Three Cards Receive Errata Before Cities

[Big Daddy Snorlax]

Magmortar LV. X, Entei, and Electivire have been the topic of much discussion regarding the wording "Energy" vs. "Energy cards". We now have our official answer from PUI.

Magmortar LV. X, Entei, and Electivire receive card errata to address "Energy" vs. "Energy cards"

Three cards recently released are receiving errata so that they will play as intended. This will have little effect on the current play environment, focusing on a nuance between Energy and Energy cards. In each case, "Energy" should refer to "Energy cards."

The cards, with their errata, are listed below.

Magmortar LV.X— Mysterious Treasures, #123
Flame Bluster
Discard 2 {Fire} Energy cards attached to Magmortar. Choose 1 of your opponent’s Pokémon. This attack does 100 damage to that Pokémon. (Don’t apply Weakness and Resistance for Benched Pokémon.) During your next turn, Magmortar can’t use Flame Bluster.

Entei— Secret Wonders, #4
Blaze Roar
Does 20 damage to 1 of your opponent’s Benched Pokémon. (Don’t apply Weakness and Resistance for Benched Pokémon.) Flip a coin. If tails, discard 2 {Fire} Energy cards attached to Entei.

Electivire— Secret Wonders, #25
Discharge
Discard all {Lightning} Energy attached to Electivire. Flip a coin for each {Lightning} Energy card you discarded. This attack does 50 damage times the number of heads.

[charmander162]

so if you discard a double rainbow for any 1 of those it only counts as 1??

[waterblast]

if you have multi energys, castforms etc on magmortar lvl x, do you need to discard anything at all??

[charmander162]

^yeah because they count as every energy at once including fire/lightning/etc.

[Big Daddy Snorlax]

Originally Posted by waterblast

if you have multi energys, castforms etc on magmortar lvl x, do you need to discard anything at all??

Yes, you are required to discard 2 Energy cards. If a special energy is providing energy of a type, it is considered a card of that type. You may be confused because it isn't is a Basic Energy card of that type, and there are some things that call for things like a Basic Energy card. In those cases a Castform or DRE would not work. It is the word "Basic" not the word "card" that excludes the Special Energies.

BDS

[ToysRUsKid]

Hardly little effect. =(

[fchangus2]

wait... you can still DRE the magmortar and discard two fires, right?

[PokeMontoya]

doesnt look like it since it states 2 fire energy CARDS DRE is one card that provides 2 fire energy but is only one card

[fchangus2]

no, what I mean is, Magmortar has already 2 Fires attached since last turn, this turn, you attach DRE to it and discard the 2 fire for Flame Buster. That still works, right?

[rhodesia123]

yes

[(TYranitarFReak)]

The 3 cards above just turned from bad to worst...

[Articjedi]

Wait, so can I still discard a dre and have it count as one fire energy card?

[Ardoptres]

Nice, you can still Scramble/DRE Electivire SW, and have it count as 2/3 Energies.. =D

[fchangus2]

I think so, but the only time you would do that is if you had 2 DREs on Magmortar; otherwise, why would you discard a DRE instead of 2 fires?

Originally Posted by Articjedi

Wait, so can I still discard a dre and have it count as one fire energy card?

Back to back posts merged. The following information has been added:

right two out of three... Magmortar will still see a lot of play, sniping for 100 and automatic poison through power is not bad and defintely not worst.

Originally Posted by (TYranitarFReak)

The 3 cards above just turned from bad to worst...

[Phazon Elite]

Originally Posted by Ardoptres

Nice, you can still Scramble/DRE Electivire SW, and have it count as 2/3 Energies.. =D

No, it only does damage for each Energy Card discarded, not for each Energy.

[dogma]

This change reduces the power-level of the cards dramatically

[Bizarro]

So the Electivire now says:

Electivire— Secret Wonders, #25
Discharge
Discard all {Lightning} Energy (where is the CARDS mention?) attached to Electivire. Flip a coin for each {Lightning} Energy CARD (here it is) you discarded. This attack does 50 damage times the number of heads.

So this means, that I can discard a DRE or Scramble on Electivire, but it will only gain me 1 coin flip - since it is a Energy CARD, right?

[taylor2007]

So If I Discard A Dre From Electivire Sw It Only Counts As One Even Though It Says Energy And Energy Cards. Would This Also Be The Same For Infernape

[Bizarro]

If it would count for Infernape, they would have released an Errata. And since Infernape says "Discard ALL Fire Energy" it wouldn't matter if you discard all Fire Energy CARDS or just all Fire Energy. All means Everything.

[Mew*]

I love it when they make cards weaker that I don't play.

[PenguinMaster]

Does that mean we won't get an errata on Electrode? =(

[PokePop]

Originally Posted by taylor2007

So If I Discard A Dre From Electivire Sw It Only Counts As One Even Though It Says Energy And Energy Cards. Would This Also Be The Same For Infernape

Right, it would only count as one card. That's what an errata is, it changes the wording of a card to correct it.

It is not the same for Infernape. It only affects those cards that it says it affects. It is not a Metarule change, it is a card errata.

Originally Posted by PenguinMaster

Does that mean we won't get an errata on Electrode? =(

This has no impact on Electrode one way or the other. That is still our for review.

[Magic_Umbreon]

Does multi start providing fire or electic energy between a double rainbow and it being discarded thus satisfying the cost or can it not be discarded due to not satisfying the cost when you declare the attack?

[~Blazi-King~]

Originally Posted by Magic_Umbreon

Does multi start providing fire or electic energy between a double rainbow and it being discarded thus satisfying the cost or can it not be discarded due to not satisfying the cost when you declare the attack?

Correct.

[shiftrymaster68]

Originally Posted by PokePop

This has no impact on Electrode one way or the other. That is still our for review.

Is there any chance that Electrode could recieve a definite ruling by this Friday?