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Old 12/03/2008, 04:19 PM   #1
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PKMN Top Design - Team Meditite Rox (See Post 61 for Debate Questions)

This is the topic for players on Team Meditite Rox for Round 4's challenge. Team and challenge will be posted here, as well as team members.
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CHALLENGE #4: ????????????????????????
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1. meditite rox (Project Lead)
2. Lucario EX
3. afstandopleren
4. honchvire
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Old 12/04/2008, 02:36 AM   #2
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wow, wait, you where offline the whole time. How could this suddenly appear?

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Supes: Your card is late and, sadly, disqualified. Sorry, score remains at 0/50.

NOW FOR CHALLENGE #4! I've been waiting for this round for quite some time. And this isn't even the hardest challenge...
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“Many people were expecting a set design to come up somewhere in this contest. This is pretty much what many people expected, except with a MAJOR twist.

In another major TCG, they take one set every three years or so and make references to the inside jokes within their TCG. For those unfamiliar, I am referring to the Un-Sets in Magic: the Gathering. Cards make references to mechanics that would be otherwise considered broken in the regular TCG or are simply created to make a joke about the inside jokes of the TCG (or jokes in general). I have provided eight links to cards below, four from the first Un-Set, four from the second:

(Look at Me, I’m the DCI)
(Jester’s Sombrero)
(Jack-in-the-Mox)
(Knight of the Hokey-Pokey)
(Duh)
(Fraction Jackson)
(Infernal Spawn of Infernal Spawn of Evil)
(Mother of Goons)

The best example in the Pokemon TCG is the Imakuni cards that, quite frankly, are simply off-the-wall in their playability and style. None of these cards have seen North American release, but you can see pictures of the cards here. Note that this is NOT an Imakuni challenge (although he may be referenced). This is an Un-Set design.

In this challenge, you will have one week to design eight cards to present to PUI in hopes of them making an UN-Set. You have two requirements for this challenge which you will see below.

However, each of you won’t be making 8 cards. If I did, I’d be grading 64 cards for this challenge. No good. In that vein, two of you have been chosen as Leaders for that challenge. Congratulations to charmander rox and meditate rox. Good luck in choosing your team’s overall mechanic. Below is the challenge proper.

[u]CHALLENGE #4: The Un-Set Challenge

You team of four competitors will design 8 cards (two a piece) to be presented to PUI to convince them to create an Un-Set.

Un-Set In-Depth:

--Un-Sets are not legal for standard play, but cards should still be balanced.
--Four of your cards must have a specific mechanic that goes across all cards. Past M:tG Un-Sets have used ˝ damage (3 ˝ / 3 ˝ creates and burn spells for 2 ˝ damage), six-sided die mechanics, and Rock-Paper-Scissors cards. The chosen mechanic should be something that would never see regular play but is not broken and is highly interesting.
--Four of your team’s cards must deal with an in-joke with the Pokémon Game in general. Past M:tG choices have been cards with all old mechanics that were horrendous (Old Fogey), giving cards the ability to attack unblocked if the opponent was wearing denim (i.e. denimwalk), and cards that make fun of the Organized Play system (See Look at Me above), as well as Magic memes (Ashnod’s Coupon).
-- TWO players will be eliminated after this challenge.
--ONE player will receive a reward after this challenge.
--There may be a guest judge for this challenge.

RUBRIC:

--The mechanic chosen by your team will be given a score (X/10). It should be unique, intriguing, and not broken.
--The cards’ in your team’s chosen mechanic will be given an overall grade of (X/20). This grade is based on 1) how the cards interact with the mechanic and 2) how they interact with each other.
--The other created cards based on inside jokes will have the following score system:

Grammar: (X/5) (Does the card used proper Pokémon and IRL grammar? Are all the tenses correct and capitalizations addressed?)

Overall Card Design: (x/15) (Does the card flow well? Are the chosen attacks or effects good for the chosen type of card or Pokemon?)

Mechanic Use: (x/15) (Did you use the chosen mechanic in a way that was 1) Effective, 2) Useful, and 3) Original? Is your card humorous without being unplayable?)

Image/Image Description and Flavor Text: (X/5) (Does the chosen Image go along with the chosen card? You may use an actual image, but you must create the image using an image editing program or have explicit permission to use someone else’s work. Does the Flavor text enhance the card in any way or does it simply exist?)

Explanation/Combos: (X/8) (Why did you design the card the way that you chose to? Why did you choose the attacks and effects you chose to? What combos exist with this card in current sets, if any?)

