Cherry Bomb [next famous T2 deck]

[butlerforhire]

I like Zorro.

[Sci-ZOR evolves from Scyther which can slice and dice rapidly like ZOR-ro and he looks so suave while doing it.]

The "o" at the end of Zorro could represent what your opponent says in a surprised voice mingled with a hint of disappointment when you announce "Pound Down for 70" against their lone Basic on turn 2.

[smacktack15]

Originally Posted by DubeRRy

are you a noob?? or are you out of your mind??
you called cynthia's and marley's incosistant supporter?? tell me a good one

Umm... Excuse me. I don't believe you have the right to call me a n00b. That is incredibly rude as I have done nothing n00bish or wrong towards you. I am a sane person that has no "lack in the head" either. Here is your deck...

Pokemon [15] :

4-4 Scizor [MD-SF]
3-3 Cherrim [SF]
1 Chatot [MD]


Energy [12] :

12

Supporters [14]:

4 Bebe's Search
4 Rossane's Research
1 Marley's request
2 Cynthia's feeling
3 Oak's visit

Trainer [19]:

1 Luxury ball
3 warp point
2 dawn stadium
2 night maintanance
3 poke-ball
4 poke drawer+
4 poke blower+

I find that the bolded trainers that I told you to take out are inconsistant [in this deck]. Here is exactly what I posted...

The deck seems alright but, take out Oaks, Marleys and Cynthia. Maybe add in Victory Medals. Those inconsistant supporter lines will slow you down

I gave you a complement. I gave you some helpful ideas. so why am I a n00b? I told you to take out Marleys Request as you only play 1. Add in some more because 1 trainer is inconsistant. I found Cynthais to be alright but, it needs 1-2 more in the deck. You are making it a smaller theme. Professor Oaks Visit is alright but, I find that there are better things to put in a deck, like Rare Candies. Rare Candies would be excellent in this deck but, you are amking your deck slower than a stage 2 T2 deck because it plays no Candies. My comment on Victory Medal is because I find it to be awesome in Swarm decks / T2 decks as you can draw more, waste a card, or search your deck for anything. I forgot that your deck didn't play Uxie which was the the reason for the Victory Medal comment, you should also play that in here.

You don't have to take my suggestions but, don't be rude about it. You put your deck in the Deck Help and Strategy section for a reason or, was it only for you to boast about your idea. I have no clue what was meant by this thread if I can't help without getting called a n00b.

Ryanvergel: Do not listen to this person. DO NOT DROP CYNTHIA's. DO NOT ADD VICTORY MEDALS.

That is also pretty rude and I didn't force him to use my ideas. I don't go around bashing your ideas...do I???? The answer is no.

[butlerforhire]

Originally Posted by smacktack15

My comment on Victory Medal is because I find it to be awesome in Swarm decks / T2 decks as you can draw more, waste a card, or search your deck for anything. I forgot that your deck didn't play Uxie which was the the reason for the Victory Medal comment, you should also play that in here.

Uxie would immediately render Pound Down an ineffective 40 damage attack, so it can't be played here.

[smacktack15]

It can be played but, by using its attacks to be put under the deck...a strategic plan.

[ryanvergel]

I'm not bashing your ideas, just saying that no one should listen to them because they're wrong.

Sorry, but it's true. Cynthia's is one of the most important cards in this deck, and how is POV inconsistent? It's a draw card... you suggested dropping draw supporters for victory medals, lol. That's just absurd.

This deck should play RARE CANDY? Why? No stage 2s, and you can't even attack T1 because you need 2 energy. WHY on earth would you EVER want to use rare candy here? It makes ZERO sense.

So far you've tried to tell the OP to do this:

1. Remove draw supporters for inconsistent and bad flip cards like Victory Medal.
2. You suggest adding in rare candies, which is really, really, really useless.
3. You suggest using Uxie LA, which would go against the entire strategy of the deck, and whose attack is inferior to the main attacker's 95% of the time.

These are the reasons why I told the original poster to not listen to you. Your "suggestions" are counter-productive, counter intuitive, weaken the consistency, the strategy, and don't make much sense at all. You're leading people away from improving the deck and are trying to make these ridiculous suggestions like adding in rare candy.

[ryanvergel]

Originally Posted by smacktack15

It can be played but, by using its attacks to be put under the deck...a strategic plan.

It's almost never the case that you would rather use Uxie's attack over Scizor's accelerate. 95% of the time Scizor's attack is better. Uxie is thus a horrible idea.

[DubeRRy]

@smacktack15
sorry about I called you a n00b big apologize from me.....

but really those supporters are important to the deck that runs without claydol....

they're very consistant in the game I tried with this deck... moreover I don't have a victory medal....

and nor the supporters I play is flippy... so it consistent enough in the game I tried with this deck....

once again apologize for my rudeness...

btw, new matchup coming in front page

[Alazor]

I almost would want to add some Pluspower, Team Galactic's Wager (MT)(-- for late game) or Energy Pickup (LA) or TSD (MT). You could even take out an Oak's Visit and tech in a Buck's Training (LA).

