Author Topic: Tidal Surge (I HAVE gone crazy) Gymbo Member # 30832 posted June 27, 2002 12:23 PM             Hey all, yea I know I don't post much. I don't post much anywhere, but in case you did care, I have been really busy with my job (saving money for Origins after all). Anyways, I am still not ready to release the deck I have been working on, but just to show that I haven't died, etc, here's something I just thought of last night. It's based off of Mega and Metalhead's Steelix/Mantine (VERY good deck btw). Anyways, enough talk, here's the deck: Twisted Gymbo Modfied Format² Pokemon: 19 3 Onix (SI) 3 Steelix 3 Tentacool 3 Tentacruel 3 Mantine (Destiny) 3 Cleffa 1 Tyrogue Energy: 16 11 Water 4 Metal 1 Rainbow Trainers: 25 4 Professor Elm 4 Pokemon Trader 4 Bill 4 Gold Berry 3 Double Gust 3 Balloon Berry 2 Pokemon Tower 1 Time Capsule Strategy: Alright you can stop scratching your head now, I am not crazy. This is a simple Steelix beatdown deck, however, I just introduced to it some strange support. Mantine is there for a very obvious reason, to kill Fire quickly. Now, why am I using Tentacruel?! Ok, well, even though I crush Kingdra, Tentacruel can Poison them, then you play my tecH Stadium, retreat for Steelix and finish them. The status factor becomes a tool to use whenever I want. Instapoison and/or poss confusion for cheap energy costs is great, making it useable throughout the game. Powering up Mantine or Tentacruel isn't hard, as each require only WW. Ok, so I have: Steelix which is a beatdown on a stick by itself. Then my crazy Water support in Mantine and Tentacruel swarms. Further testing and more developed strategy using Tentacruel: The idea is to play Pokemon Tower, then Poison a Kingdra if they are powering up to Twister. This presents them with a problem. They cannot use the Recycles with Tower in play. And if they Twister, they have a 25% chance of failure and they remain poisoned. Now, Tower also presents them with the problem of Pokemon Centering as well, and even then, they stay Poisoned. Now if they attach and retreat off the Poison, they have wasted a turn. And I can retreat Tentacruel for free. Tentacruel's status ability is vital to this deck versus other threats such as Kingdra and other Steelix decks. Tentacruel swarms are important late game when the opponent has exhausted all of their Double Gusts. The objective of this deck is simple. Use swarm tactics to use your support Pokemon (Mantine and Tentacruel) to the best of their abilities. Fast support is always good anyways. With this deck you have plenty of options to use. You have beatdown with Steelix. You have Status with Tentacruel. You have swarm/early damage with Mantine. Cruel and Mantine dissect Fire second turn. Mantine doesn't even need to evolve. This is quite possibly my favorite MMF deck I've seen. Why? First cause it's my own version. But seriously, I have so many different options to use, so I am not struggling with Energy problems or speed. Well, whaddya guys think? -------------------- =Pokemon Professor Jim Ferrell= *AKA The Publically Acclaimed and Talented Deck Mechanic Gymbo* *Accomplished Rogue Player* *Second Place Finisher at the Ohio SBZ '03* *Creator of Espeon Decks* *Innovator of Expedition Feraligatr* *Current Project: Skyridge Analysis* DCI: 2032 AIM: XGymbo01X "Victory goes to the player who makes the next-to-last mistake." From: Akron, OH, USA | Registered: Jul 2001  |  IP: Logged ClOuDed229 Member Member # 91371 posted June 27, 2002 04:49 PM            Well you may want to consider takink out 1 Mantine and adding in another Tyrouge. Also you could take out 1 Tentacruel and add another Onix. Consider adding a few shining Steelix to this deck by taking out the Tentacool, Tentacruel combo. -------------------- "I lost but it's a strange feeling. I'm not angry I'm happy. Happy that I witnessed the rise of a great new Champion!"