Nationals Deck. Please Help!!

ShayminPower · 04/27/2009, 09:45 AM

The list:

Pokemon =15
2-2 Shaymin Lv X
2-2-2 Beautifly Pt
2 Turtwig GL
3 Budew SF

Trainer =28
3 Looker's
1 Cynthia's
2 TM-1
2 Pokemon Rescue
2 Candys
2 Marley's
1 Energy Gain
2 Buck's
4 Bebe's
2 Rosseane's
2 Warpoint
1 Dawn Stadium
1 SnowPoint

Energy =15
12 Grass
3 Call

Strategy:
To use the budews as starters to draw any one card, Uxie to set up, and when I get shaymin in bench and beautifly as my active, use "colorfull powder", free retreat and use "damage aid" to doa 70 damage for 2 energy. The turwig I used because of his super 130 HP when shaymin is in bench, but may be I will replace it for leafeon RR or something (as with energy gain because I can only use it with turtwig)

Any other suggestions or ideas...

vegitalian · 04/27/2009, 09:59 AM

You can't use a 3-2 Shaymin line - I would recommend cutting it to 3-1. Also, which Shaymin is it?

The trainer line seems too clunky. It needs more speed.

-3 Looker's
-1 Shaymin X
-2 Pokemon Rescue
-2 Marley's
-2 Buck's
-2 TM-1

+1 Night Maintenance
+4 Poke Drawer+
+2 Volkner's Philosophy
+4 Pokedex
+1 Roseanne's Research

ShayminPower · 04/27/2009, 12:55 PM

sorry I write it wrong I want to write 2-2. Updated*
So, the changes... I'm agree with the:
-2 buck
-2 marley
+4 drawer
- rescue
+rosseane
But I prefer to keep TM-1 and quit candys and, can you explain me why to have only 2-1 shaymin?

vegitalian · 04/27/2009, 01:07 PM

I said 3-1 Shaymin. You can throw a Premier Ball in if you're worried about him being KO'd. Though Night Maintenance will solve that problem and more. Every deck should have a way of getting cards from the discard pile; whether that's Night Maintenance or TSD (Pokemon Rescue is bad in comparison to both).

For consistency, I would recommend Pokedex over Poke Drawer; though you really should have 4 of each in this deck to get everything out IMO.

Also, Volkner's gives you good recovery; whereas Looker's in this deck is quite random.

When you get the trainer line settled, I would recommend testing different options with different Pokemon. There is better setup than Budew, and Turtwig doesn't really have synergy with the deck.

ShayminPower · 04/27/2009, 01:52 PM

But I don't want to have X to prevent of KO I want it for my grass pokemon and what setup do you want?

Mamoswine42 · 04/27/2009, 05:53 PM

here's what i'd do

-2 turtwig gl
-3 budew
-2 marley's
-1 energy gain
-2 tm-1
-2 pokemon rescue
-2 buck's
-3 looker's

+2-1-2 sceptile ge
+1 call energy
+2 roseanne's
+4 poke drawer +
+2 night maintenence
+1 cynthia's
+ 2 Rare Candy

this will help you a lot more with consistency and speed

konopacz · 04/27/2009, 05:55 PM

You need GE sceptile. And Marly's??? I'm not really sure of what your idea is here.

calisupra2nr · 04/27/2009, 09:40 PM

First thing to solve in this is the drawing engine and power. If this is for nats, it is a must for uxie or claydol.

Red Haired Shanks · 04/27/2009, 10:37 PM

Your trainer line is pretty messy. Also the Pokemon line.

4 Rare Candy, 3-1-3 or 4-2-4 Beautifly. Poke-Drawer+ can help.

i like burdn of a day · 04/28/2009, 06:09 AM

make it 4-2-4 Fly with 1 Dustox. also, maybe 2 Level Maxs would be a good idea.