Other Issues: (X/3) (Was the card on time? Was the card not edited after being posted? Is this card not a duplicate of another pokémon already posted?)
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charmander rox
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Editing IS legal this time, since this is a team challenge. however, edits after the due date will disqualify BOTH of your cards.

Since this is a rather intensive challenge and will probably warrant group discussion in your separate topics (where cards are to be posted to be turned in), the due date for this set is Friday, December 19th at 11 pm EST. That gives you over two weeks to get your eight-card submission pack as pristine as possible. Good luck and we look forward to seeing your designs.

~Cardz.

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Old 12/04/2008, 06:17 PM   #3
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So...

Mr. Mime HP40 [P]
BASIC

[Poke-POWER] Mime Mime Mime
Once during your turn (before you attack), you may use this power. Mime a wall between you and your opponent. Until the end of your opponent's next turn, your opponent may not reach his or her hand across the area between your cards and your opponent's cards. You may not speak until the end of your turn.

[.] <52 Card Pickup
Throw your deck into the air, then restack them and put them back in your deck. Shuffle your deck afterwards however you like.

Picture: There is a Joker card being thrown from the viewpoint at the Mr. Mime. Mr. Mime's hands are moving quickly to seemingly block it. Mr. Mime has a jester cap.

Text: This MR. MIME can stop anything thrown at it. See the invisible wall blocking the card thrown at him? No? Too bad, it is there.

Just an idea.
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Old 12/05/2008, 03:39 AM   #4
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I like it, though it clearly is a funny card. But being able to get any card you want due to your shuffling way.............

Yungerer - - 60
Stage 1

Poke-Power: About a Boy
If you are a male, you may play yourself on the Bench as a Pokemon card. You are now Kadabra but you can't evolve or devolve. If you where to be Knocked Out, have someone call the Ambulance. If you become Active, you can use any attack from other Kadabra in play without having to pay for the attack costs. Your Retreat costs are zero.

Spooooooooooon!!!! 10x
This attack does 10 damage for each for every spoon you can bend with you mind.

Weakness: Whenever people say during an attack that Kadabra is illegal, those attacks do 10 more damage to Yungerer.
Resistance:
Retreat: :colorless

Picture: Uri Geller and Kadabra having a Spoon Bending showdown, with Uri clearly loosing.

Text:" How to bend a spoon? It's quite easy and your mind has nothing to do with it...."

This is a spur of the moment idea....
But how about discussing and choosing a subject to work with?
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Old 12/05/2008, 02:08 PM   #5
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Good idea. Some ideas...

can't use 1/2 I guess...
Trading hands?
Using cards not in your deck?
Staring contest?
Thumb War?
Must be played with your left hand?
Must be played upside down?

I like the Yungerer as a card for the second category. I'll fix up the grammar.

Yungerer LV.25 HP60 [P]
STAGE 1

[Poké-POWER] About a Boy
Once during your turn (before you attack), you may use this power. Play yourself on your Bench as a Pokémon card. You are now Kadabra but you can't evolve or devolve. If you where to be Knocked Out, have someone call an ambulance. You may use any attack from other Kadabra in play without having to pay for the attack costs. Your Retreat Cost is 0.

[P] Spooooooooooon!!!! 10x
Does 10 damage times the number of spoons you have ever bent with your mind.

Weakness: [Uri Gellar]+20
Resistance:
Retreat:

Picture: Uri Geller and Kadabra having a Spoon Bending showdown, with Uri clearly loosing.

Text:" How to bend a spoon? It's quite easy and your mind has nothing to do with it...."
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Old 12/05/2008, 02:16 PM   #6
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Some ideas:
If it's not working, why don't you smack it?
Something with flipping tails
Something with flipping heads
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Old 12/05/2008, 02:30 PM   #7
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Gimme!
Trainer

Search your deck for a Trainer card with the same name as this one and put it into your hand. If your opponent asks to see the card you chose, take one of your opponent's Prize Cards.

Since editing is allowed, I'll just post a lame first attempt for now.
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Old 12/05/2008, 02:35 PM   #8
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Tails-Flipping John
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If you flipped 3 coins from which all where tails during the turn you played this, take a Prize.
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Old 12/05/2008, 03:49 PM   #9
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Reworded:

SUPPORTER

You can play only one Supporter card each turn. When you play this card, put it next to your Active Pokémon. When your turn ends, discard this card.

