Platinum Decks?

Jolteon · 01/28/2009, 05:06 PM

Drapion?
Rampardos?
Shaymin/Anything Grass?
Kingdra?
Blaziken/Heatran?
Blastoise/Delcatty?
Ampharos/Manetric?
Dustox?
Bannete?
MightTank?
Anything with Giratina?
Slaking?
Machamp?
Infernape?

What ill dominate the states?
Please Give Your Suggestion in Order!

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3- ..

darkartisan · 01/28/2009, 05:52 PM

Tort/scep is gonna win states, no doubt about it. This will most likely affect the balance of decks, because everyone will attempt to counter it with fire, thus bringing Kingdra to be more poplular.

IMO, if Tortscep is a beast, it will affect the metagame. If not, then not too many changes will be made. Only time will tell...

mevans · 01/28/2009, 06:17 PM

I think that a grass deck with torterra/sceptile/shaymin will be big.(come on 200 hp for the X!!!)
Then there is alot of hype over blastcatty soo...who knows...

headsrcool · 01/28/2009, 06:21 PM

Diagla Lv. X kills so many decks, it's not even funny.

Poke Trainer J · 01/28/2009, 06:45 PM

Yeah I hate Dialga G Lv. X, such a pain in the butt. Ampharos might be a problem as well especially in Raichu/Electivire with a possible Manectric tech to help prevent bench spread infact it could be the #1 killer of bench spread If Lightning turns out as good as Grass already is especially in Platinum. Good thing we have Machamp X and Rampardos from Platinum...

machampX · 01/28/2009, 09:13 PM

abomasnow will dominate people know how to work around all grass type decks

nnaann · 01/29/2009, 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkartisan

Tort/scep is gonna win states, no doubt about it. This will most likely affect the balance of decks, because everyone will attempt to counter it with fire, thus bringing Kingdra to be more poplular.

IMO, if Tortscep is a beast, it will affect the metagame. If not, then not too many changes will be made. Only time will tell...

Dialga G Lv X shuts down Sceptile's body

Blaziken 1111 · 01/29/2009, 03:50 AM

Terra is probaly the play. Against dialga it doesn't really matter because early game you most likely won't see it and late game if your losing then just bring it up with x and hit it and kill it in 2 shots.

**Regis_Neo** · 01/29/2009, 04:08 AM

Dialga G Lv X will definitely be annoying if it does get played en-mass, shutting off Poke-Bodies is a fairly different concept, as traditionally it's always been about killing the Poke-Powers while the Bodies were worthless (though not anymore obviously).

Regigigas, Dusknoir, Kingdra, and Torterra I think will likely be the more popular decks to go with; Gigas, Noir, and Kingdra don't care too much about Poke-Bodies anyways, while Torterra will probably struggle with it. Amphy, eh, it needs something to either spread or target specific Pokemon with damage counters for Damage Bind to work, and Amphy himself isn't exactly a big damaging Pokemon, so there could be some issues there I'd think unless a good partner comes along. Level MAX will also be pretty useful for any decks with multiple Lv Xs, as you can break the otherwise annoying rule of not being able to level up on the bench with it (though of course, you must flip Heads first).

DarC · 01/29/2009, 05:08 AM

Butterfree/Cherrim/Shaymin. It's going to be way better than the stupid turtle.

Brawler · 01/29/2009, 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarC

Butterfree/Cherrim/Shaymin. It's going to be way better than the stupid turtle.

Meet Dialga G Lv.X.

I think Gigas will win states. Huge tank, huge damage, not hurt by Dialga G, etc.

Terra's in trouble. It's slow to begin with. But by locking down Wild Growth, it shouldn't be a problem.

G Pokemon decks will be big, as they can beat the crap out of some decks.

headsrcool · 01/29/2009, 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brawler1624

Meet Dialga G Lv.X.

I think Gigas will win states. Huge tank, huge damage, not hurt by Dialga G, etc.

Terra's in trouble. It's slow to begin with. But by locking down Wild Growth, it shouldn't be a problem.

G Pokemon decks will be big, as they can beat the crap out of some decks.

Yep, but Regigigas now has to play Dialga G or else it dies. Then, by it having to play Dialga, it can be a very helpful tech vs. some decks.

**Rogue Archetype** · 01/29/2009, 07:54 AM

Shaymin giving the extra HP is SO hard to pass up...

I know I'll be a GRASS BUILDING FOOL for a month or so...

I would like to try Scizor w/ Shaymin . Don't even need the Cherrims..
Just let them drop down their Dialga (if they can get it out!) and continue to hit them for 70 regardless...

I would, also, like to try Beedrill with Shaymin and Time Space Tear..
Imagin the Basic w/ 40 more HP!

I would like to try SO MANY old grass decks and integrate the HP bump...

