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Topic: the dragon's back! and he needs a hand...
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Rickdraco
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posted April 16, 2002 12:21 PM
Hey guys, yep this crazy brit's back, with his signiature deck.. Only problem is, I kinda need a hand against my best mate, he's got a nasty Psychic deck that keeps taking me out.. dratted sab's 'kazam/Revelation 'dactyl combo.
My deck is a fairly simple Gyrados/Starmie beatdown (Using base set cards) So, any help would be appreciated...
Pokemon
4 Magikarp (TR)
4 Gyarados (Base)
4 staryu (NR)
4 starmie (Base)
4 Elekid (NG)
Trainers
4 CPU search
4 Oak
4 bill
4 NGR
2 lass
2 g. berry
energy
16 water
4 fhe
well, that's the deck, any help is appreciated.. Notew that i do like to play a blitzkrieg style where possible, hit em hard, and hit 'em fast.
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slowdad
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posted April 16, 2002 02:46 PM
I don't know which half of the deck contains your signature, I guess the dragon part. If you are not using Blastoise, I think Seel/Dewgong is more solid, faster, and more flexible in its attacks. Also, if those FHE become DCE you can add a few colorless guys with status to give your friend a hard time (Lickitung, perhaps). The other way to get more status into your deck is to choose some W types like Lapras (F) or Quilfish which can also mess up S Alakazam with enduring status like poison or confusion.
I hate to mess with Pokemon in people's signature decks, but really Starmie (B) is hardly a beat-down guy with just a 20 attack and 60 HP. How about M Poliwag/Poliwhirl instead? If you have some faster starters you could change a couple of Elekids to Pichus and really give your friend a hard time.
You could thin down your Pokemon a bit and toss a few NGR and Bill for GOW, Item Finder, and Switch.
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TheGame8813
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posted April 16, 2002 07:14 PM
ish needs help(lets make it a core storm starmie deck)
Pokemon 15:
4 Staryu(NR)
4 Starmie(NR)
3 Cleffa
2 Pichu
2 MP Mewtwo
Energy 15:
3 Recycle
12 Psy
Trainers 30:
4 PC Search
4 Oak
3 NGR
3 Narrow Gym
3 IF
3 Gold Berry
2 Switch
4 SER
3 Lass
2 RSA
1 Energy Flow
ok there..basically focuses on NR starmie to take everything out
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scyther428
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posted April 17, 2002 05:18 PM
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Originally posted by slowdad:
I don't know which half of the deck contains your signature, I guess the dragon part. If you are not using Blastoise, I think Seel/Dewgong is more solid, faster, and more flexible in its attacks. Also, if those FHE become DCE you can add a few colorless guys with status to give your friend a hard time (Lickitung, perhaps). The other way to get more status into your deck is to choose some W types like Lapras (F) or Quilfish which can also mess up S Alakazam with enduring status like poison or confusion.
I hate to mess with Pokemon in people's signature decks, but really Starmie (B) is hardly a beat-down guy with just a 20 attack and 60 HP. How about M Poliwag/Poliwhirl instead? If you have some faster starters you could change a couple of Elekids to Pichus and really give your friend a hard time.
You could thin down your Pokemon a bit and toss a few NGR and Bill for GOW, Item Finder, and Switch.
Actually Dewgong's not that good anymore because of that Rocket's Zapdos.
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TheGame8813
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posted April 17, 2002 07:28 PM
nothing is good anymore becuz are r zappy ![[Dubious]](graemlins/dubious.gif) ..in my fix u might wanna drop 1 narrow gym for 1 chaos gym
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slowdad
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posted April 17, 2002 11:43 PM
Yes, Scyther428, it's true that W decks will suffer greatly at the hands of just about any L deck, because of weakness. You don't need R Zapdos to take out Dewgong, just Voltorb (TR) with 1L will do just as well. But just how well do you think Magikarp (TR) will fare in the same spot? Most L decks carry a couple of Scythers as a Bodyguard against L resistant F Pokemon (which are weak to G). How would Gyarados like to hear "Swords Dance"?
Pokemon is a crazy game in which every villain must look over his own shoulder all the time. Do people not play R Zapdos because there are a lot of Clefables out there? No, they try to deal with it and go on. My deck fix contains W Pokemon with weakness to 2 different colors, which unfortunately both occur in nearly every L deck. Babies slow R Zapdos down a lot, and make him just a tad less appealing now than when he was fresh out of the booster. Wooper (not included) can stall against even Scyther.
If the weakness/resistance problem could be solved once and for all, the game of Pokemon would have died long ago. Instead, let us put aside our fear of doom and go forward with courage and excitement to explore every corner of this great game!
From: Watsonville CA | Registered: Feb 2002
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Rickdraco
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posted April 18, 2002 04:02 AM
Well, Thanks guys! It's great to get a response to my first post in so long!
Now, on to the details of your fixes,
Slowdad:
Interesting, and true, a starmie is not normally a beatdown pokemon, but when coupled with the Gyarados for the primary hitter, it is functional due to it also hitting with status. Unfortunately I don't actually have any Pichu at the moment, or I would love to put them in, from what I hear, they would murder my bets friends deck due to his reliance on pokepowers. I can't really afford to lose the NGR's or the bills, because I need to get as many of my pokemon out as quickly as possible, so that I can get my evolutions in play. Now, the main reason I prefer to use Gyarados to Dewgong is the HP and weakness, 100hp and weak to grass instead of electric helps!
Thegame:
Hmm.. This fix I like, though I see it as being a very long way removed from my original deck. One question though, what does NR Starmie do? I don't have any of that card yet.
I'm also unfortunately Cleffa-less, a situation I want to rectify.
Now here's the first modification I have actually made, and it does seem to help a little.
-1 Bill
-1 Elekid
-1 Starmie
-1 NGR
+4 Goop Gas Attack
Now, I do want to find a suitable way to get in a couple of Chaos Gym, without losing the Gyarados, or too much of my card drawing/deck hunting capability.. I am also considering taking the risk of replacing the CPU search with Rocket's Secret Experiment, but it is a big risk if I do so..
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slowdad
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posted April 18, 2002 12:59 PM
OK, Rickdraco, we'll stick with Gyarados. I would then recommend that you switch all of your Magikarps to the Base one with the Flail attack. If your friend uses NR Aerodactyl's PP to Life Drain you, Flail him back (for only 1W!) for the KO on S Alakazam. TR Magikarp's Rapid Evolution attack is way too expensive to ever see use without Blastoise.
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