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Topic: Unpenetrable K'tops *Team Rocket & Up*
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scyther428
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posted May 24, 2003 05:41 PM
Pokemon:17
4x Kabuto(ND)
4x Kabutops(2 ND, 2 Sky)
2x Onix(uhhh...i think its from NG)
2x Steelix(NG)
2x Cleffa(NG)
2x Elekid(NG)
1x Magby(NG)
Energy:14
6x Fighting
4x Metal
4x Recycle
Trainers:29
4x Focus Band
4x Double Gust
4x Fossil(2 Mysterious Fossil/2 Fossil Egg)
3x Copycat/Oak's Research
3x Elm
3x Gold Berry
3x Energy Stadium
2x Town Volunteers
2x Pokemon Breeder's Field
1x Trash Exchange
Strategy:
1. Kabutops(Sky) ruins everything for opponent...hehe...attack could be 0-50-100, very good.
2. Kabutops(ND) is used for desperate measures, like when I need to hit for a 80-120 damage to opponent.
3. Steelix(NG) protects the Kabutops(u go STEELIX!)
4. Energy Stadium is for energies(duh!), as you can see my deck has very little fighting energies.
5. Trash Exchange is to get back anything from discard pile into deck such as Metal, Elm, Copycat and stuff, and yes, it is still playable at my place.
Please fix this deck 8)
Edited: Sorry but your deck is not in the Modified Format. It may be legal where you play but MF means only certain cards can be played in it so i've changed your topic title so people will not get confused.
[ May 27, 2003, 04:45 AM: Message edited by: WizPog_BJJ ]
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Scyther is fast, but not as fast as Scizor.
Scyther is strong, but not as strong as Scizor.
Scyther has a few attacks, but Scizor has more attacks.
Scyther is a Grass Pokemon, Scizor is not(HAHAHA!!!)
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Prime
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posted May 24, 2003 05:57 PM
Just if you didn't know, MTM has ruled a correction of thursday's ruling on Skyridge Kabutops. It does NOT stop you or your opponent from laying basics down on the bench.
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"Do not follow where the path may lead. Go instead where there is no path and leave a trail." ~ Ralph Waldo Emerson
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SlimeyGrimey
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posted May 24, 2003 07:19 PM
Trash exchange is illegal
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Grimers will eventually clog the path to my brain and take over my body.
Grimer, how many times do I have to tell you mud pies don't actually have mud in them, so they're not going to help you evolve into Muk!
Dogbertland will have thrilling rides like "the wedgie" and I'll have a maze in front of the restrooms.-Dogbert
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scyther428
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posted May 25, 2003 06:15 AM
quote:
Originally posted by SlimeyGrimey:
Trash exchange is illegal
I told you at my place, it is still legal.
And I don't really care if Kabutops(sky) lets your opponent puts down a basic or not, it is about the evolving part.
Note: Please help me to fix this deck, not criticize it.
[ May 25, 2003, 06:19 AM: Message edited by: scyther428 ]
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Scyther is fast, but not as fast as Scizor.
Scyther is strong, but not as strong as Scizor.
Scyther has a few attacks, but Scizor has more attacks.
Scyther is a Grass Pokemon, Scizor is not(HAHAHA!!!)
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Prime
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posted May 25, 2003 08:55 AM
Both of us didn't critize your deck, we just pointed out stuff that you might not know.
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"Do not follow where the path may lead. Go instead where there is no path and leave a trail." ~ Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Wizpog_Sensei
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posted May 25, 2003 09:09 AM
They were only trying to help you out.
One thing I do have a problem with(again,no one is criticizing you), is this:
I told you at my place, it is still legal.
You say you`re deck is modified.If so,you or any place cannot change any of the rules of the game/format just because you want.If this is a private game between two people just for fun at home,then you can do whatever you want.But if this is a League/`Zone,and the decks are being played in the Modified format,then you cannot do as I stated.This is just wrong.
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scyther428
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posted May 25, 2003 11:00 PM
Mine is a league, and it uses the OLD version of Modified format. We can use any cards from Team Rocket and above. Slowking is still being played there.
The league or place even has its own website.
toyznewz.com or toyzbar.com
[ May 25, 2003, 11:01 PM: Message edited by: scyther428 ]
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Scyther is fast, but not as fast as Scizor.
Scyther is strong, but not as strong as Scizor.
Scyther has a few attacks, but Scizor has more attacks.
Scyther is a Grass Pokemon, Scizor is not(HAHAHA!!!)