I guess, I too, will HAVE to at least build out Torterra and see what happens :)

BlastCatty SOUNDS like it would be good, but I'll believe it when I see it. Setting that up and getting it to run are some aspects that may dead the hype first-week out. :/

goldedda · 01/29/2009, 07:58 AM

G&G has no weakness in this format and will sonic blade torterra for to much damage

**Rogue Archetype** · 01/29/2009, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goldedda

G&G has no weakness in this format and will sonic blade torterra for to much damage

ok ... you probably should've kept that trick up your sleeve ... eh?

*calmly slips ANOTHER unown G into the Torterra Platinum proxy deck*

............... problem solved.

*ApachePrime* · 01/29/2009, 09:32 AM

Sonic Blade would still leave Torterra with 90 HP, as Sonic Blade places damage counters based on original HP. Not to mention that Garde/Gallade is weak to Toxicroak/Skuntank, with a Lake Boundary both are OHKO's.

Zangoosed · 01/29/2009, 10:30 PM

In no particular order these will be my guess on whats popular:

Kingdra
Machamp
Dusknoir
Grass decks variants with +40 HP Shaymin boost (torterra/leafeon/sceptile/scizor etc.)
Regigigas
Team Galactic G variants (Toxicroak/Skuntank, Dialga G LV. X, Mightyena/Skuntank)
Rampardos
Ampharos/Manectric
Beedrill
Blastoise/Delcatty
Magmortar variants

My guess on what will be the best choices (also in no particular order):
Kingdra
Team Galactic variants
Machamp
Regigigas

**Lucario EX** · 01/29/2009, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ApachePrime

Sonic Blade would still leave Torterra with 90 HP, as Sonic Blade places damage counters based on original HP.

No, it would count the HP boost, IIRC.

*ApachePrime* · 01/30/2009, 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucario EX

No, it would count the HP boost, IIRC.

It seems you're right. I was mis-lead a bit by something else. Sorry for the confusion.

Quote:

Q. If I use Gallade's "Sonic Blade" attack against a Pokemon with an extra +20hp due to Espeon's "Sunlight Veil" Poke-BODY, does that +20 get factored in to the number of damage counters?
A. When the +20hp is added to the Pokemon's total HP, you must take that into account when placing damage counters for Sonic Blade. The attack would leave the Pokemon with 50hp remaining, not 70hp. (May 29, 2008 PUI Rules Team)

**Rogue Archetype** · 01/30/2009, 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rogue Archetype

ok ... you probably should've kept that trick up your sleeve ... eh?

*calmly slips ANOTHER unown G into the Torterra Platinum proxy deck*

............... problem solved.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ApachePrime

Sonic Blade would still leave Torterra with 90 HP, as Sonic Blade places damage counters based on original HP. Not to mention that Garde/Gallade is weak to Toxicroak/Skuntank, with a Lake Boundary both are OHKO's.

WHUUHHh?

Unown G = NO sonic Blade...

Brady1 · 01/30/2009, 06:14 AM

G decks. :/ Besides those listed, I'd expect alot of metal decks to be tested before states but dropped due to good fire pokemon.

Snuggles_The_Pirate · 01/30/2009, 03:51 PM

I think the following decks will do well at states

G-Money.DEC
Fiesta!
Kingdra
PLOX
and a few others

FLCLFANMAN · 01/30/2009, 08:10 PM

watch out for spread (Frosslass) with a teched Ampharos/Dusknoir

Way too easy to pull off and looks effective.

Jolteon · 02/02/2009, 08:01 AM

Altaria can be efective?

Toxic · 02/02/2009, 09:05 AM

Bastiodon PT + Leftovers + Poke Healer+/Life Herb could be a really fun deck to play...

it's too bad that Dialga G ruins it.

01/29/2009, 04:08 AM	#9
Regis_Neo Forum Moderator Blog Entries: 1 Images: 24	Dialga G Lv X will definitely be annoying if it does get played en-mass, shutting off Poke-Bodies is a fairly different concept, as traditionally it's always been about killing the Poke-Powers while the Bodies were worthless (though not anymore obviously). Regigigas, Dusknoir, Kingdra, and Torterra I think will likely be the more popular decks to go with; Gigas, Noir, and Kingdra don't care too much about Poke-Bodies anyways, while Torterra will probably struggle with it. Amphy, eh, it needs something to either spread or target specific Pokemon with damage counters for Damage Bind to work, and Amphy himself isn't exactly a big damaging Pokemon, so there could be some issues there I'd think unless a good partner comes along. Level MAX will also be pretty useful for any decks with multiple Lv Xs, as you can break the otherwise annoying rule of not being able to level up on the bench with it (though of course, you must flip Heads first). __________________ Shameless self-promotion: Interested in the VGC? Want to be the best you can be? Check out my VGC Teambuilding guide here: http://pokegym.net/forums/showthread.php?t=158669

