2 best pokemon cards in the game right now. So I went Lucario by itself, and it takes guts to play only 4 basics in your deck (the kricketune is different because of CFF) then 4 wager and be good at wager. It fits my style of play with the bench hitting so that's another thing.

So yeah, this thread is too much of a joke. It's basically KingGengar wanting to announce even more that he made top 16 with it at nats. How many of those games did you win on T1 with Wild Kick or Machop and + power (that's the only reason you played 4, because the 4 weren't really needed, like in Infernape last year, people played 4 candy just hoping to get that T1 or T2 Candy, Ape, DRE, GG)? I personally hate the Riolu, i'm hoping they make another riolu/lucario before this one gets rotated out. Anything would be better then that Riolu, I'm not saying I wouldn't take the T1 win, but it's so cheap to play a deck hoping do get that, which you (KG) announced like 3 times in your points. It's like you don't trust your playing skills to actually win some legit matches.

[Cyrus]

Originally Posted by KingGengar

I've seen some decks wondering why TRUK is so popular and what it is, so I figure this is the correct forum to answer questions about why MARIO is so popular and what it is, and I'll do it by listing what I love about the deck.

(1) Overall agreed, but you aren't necessarily "dominant" thanks to Lucario...You become dominant if your opponent has a bad hand. Blissey gives it ****.
(2) Nonfactor...Castform isn't nearly as legit a starter as it used to be.
(3) Agreed
(4) Lol, nonfactor
(5) Irrelevant
(6) nonfactor
(7) Interesting point, but a weak argument for Mario.
(8) Agreed wholeheartidly!
(9) Revenge is a great attack, but it only works well if you can follow through next turn with Dynamic Punch. F for 20 on a stage two is kinda gimpy.
(10) See #9.
(11) Lol
(12) Lol.
(13) Lol.
(14) Agreed! Both attacks are great for an in-between stage pokemon.
(15) Stance is amazing, but Warp Point embarrasses it.
(16) ...Only it's also a Level X.
(17) It is DEFINITELY not flexible enough. An upcoming article should help to persuade otherwise, but Wager is such a pain to this deck it's not even funny.
(18) Matthew Lambou.
(19) Mario people have no SOULS!
(20) Congratulations :)
(21) Word

Cheers: not as good a TV show as Fraiser

Also, TRUK isn't a deck: it's a series of decks!

[Lawman]

Again, all you Mario haters.....please list YOUR Nats results as you rag on this "non-deck". You are the same people that rag on the quicktune players (trying to get a T2 donk), yet many of you play a Blissey deck of one version or another. Anyone can pick up a Blissey deck and play it!!!! Talk about a "simplistic" deck!! At least with Mario, if you dont donk them early, there is strategy to be used to play it correctly. That being said, we play blissey too. It is simply the BDIF right now.

Keith