-Champion Lance Placed 11th in the Slc Gym Challenge. Current Silver Team:Lugia L.100 Charizard L.100 Mewtwo L.75 Scizor L.43 Tyranitar L.66 Blissy L.53 From: Florida | Registered: Jun 2002  |  IP: Logged ClOuDed229 Member Member # 91371 posted June 27, 2002 04:51 PM            Also consider taking out the Time Capsule and adding in another Rainbow Energy. They can be very helpful at sticky times. -------------------- "I lost but it's a strange feeling. I'm not angry I'm happy. Happy that I witnessed the rise of a great new Champion!"-Champion Lance Placed 11th in the Slc Gym Challenge. Current Silver Team:Lugia L.100 Charizard L.100 Mewtwo L.75 Scizor L.43 Tyranitar L.66 Blissy L.53 From: Florida | Registered: Jun 2002  |  IP: Logged ClOuDed229 Member Member # 91371 posted June 27, 2002 04:53 PM            Also if your going to add those Shining Stellix you'll need some Fighting Energy. Hope you like my suggestions! -------------------- "I lost but it's a strange feeling. I'm not angry I'm happy. Happy that I witnessed the rise of a great new Champion!"-Champion Lance Placed 11th in the Slc Gym Challenge. Current Silver Team:Lugia L.100 Charizard L.100 Mewtwo L.75 Scizor L.43 Tyranitar L.66 Blissy L.53 From: Florida | Registered: Jun 2002  |  IP: Logged Rocket's Sandshrew Member # 56166 posted June 27, 2002 05:59 PM             Clouded: Why not just make them all one post? Gymbo: It looks fun, but why play tentacruel? It doesn't hurt steelix that badly, as every MMF steelix I've seen so far plays Double Gust AND either FHE or Baloon berry (or both.) I see what he's supposed to do here, but wow...there's got to be something better than tentacruel. Maybe try quilfish in here instead. He can poison too. (And he's flippy, but he's also a basic.) So my fix is: - The Tentacruel Line + A couple of Quilfish + Flips + Deck Space -------------------- What? They banned slowking? Good Job. :) From: Dancing on NG Gatr's Grave... | Registered: Jan 2002  |  IP: Logged ukpokemonpro Member # 518 posted June 28, 2002 01:07 AM             Mmmm.. I would add wooper and take out mantine... also to kill fire why not use quagsire and add some fighting energy? -------------------- ukpokemonpro "a meaningless title is just that ... meaningless" "London Super Battlezone 2003" quote the judge... 'only joking' on misreported match results: DQ Yep its that serious! 14,000 deck boxes yeah we'll take all of them .... what have I done! Find the Pokemon League and Tournaments in Kent at:The Gamers Guild From: Gillingham, Kent, UK | Registered: Feb 2001  |  IP: Logged ShuckleGod Member # 15488 posted June 28, 2002 12:41 PM             HEY! You stole my Tentacruel deck! well sort of, lol. Looks almost the same as mine, except I played quag. Looks cool, I dunno if I trust steelix at all in MMF, with all the fire and all. Well, GL with it. May the Mantines be with you. -------------------- Another proud member of York Comics league, Parma, OH. List of Bizarre Rogue decks played in DCI tournies (tourney record): -Alakazam/Steelix (7-0) (7/27/02) (1st place) -Ampharos (3-2) (7/20/02) (10th place) -Mew/Electabuzz (3-3) (7/13/02) (5th place) -Ampharos (2-2-1) (7/6/02 Origins) -Nidoking (2-3) (6/29/02) (8th place) -Light Jolteon (3-3) (6/22/02) (8th place) -Pidgeot (5-3) (6/15/02) (3rd place) AIM: ShuckleGod DCI: 1856 (7/17/02) ~Show your true skill. Be Unique. From: Broadview Hts. Ohio (about 20 mins. from York) | Registered: Apr 2001  |  IP: Logged

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