As long as this card is next to your Active Pokémon, whenever you flip a coin and get tails, put 1 Tails counter on this card. When there are 3 Tails counters on this card, ???.

I don't know what it should do, but drawing a Prize Card is too good.

As far as Gimme!, it could be like this:

TRAINER
Cheat

Search your deck for a Trainer card called Cheat and put it in your hand. Do not show it to your opponent. If your opponent asks to see it, show it to your opponent. If it is Cheat,???. If it is not Cheat, your turn ends.

Like it?

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Kecleon LV.23 HP70 [C]
BASIC

[Poké-BODY] Interlocking Pattern
Whenever Kecleon would be affected by an attack, flip a coin for each Benched Kecleon you have in play. If any of them are heads, prevent all effects of that attack, including damage, done to Kecleon.

[C] Interlocking Pattern 10
If you have at least 2 Kecleon on your Bench, the Defending Pokémon is now Confused.

W:[F]+10
R:
RC:[C]

Picture: The pattern on Keckleons belly repeating in an interlocking pattern off the picture.

Flavor Text: Which one is it? No one knows. Not even KECKLEON. Why bother fighting it?

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Stadium

Old School

This card stays in play when you play it. Discard this card if another Stadium card comes into play.

As long as this card is in play, treat all Stadium cards and all Supporter cards as Trainer cards. A player may retreat his or her Pokémon more than once per turn. When a player tries to retreat a Confused Pokémon tries to retreat, that player flips a coin after paying the Retreat Cost. If tails, the Defending Pokémon is still the Active Pokémon. Treat all Poké-Powers and Poké-Bodies as Pokémon Powers instead, and all mentions of Poké-Powers and Poké-Bodies as Pokémon Powers.
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Old 12/07/2008, 12:43 PM   #10
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Ditto - :colorless - 50HP

Everything you can do, I can do better.
Whenever Ditto is your Active Pokemon, Ditto can use every attack from the Defending Pokemon without having to pay for it's attack costs, Ditto's has 20HP more then the Defending Pokemon and Ditto receives 20 less damage by attacks from the Defending Pokemon.

Weakness: Ditto
Resistance: Ditto
Retreat: Ditto
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Old 12/07/2008, 02:11 PM   #11
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^Broken. Good idea, but give it some kind of downside to make up for it.
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Old 12/07/2008, 02:18 PM   #12
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It's supposed to make fun of mechanics, broken or not. That's the whole point of this challenge.
With this card, I point out the Ditto factor. Giving it a twist and pointing out the broken potential of the card.
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Old 12/08/2008, 01:07 PM   #13
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I've always wanted to do something involving being able to use your opponents cards, energy, discard, etc. Heres my first stab at something. It looks broken at first glance, but when you realize that many high energy/high damage attacks require a decent amount of colored energy, and colorless costs usually dont exceed 2, I think it might be ok. Low HP and High retreat also help.

Tentacruel Lv X Water 110 Hp

Poké-Power: Tentacle Sweep
Once during your turn, when you play Tentacruel Lv X to Level Up one of your Pokémon, you may choose as many energy cards as you like attached to your opponents Pokémon and move them to your opponent's discard pile.

Poké-Body: Energy Tentacle
All of your Pokémon's attacks cost :colorless less for each basic energy card in your opponents discard pile.

weakness: Lightning x2
resistance:
retreat cost: :colorless :colorless

PS. Sorry I've been MIA for awhile, finals and City Championships have taken up lots of time. Plus was without a computer for Thanksgiving.
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Old 12/08/2008, 01:19 PM   #14
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..It's supposed to have a funny twist, make fun of a mechanics etc.. Not something that's unspeakably good...
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Old 12/08/2008, 01:56 PM   #15
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Only 4 of the cards have to refer to an inside joke.

Claydol LV X :fighting 100 HP

Poké-Power: Comic Power
Once during your turn before your attack, if none of your Pokémon have used any powers this turn, you may use this power. Take a coin or a die and spin it. Then tell your opponent a joke. If the coin or die stops spinning or falls out of the play area, your joke ends. If your opponent smiles or laughs at your joke, search your deck for any 4 cards and put them in your hand.

weak: :grass x2
resist:
retreat: colorless

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Dialga lv 55 :metal hp 90

:metal Time-Rewind-Revenge 10

If the Pokémon Oranized Play season is 2007-2008 AD(or CE if you are silly), you may discard as many Gardevoirs and Gallades from play as you like.

