KLock

[tylerG]

KLock (Kabutops-Lock)

Pokemon: 15
2x Kabuto Dp4
1x Kabuto PK
4x Kabutops Dp4
2x Mareep SW
1x Flaffy SW
2x Ampharos SW
1x Omanyte PK
2x Omastar Dp4

Trainers: 30
4x Rare Candy
4x Dome Fossil
2x Mysterious Fossil
3x Windstorm
2x Warp Point
3x Celio’s Network
2x Fossil Excavator
2x Copycat
3x Prof. Oak's Visit
2x Scott
2x Battle Frontier
1x Lake Boundary

Energy: 15
9x Fighting
4x Multi Energy
2x Scramble Energy


Strategy: KLock your opponent from using Trainers with a Kabutops active. Afterwards set up an Ampharos so you can Jam everything and later De-Evolve your opponent's benched pokemon with Omastar.
ALL rates/fixes are greatly appreciated.

[(TYranitarFReak)]

U might need a zapdos DP4 that gives u a jolty ex effect (w flip though).

I think relicanth slows u down. U have 6 fossils which is evolve-able to kabutops, so u dont need any relicanths.

POV > suzy's lottery

perhaps u'll even need some fossil excavator to help with fossils.

And, yea, u need some 2/3 windstorms somehow.

[DarthPika]

Lock this thread before anyone else thinks that this is a good combo.

[tylerG]

(TYranitarFReak): Yeah, I need to fit in the Windstorm somehow. I'll try and cut a few things.

DarthPika: I'm sorry you don't like the deck, but I would like to test it anyways.

[DarthPika]

I do think it's a good combo, and will be a HUGE pain if everyone else starts useing it.

Actually I like the idea so much that I would like to posibly use it for states if it works.

[tylerG]

Is there anything you would change about the deck?

Or was that post just sarcasm... :/

[DarthPika]

No it wasn't sarcasm, I LOVE this deck idea.

[tylerG]

I haven't gotten a chance to test this yet, but I plan to Saturday at our local.

I would greatly appreciate it if anyone could possibly test this for me (or provide predicted matchups).

[DarthPika]

Trust me, I will be testing this deck into the ground. I don't know how much info I will be able to give you though.

[tylerG]

Any info you can provide is good enough for me.

Also, I don't guess there are any scans of the Kabutops are there???

[DarthPika]

Not that I know of. If there are they wouldn't be in english.

[SuperWooper]

Originally Posted by tylerG

KLock (Kabutops-Lock)

Pokemon: 14
3x Kabuto Dp4
4x Kabutops Dp4
2x Mareep SW
1x Flaffy SW
2x Ampharos SW
1x Omanyte Dp4
2x Omastar Dp4

Trainers: 30
4x Rare Candy
4x Dome Fossil
2x Mysterious Fossil
3x Windstorm
2x Warp Point
3x Celio’s Network
2x Fossil Excavator
2x Copycat
3x Prof. Oak's Visit
2x Scott
2x Battle Frontier
1x Lake Boundary

Energy: 16
10x Fighting
4x Multi Energy
2x Scramble Energy

Your list is 61 cards.

[tylerG]

SuperWooper: I guess I missed the 15 pokes instead of 14. Thanks for the heads up.

[rerisenphoenix]

Also, Kabuto evolves from Mysterious Fossil also, not dome fossil.

[tylerG]

Kabuto evolves from Dome Fossil and Mysterious Fossil right?

[Professor Elm]

Originally Posted by rerisenphoenix

Also, Kabuto evolves from Mysterious Fossil also, not dome fossil.

NO it evolves from Dome Fossil in the new set.
Pretty off da chain, if it's fast.
No trainers, and supporters cost ya. ouch.

[rerisenphoenix]

In the card game, there is no Dome Fossil, just Mysterious.

[Hatter™]

in DP4 there is

[Professor Elm]

Originally Posted by rerisenphoenix

In the card game, there is no Dome Fossil, just Mysterious.

No, the next set is makin Dome Fossil, Helix Fossil, and Old Amber.
They are all in DP4, in Japan.
You should read about it.

[tylerG]

That means that if I start with a Mysterious Fossil, I can't evolve into a Kabuto, right?

[rerisenphoenix]

I'm sorry, I didn't know. That is really dumb, though! Now you can't use a community fossil!

[robinsjg]

I am not entirely sure what the rulings will be on these fossils when they come out but I have a feeling that you cannot evolve the Omanyte DP4 from a Mysterious Fossil since it states that it evolves from a Helix Fossil. This however will not stop you from evolving the Mysterious Fossil into Omastar DP4 using a Rare candy because there is an Omanyte that evolves from Mysterious fossil in the current format. Please tell me if I am wrong and they are playing it differently in Japan.

As for a suggestion for your deck I am thinking Phione. It can help you get the evolutions that you need out of your deck, so that you can get Ampharos and Kabutops in play earlier, once it is knocked out you can use scramble energy, you will use fewer trainers/supporters which will protect yourself from your own deck, and if someone tries to de-evolve your pokemon to get rid of the bodies it won't do them much good because you have the whole line in play. I think that I would take out any combination of the POV, Copycat, or Celio's to make room for Phione since you won't need them that much, IMO.

[tylerG]

If the Omanyte Dp4 can't evolve from the Mysterious Fossil, then I will just drop it for a Omanyte d Holon Phantoms.

[DarthPika]

I personly think that if you can do this, use Kaboto PK. That is only if it can actually evolve from Dome Fosil. We will just have to wait for a ruleing on that one.

[tylerG]

The only reason I'm using a Kabuto d from Holon Phantoms is that if I start with a Mysterious Fossil, I can still go for a turn one or two Klock since the Kabuto d can evolve from the Mysterious Fossil. If it can evolve from both MF and DF, then I will use only the Dp4 Kabuto.