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haymaker
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posted April 25, 2002 11:03 AM      Profile for haymaker   Email haymaker    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
I'm tweaking this deck for a month or something and now I want to hear your oppinion and fixes.

Here it goes:
Pokemon 22)
4 Oddish
3 Dk. Gloom
3 Dk. Vileplume(Non-holo)
3 Grimer
3 Dk. Muk
3 Murkrow
3 Cleffa

Trainer: (21)
4 Elm
2 secret Mision
4 Bosses' Way
3 Focus Band
3 Rocket's Hideout
2 nightly garbage run
3 double gust

Energy: (17)
4 Dark
3 FHE
10 Grass

First don't add misty's wrath cause I can't trade them.
the strategie:
just use dark muk and murkrow to attack and when you're set up play down dark vileplume the full heal energy are very needed because if you flip tails on dark glooms power or against some other things.
Massive lock:
when your opponent has a unown on his bench(other than unown D)you use a double gust when your dark gloom is active(don't use another active because your opponent always choose this one), play dark vileplume down and then use mean look, almost always your opponent draws because he can't do anything.

When I first build this deck I used 4 secret mision but when I needed a card like rocket's hideout just before i evolved into dark vileplume I discarded way to many cards and most times I didn't get the card so I'm now using only 2 of them

edit: tnx sigmatic I tought that unown D affect the damage and I also removed that part

[ April 25, 2002, 12:12 PM: Message edited by: haymaker ]

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posted April 25, 2002 12:09 PM      Profile for Sigmatic      Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
First of all, your making a mistake with Unown D. Murkrow's feint attack says: this attack's DAMAGE isn't affected by weakness, resistence or ANY other affects (including POKEMON POWERS like unown d's power) on the DEFENDING pokemon. So if you've locked unown D, you can still use feint attack [Big Grin]

Then, I said it before and I do it again. ADD PICHU. Your deck is SO weak against igglybuff...

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posted April 25, 2002 12:13 PM      Profile for Master of Scizor   Email Master of Scizor    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
hate to tell u but ur wrong Sigmatic u can still use feint attack but u can only hit the unownd or if its on the bench the active

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posted April 26, 2002 04:05 AM      Profile for haymaker   Email haymaker    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
yes I looked it up a the compendium but why can you only hit the active one, I want to know that to explaint when playing
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posted April 26, 2002 09:01 AM      Profile for IPGeek21   Email IPGeek21    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
YOu can only HIT the active because Feint attack IGNORES effects ONLY on the active pokemon.

Example:
If A steelex with 3 steel energy is in the active position, Murkrow can Feint attack it for 20-30-40, depending how many darks are attached to it.

BUT
IF steelix is on the bench with 3 steel IT CANNOT be damaged by feint attack because THE EFFECT of steel WORKS while steelix is on the bench. IT SAYS so in the text.

PS
I would increase your drawing power:
4 Good manners
3 MasterBAlls
3 Boss Way
2 NGR
MAYBE wraths... but I did not run Wraths...
I did not use Double Gusts nor focus bands... MY whole goal was to GET a 3rd turn Dark Vile & it worked!!

PS but how do you deal with an opposing iggly?
I play pichu in slowking, I HAVE never tried it in Dark Vile.

[ April 26, 2002, 03:52 PM: Message edited by: IPGeek21 ]

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posted April 26, 2002 10:52 AM      Profile for Aipom's_Bum   Email Aipom's_Bum    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
You should lose the Dark Muk and put in some other backup attacker that can take out Crobat... MP Mewtwo works.

Dark Vileplume is already complicated enough without Dark Muk. (If you play it right, yes, it should be very complicated)

Your trainers need help too.

Elms, Masterballs, Boss's Way and Good Manners.

[ April 26, 2002, 10:54 AM: Message edited by: Aipom's_Bum ]

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posted April 27, 2002 09:57 AM      Profile for haymaker   Email haymaker    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Why should I drop the dark muk line?
With a rocket's hideout locked by dark vileplume it's a very good attacker esspecialy with some darkness energies

Ipgeek21, Ok about the draw power but shouldn't be rocket's hideout also in there, can anyone give an idea how the trainers must be exactly?

thanks for the replies

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