01/29/2009, 07:54 AM	#13
Rogue Archetype Moderator Contest Host Images: 20	Shaymin giving the extra HP is SO hard to pass up... I know I'll be a GRASS BUILDING FOOL for a month or so... I would like to try Scizor w/ Shaymin . Don't even need the Cherrims.. Just let them drop down their Dialga (if they can get it out!) and continue to hit them for 70 regardless... I would, also, like to try Beedrill with Shaymin and Time Space Tear.. Imagin the Basic w/ 40 more HP! I would like to try SO MANY old grass decks and integrate the HP bump... I guess, I too, will HAVE to at least build out Torterra and see what happens :) BlastCatty SOUNDS like it would be good, but I'll believe it when I see it. Setting that up and getting it to run are some aspects that may dead the hype first-week out. :/ __________________ =====> Proud PokeDad & PokeHubby <======== ~~~~Northern Neck Pokemon League Website ~~~~ Judge: Regionals, States, Cities, Battle Roads, PreReleases; League Owner @ Warsaw, VA YMCA Why Bianca?WHY?? Last edited by Rogue Archetype; 01/29/2009 at 08:00 AM.

01/29/2009, 09:32 AM	#16
ApachePrime Blog Entries: 1	Sonic Blade would still leave Torterra with 90 HP, as Sonic Blade places damage counters based on original HP. Not to mention that Garde/Gallade is weak to Toxicroak/Skuntank, with a Lake Boundary both are OHKO's. __________________ Co-Founder of Team Upset (cuz we're losin). Judge: FL Battle Roads '08-'13, FL CC's '08-'13, GA States '09, FL States '09 '10 '11 and '13.

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01/28/2009, 05:06 PM	#1
Jolteon	Platinum Decks? Drapion? Rampardos? Shaymin/Anything Grass? Kingdra? Blaziken/Heatran? Blastoise/Delcatty? Ampharos/Manetric? Dustox? Bannete? MightTank? Anything with Giratina? Slaking? Machamp? Infernape? What ill dominate the states? Please Give Your Suggestion in Order! 1- 2- 3- ..

01/28/2009, 05:52 PM	#2
darkartisan	Tort/scep is gonna win states, no doubt about it. This will most likely affect the balance of decks, because everyone will attempt to counter it with fire, thus bringing Kingdra to be more poplular. IMO, if Tortscep is a beast, it will affect the metagame. If not, then not too many changes will be made. Only time will tell...

01/28/2009, 06:17 PM	#3
mevans	I think that a grass deck with torterra/sceptile/shaymin will be big.(come on 200 hp for the X!!!) Then there is alot of hype over blastcatty soo...who knows... __________________ team next level--watch out for us!!

01/28/2009, 06:45 PM	#5
Poke Trainer J	Yeah I hate Dialga G Lv. X, such a pain in the butt. Ampharos might be a problem as well especially in Raichu/Electivire with a possible Manectric tech to help prevent bench spread infact it could be the #1 killer of bench spread If Lightning turns out as good as Grass already is especially in Platinum. Good thing we have Machamp X and Rampardos from Platinum...

01/28/2009, 09:13 PM	#6
machampX Images: 9	abomasnow will dominate people know how to work around all grass type decks

01/29/2009, 03:50 AM	#8
Blaziken 1111 Images: 22	Terra is probaly the play. Against dialga it doesn't really matter because early game you most likely won't see it and late game if your losing then just bring it up with x and hit it and kill it in 2 shots.

01/29/2009, 05:08 AM	#10
DarC	Butterfree/Cherrim/Shaymin. It's going to be way better than the stupid turtle. __________________ My List PokeTropes!

01/29/2009, 10:30 PM	#17
Zangoosed	In no particular order these will be my guess on whats popular: Kingdra Machamp Dusknoir Grass decks variants with +40 HP Shaymin boost (torterra/leafeon/sceptile/scizor etc.) Regigigas Team Galactic G variants (Toxicroak/Skuntank, Dialga G LV. X, Mightyena/Skuntank) Rampardos Ampharos/Manectric Beedrill Blastoise/Delcatty Magmortar variants My guess on what will be the best choices (also in no particular order): Kingdra Team Galactic variants Machamp Regigigas __________________ People take this game too seriously

01/30/2009, 06:14 AM	#21
Brady1	G decks. :/ Besides those listed, I'd expect alot of metal decks to be tested before states but dropped due to good fire pokemon.

01/30/2009, 03:51 PM	#22
Snuggles_The_Pirate	I think the following decks will do well at states G-Money.DEC Fiesta! Kingdra PLOX and a few others __________________ BBC.DEC

01/30/2009, 08:10 PM	#23
FLCLFANMAN	watch out for spread (Frosslass) with a teched Ampharos/Dusknoir Way too easy to pull off and looks effective.

02/02/2009, 09:05 AM	#25
Toxic	Bastiodon PT + Leftovers + Poke Healer+/Life Herb could be a really fun deck to play... it's too bad that Dialga G ruins it.