Weak: :fire x2
resist: :psychic -20
retreat: colorless

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Stadium
Random Adjust Stadium
This card stays in play when you play it. Discard this card if another Stadium card comes into play. If there is another card in play with the same name, you can't play this card.

Keep of piece of paper in the playfield with a table that contains columns for each player and rows with the headings "Heads" and "Tails." Anytime a player flips a coin, if it is treated as heads, then make a mark in that player's "Heads" column. If it is treated as tails, then make a mark in that player's "Tails" column. In between turns, if either player's "Heads" column minus "Tails" column is greater than 2, treat all coinflips for that player as heads until the end of the next player's turn. In between turns, if either player's "Tails" column minus "Heads" column is greater than 2, treat all coinflips for that player as tails until the end of the next player's turn.

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Old 12/08/2008, 05:52 PM   #16
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"The chosen mechanic should be something that would never see regular play but is not broken and is highly interesting."

Like the Random Adjust Stadium. But we currently have more than enough for the 4 make fun of it cards, and need a concept for the other 4. Maybe something like... Poke-Powers on your Pokemon that your opponent can use (during your turn or your opponent's turn, specified by card)(can't be turned off by C Crystal or anything). Anyone agree? We need something.

We should have a vote at some point to decide the 4 make fun of cards. Any more ideas should be submitted sooner than later.

Jumpluff LV.29 HP80 [G]
STAGE 2: Evolves from Skiploom

[Poké-POWER] Blown Away
Once during your opponent's turn (before your opponent attacks), if Jumpluff is your Active Pokémon, your opponent may use this Power. Your opponent leans his or her head at Jumpluff and blows on it really hard. If it and all cards attached to it move farther back then any of your Benched Pokémon, your opponent switches Jumpluff with 1 of those Benched Pokémon. This power can't be used if Jumpluff is affected by a Special Condition. The ability to use this power isn't affected by any other cards.

[G] Puff Punch 40x
Flip 2 coins. This attack does 40 damage for each heads. If neither coin is heads, the Defending Pokémon is now Confused. If both coins are heads, if your opponent uses Blown Away during his or her next turn, your opponent must do it with his or her eyes closed.
W:[R]+20
R:[F]-20
RC:

Should I change the damage for Puff Punch?

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Wailord LV.47 HP200 [W]
STAGE 1: Evolves from Wailmer

[Poké-POWER] Broadside Revenge
As often as your opponent likes during either player's turn (before that player attacks), your opponent may use this Power. Your opponent throws a damage counter onto his or her Active Pokémon. If it lands on the card, leave it there, and your opponent puts 2 damage counters on Wailord. This Power cannot be used to Knock Out a Pokémon. The ability to use this power isn't affected by any other cards.

[W][W][W][W] Water Spout 150-
Does 150 damage minus 10 damage for each damage counter on Wailord. If this attack does no damage, remove damage counters from Wailord until it only has 10 damage counters on it, and throw them at your opponent's face.

W:[L]x2
R:
RC:[C][C][C][C][C]
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Old 12/08/2008, 09:51 PM   #17
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Electrode Lv. 41 80 HP
(L) Stage 2
Evolves from Voltorb

(. ) Kaboom!
All Pokémon in play are Knocked Out (yours and your opponent's). After using this attack, you and your opponent both yell "Kaboom!" as loud as you can. If this attack results in a tie, instead of playing Sudden Death, whoever yelled louder wins.

Weakness (F)+20 Resistance (M)-20 Retreat Cost 0



Porygon-Z Lv. 32 100 HP
(C) Stage 2
Evolves from Porygon2

PokéBody Cyber Distortion
As long as Porygon-Z is in play, neither player draws a card at the beginning of his or her turn. (This would not cause either player to lose the game.)

(C)(C) Hack 50
Flip 2 coins. If both are heads, your opponent can't play any Supporter or Trainer cards during his or her next turn.

Weakness (F)+30 Resistance 0 Retreat Cost (C)

One joke card, one crazy mechanic.
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Old 12/09/2008, 04:42 AM   #18
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The Battle (Hax) Tower - Stadium

Every Pokemon in play now has the Wonder Guard Poke-Body.

:p-body: Wonder Guard
This Pokemon can only be damaged by types that it is weak to but can't have any Poke-Tools attached. Any other effects can still happen.

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Old 12/09/2008, 04:10 PM   #19
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Lucario EX: The first one is broken, if your opponent has enough Pokemon in play to let you draw all your prizes, if you make sure you don't, you always win. Bad idea.