ShayminPower · 04/28/2009, 07:12 AM

Okay, thanks a lot for this ;)

04/27/2009, 01:07 PM	#4
vegitalian Images: 8	I said 3-1 Shaymin. You can throw a Premier Ball in if you're worried about him being KO'd. Though Night Maintenance will solve that problem and more. Every deck should have a way of getting cards from the discard pile; whether that's Night Maintenance or TSD (Pokemon Rescue is bad in comparison to both). For consistency, I would recommend Pokedex over Poke Drawer; though you really should have 4 of each in this deck to get everything out IMO. Also, Volkner's gives you good recovery; whereas Looker's in this deck is quite random. When you get the trainer line settled, I would recommend testing different options with different Pokemon. There is better setup than Budew, and Turtwig doesn't really have synergy with the deck. __________________ 1st place Ohio States 2011 Canadian Nationals: T32 2010, 2nd 2011, T32 2012 Eastern Canada Regionals: 1st 2010, 2nd 2011 -Indiana Regionals: T32 Fall 2011 Ontario Provincials: 2nd 2009, 5th 2011, 5th 2012, 1st 2013 Proud PokéMazda3 Owner, Starving College Pokéstudent, and an ethical *Oddish*atarian

04/28/2009, 06:09 AM	#10
i like burdn of a day Images: 3	make it 4-2-4 Fly with 1 Dustox. also, maybe 2 Level Maxs would be a good idea. __________________ Instagram and Twitter: @lukeriverr Vanguard, Pokemon, and Kaijudo

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04/27/2009, 09:45 AM	#1
ShayminPower	Nationals Deck. Please Help!! The list: Pokemon =15 2-2 Shaymin Lv X 2-2-2 Beautifly Pt 2 Turtwig GL 3 Budew SF Trainer =28 3 Looker's 1 Cynthia's 2 TM-1 2 Pokemon Rescue 2 Candys 2 Marley's 1 Energy Gain 2 Buck's 4 Bebe's 2 Rosseane's 2 Warpoint 1 Dawn Stadium 1 SnowPoint Energy =15 12 Grass 3 Call Strategy: To use the budews as starters to draw any one card, Uxie to set up, and when I get shaymin in bench and beautifly as my active, use "colorfull powder", free retreat and use "damage aid" to doa 70 damage for 2 energy. The turwig I used because of his super 130 HP when shaymin is in bench, but may be I will replace it for leafeon RR or something (as with energy gain because I can only use it with turtwig) Any other suggestions or ideas... Last edited by ShayminPower; 04/27/2009 at 04:51 PM.

04/27/2009, 09:59 AM	#2
vegitalian Images: 8	You can't use a 3-2 Shaymin line - I would recommend cutting it to 3-1. Also, which Shaymin is it? The trainer line seems too clunky. It needs more speed. -3 Looker's -1 Shaymin X -2 Pokemon Rescue -2 Marley's -2 Buck's -2 TM-1 +1 Night Maintenance +4 Poke Drawer+ +2 Volkner's Philosophy +4 Pokedex +1 Roseanne's Research

04/27/2009, 12:55 PM	#3
ShayminPower	sorry I write it wrong I want to write 2-2. Updated* So, the changes... I'm agree with the: -2 buck -2 marley +4 drawer - rescue +rosseane But I prefer to keep TM-1 and quit candys and, can you explain me why to have only 2-1 shaymin?

04/27/2009, 01:52 PM	#5
ShayminPower	But I don't want to have X to prevent of KO I want it for my grass pokemon and what setup do you want?

04/27/2009, 05:53 PM	#6
Mamoswine42	here's what i'd do -2 turtwig gl -3 budew -2 marley's -1 energy gain -2 tm-1 -2 pokemon rescue -2 buck's -3 looker's +2-1-2 sceptile ge +1 call energy +2 roseanne's +4 poke drawer + +2 night maintenence +1 cynthia's + 2 Rare Candy this will help you a lot more with consistency and speed __________________ Proud Member Of TEAM SPREAD Currently Running- PGX w/Techs

04/27/2009, 09:40 PM	#8
calisupra2nr	First thing to solve in this is the drawing engine and power. If this is for nats, it is a must for uxie or claydol. __________________ The Ohio State University Trades: http://pokegym.net/forums/showthread...60#post2098860

04/27/2009, 10:37 PM	#9
Red Haired Shanks Blog Entries: 1 Images: 5	Your trainer line is pretty messy. Also the Pokemon line. 4 Rare Candy, 3-1-3 or 4-2-4 Beautifly. Poke-Drawer+ can help.

04/28/2009, 07:12 AM	#11
ShayminPower	Okay, thanks a lot for this ;) Last edited by ShayminPower; 04/29/2009 at 06:12 PM. Reason: Doublepost Eliminator