Just play around with these cards a little.... you could try taking out 1 Night Maintenance and 1 Warp Point (since you already have 4 Pokeblower).

And Chatot is not bad at all- even in a T2 deck, but I wouldn't try to play more than one usually.

[DubeRRy]

mmm plus power or buck's doesn't really effect this deck, because you have cherrim to power up scizor, about TSD, let me test it first....


since you have chatot, why you play TGW??

[Alazor]

TGW is for late game in case you fall behind. It could cripple your opponent's hand.
It's used in those situations when you know you may lose anyways.. or when a game is close it can bring it to your favor. If you play AMU, Chatot will not work too well, because of extrasensory....
they do 70 damage for 2 energy when they otherwise do 20. Another reason is you can play Team Galactic's Wager against decks that rely on Furret's Keen Eye. I'm not saying play 4 or anything, but 1 Wager could be useful late game as well.

[DubeRRy]

oh I get your point.... well... let me try it first... yeah2 you made a good point there... thx

Originally Posted by ryanvergel

Personal attacks. Now you're just making stuff up, lol. You're kind of ridiculous, man.

what's this suppose to me... I deleted that "attack"...

[MrGinerik]

Great Deck, We play a similiar build, however, MagTran or what ever it is has been a real pain. Any ideas how to get around this, there seems to be a lot in our meta.....

[Alazor]

"Great Deck, We play a similiar build, however, MagTran or what ever it is has been a real pain. Any ideas how to get around this, there seems to be a lot in our meta....."

Mmmmm... maybe Lake Boundary? Not really..... maybe try some Bubble Coat.

[DubeRRy]

Originally Posted by MrGinerik

Great Deck, We play a similiar build, however, MagTran or what ever it is has been a real pain. Any ideas how to get around this, there seems to be a lot in our meta.....

yeah weakness is always a real pain for T2 deck, buble coat is the solution, but it doesn't really ended up the problem though.... but still what choice do we have against weakness?

[Dual_Draw]

Originally Posted by MrGinerik

Great Deck, We play a similiar build, however, MagTran or what ever it is has been a real pain. Any ideas how to get around this, there seems to be a lot in our meta.....

Keep their Claydols in the discard, time a wager, it's like a 35-75 for this deck, but you can win the match up.

[VictorCSS]

why not u put in pachirisu or corsola to search ur basic pokemon faster. take out pokeballs n put in pokeradar. Try putting in Furret

[DubeRRy]

pls.. last time I said this... don't make any comment anymore about pokeballs.. the only ball that is better than pokeball is luxury ball, that's it..

add more pokemon = slower...

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any other comments?

[edwarpy]

I find hand droughts often around T4-5. Consider a 1-1 Exeggcute/Exeggutor instead of Chatot. Exeggcute with Call for Cherries and Exeggutor with Psychic Strategy. If you happen to start with Eggcute, it costs an energy and changes your play to a T3 strategy, but with the Cherry setup bonus it's not terrible. Dawn Stadium, kicking Dusknoir X to their hand, followed by Eggutor Psychic Strategy could be a strong play. If you do, play four Multi energy for the desperation Eggsplosion.

[i like burdn of a day]

Looks awesome, but i think it needs a couple quick balls or dusk balls.
I think alot of people will be using this at city's!

[Prize_Card]

Your torterra match-up is WAY WAY WAY OFF.. I play torterra, i beat this deck 7 out of 7 times if played it against my friend with your almost exact build.. Please play against a better version of torterra, mine sets up turn2 60 turn 3 sceptile..

[DubeRRy]

@prize card
are your opponent's use this deck?? I want to see your deck, may I??
because the probability for taking T2 scizor with this deck is nearly 75%, 3 out of 4
and I don't think torterra have that percentage

Ok I considered using quick ball instead of pokeball, because main problem is, flippy and most of the time the flip not goes to me

Any other suggestion?? Ok, now I accept the comment about the ball, and please give a reason for the comment about the ball

thx very much

[PokemansForGeeks]

GJ reviving this thread ;/

Anyway, the deck's main problem right now is the Gigas matchup which is nearly impossible. I teched in a 1-1-1 line of Torterra SF as a counter and its been working pretty well so far.

[DubeRRy]

like what can regigas do in the early game??

this suppose to be t2 deck, don't add more than 2 pokemon in the line

[PokemansForGeeks]

He can sac away all the damage you do as early as T2 and then start OHKO'ing all of your pokemon since the highest HP in the deck is 100. It's a basic LvX too so it's not like it's that hard to get setup, plus it has it's own energy acceleration.

You can tech in Unown E's too, but I prefer having Tort for it's power and ability to OHKO Gigas multiple times.

[DubeRRy]

oh okay, sorry about the regigas thingy just played with that deck once, realy tough so I do a major change with the deck, mess up but not total mess up

okay, sorry about that

But still I don't agree with playing torterra

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