What is the mechanic on the PorygonZ? The no drawing? That is too easy to abuse. If your opponent has no draw cards, or no hand, you can easily cinch the game. Too broken.

afstandopleren: Too broken in many cases. Pokemon without weaknesses (like, ironically, the new Shedinja) become almost unstoppable, and if it is attached with Unown G, it is INVINCIBLE. That is something we really want to avoid.

Does anyone like the powers usable by your opponent? Comments please.
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It makes fun of the Battle Tower in DP and how people love to make hacked Spiritombs for it called 'Wondertombs'. >_>
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Old 12/09/2008, 05:04 PM   #21
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Invincibility is something to be avoided in this game. Now, do you like the mechanic of powers your opponent gets to use?
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Old 12/09/2008, 05:10 PM   #22
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Yes, I do. It's very nice.

I also like Lucario EX's Porygon-Z. The draw prevention makes people depending on draw Powers and Supporters. Top Decks are no longer a factor. O_O

BTW, up for a Brawl Meditite?
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Swalot LV.38 HP90 [P]
STAGE 1: Evolves from Gulpin

[Poké-POWER] Feed Me
As often as your opponent likes during his or her turn (before he or she attacks), if there are at least 3 damage counters on Swalot, your opponent may use this Power. Your opponent removes 3 damage counters and all Special Conditions from Swalot, then you discard 1 Energy card from Swalot.

[P][C] Poison Blob 40
Flip 2 coins. If both are heads, the Defending Pokémon is now Poisoned and Confused. If 1 is heads, both the Defending Pokémon and Swalot are now Poisoned. If both are tails, Swalot is now Poisoned and Confused.

W:
R:
RC:[C][C]

Not right now. I'm going to do my homework soon. But the problem with PorygonZ is that it is too abusable. If you use Wager, your opponent has only 3-6 cards, or if you use cards like Mars, if you remove all of your opponent's search cards in his or her hand, he's doomed. And imagine how many games it could make into a draw, or last forever unless either player does a certain, almost suicidal move. If it's on the Bench, neither player has a hand, neither Active can retreat or damage the opponent, all Energies are on Benched Pokemon, what can happen? NOTHING. It would have to be edited to make less extreme. There was a card that could prevent your opponent from drawing a card if you attacked with it, which quickly got banned because anyone without search or draw cards could do absolutely nothing. If this sounds like too much, I apologize. But it is. Blah.

Could more people make cards with this concept? I don't want to be the only one making them, and we need all four cards to use the same concept.

Girafarig LV.19 HP70 [C]
BASIC

[Poké-POWER] Two heads
Once during your opponent's turn (before your opponent attacks), your opponent may use this power. Your opponent puts 1 Head marker on Girafarig. If there is already 1 Head marker on Girafarig, your opponent removes 1 Head marker from Girafarig.

[P][P] Headbutt 40
If there is 1 Head marker on Girafarig, or there are any Special Energy cards that provide more than 1 type of Energy attached to Girafarig, you may not use this attack. Flip a coin. If heads, the Defending Pokémon is now Confused.

[D][D] Bite 30+
If there are no Head marker on Girafarig, or there are any Special Energy cards that provide more than 1 type of Energy attached to Girafarig, you may not use this attack. Flip a coin. If heads, this attack does 30 damage plus 40 more damage.

W:[D]+20
R:
RC:[C]

Edit: Allowed for Special Energy cards providing only 1 type of Energy, changed to Head marker instead.
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What's a 'Head' counter?
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A counter which, if it is there, allows Girafarig to only use bite. If it is not there, it can only use Headbutt. Because the attacks need different Energy costs, if you attach a basic [P] Energy to it, you opponent could just put a Head counter on it to prevent you from using headbutt next turn. If you then attach a [D] Energy, your opponent must decide which one to let you possibly use next turn. If you run out of 1 Energy type, it can be forced to not attack. It needs either something like Energy Switch or 4 Energy attached to be fully used every turn. Does that explain it well enough?

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Shuckle LV.24 HP40 [F]
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[Poké-POWER] Ferment Juice
Once during your opponent's turn (before your opponent attacks), your opponent may use this Power. Your opponent emoves 3 damage counters from both of each player's Active Pokémon. This Power may not be used if Shuckle is affected by a Special Condition.

[Poké-BODY] Hard Shell
Reduce all damage done to Shuckle by attacks by 20 (after applying Weakness and Resistance).

[G][C] Revenge 10+
Does 10 damage plus 10 more damage for each damage counter on Shuckle.

W:[W]+10
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