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posted May 25, 2003 11:14 PM
this really isnt about ur deck, but i went on the website and it said a booster pack is RM12.00 per pack. WitW is RM12.00. I have never seen RM b 4.
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Edited: Using abbreviations for words not allowed also is not allowed so i fixed it for you.
[ May 27, 2003, 04:41 AM: Message edited by: WizPog_BJJ ]
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PsycoDad
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posted May 26, 2003 10:02 AM
I have been playing around with this deck. Here is what I might try:
Pokemon:16
4x Kabuto(ND)Revive Friends
4x Kabutops(1 ND, 3 Sky)
2x Skarmory - you pick which one - anti grass
2x electabuzz
2x Cleffa(NG)
2x Magby(NG) anti grass/powers
Energy:15
6x Fighting
5x electric
4x Metal
Trainers:29
4x Focus Band
4x Double Gust
4x Fossil(2 Mysterious Fossil/2 Fossil Egg)
3x Copycat/Oak's Research
3x Elm
3x Gold Berry
2x Mirage Stadium
2x underground lake - reborn the kabuto!
2x Town Volunteers
2x oracle
Both you and your opponent can not evolve with sk kabutops active so I loaded up on BBP.
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Pidgeotto Trainer
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posted May 26, 2003 04:21 PM
I played a similar deck at SBZ. It's pretty good. The key is to get out a Kabuto and get a few more on the bench with its power. Then Kabutops becomes the most powerful Stage 1 Pokemon ever! (well maybe not ever)
You should have 1 Buried Fossil in this deck. It is very helpful because you can Pokemon Trader for it. You just need 1 so it will be unlikely to have it alone against Tyrogue at the beginning of the game. Like I said you just need 1 Kabuto to get in play. (still play 3-4 in your deck I mean) After that Mysterious fossil is more helpful as a stall then Fossil Egg.
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52nd-Fan Appreciation Tournament 3-1 Blackout theme deck. 2-2-1 Kabutops/Scizor/Furret
10th-Feb Seattle SBZ
10th-May Seattle SBZ
Ash: "Pidgeotto Gust attack."
Pidgeotto: "Pidgeoooo"
Team Rocket: "Looks like Team Rocket's blasting off again." (ding)
Pidgeotto & I challenge YOU
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scyther428
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posted May 26, 2003 11:05 PM
Pennyrolls MIC - RM is Ringgit Malaysia, and it is used in Malaysia. Toyzbar appears on the DCI tournaments section in Malaysia.
Perfect One - 3 Energy Stadiums isn't psychotic, it depends on your deck and your opponents. It counters your opponent gyms.
Psychodad - A very nice fix there, except I don't really know what Mirage Stadium, Underground Lake, and Oracle do. The Electabuzz's was a good idea. But how about the Recycle Energies?
Pidgeotto Trainer - Thanks for the tip. What does Buried Fossil do?
Note: If you put in any other Skyridge cards, can you please tell me what the card does?
[ May 26, 2003, 11:08 PM: Message edited by: scyther428 ]
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Scyther is fast, but not as fast as Scizor.
Scyther is strong, but not as strong as Scizor.
Scyther has a few attacks, but Scizor has more attacks.
Scyther is a Grass Pokemon, Scizor is not(HAHAHA!!!)
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SigmaTheFierceDeity
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posted May 27, 2003 06:06 AM
Hmm, personally I would suggest either playing straight Turbotops (ND Tops) or straight Locktops (Sky Tops). Since ND Tops is so swarmable with the god-given graces of Buried Fossil, ND Kabuto, Underground Lake (U.L. + S.E.Ret. + Lure Ball = discard a kabuto and a kabutops, get 3 energy into your hand (or is it 4?), get a kabuto on your bench for free, and get a Kabutops back into your hand). Playing Sky tops and ND Tops means that swarming your other tops will be undoable since Sky tops will stop your bench evolutions as well. And, since many people have realised the threat that Sky Tops holds, haymaker backup hitters are quite common (Scyther, Hitmonchan, Electabuzz, etc). If you're wanting to run a beatdown, then straight Turbotops will do.
Now, a Locktops deck on the other hand, is quite different. Basing a deck around a turn 2 Sky tops with no bench = near assured victory. If I'm not mistaken you stuff your deck with nothing but Cleffa and the Tops, Mysterious Fossil (don't want to get a single active Buried Fossil), and just about everything in the book to get Tops quick evolved from Myst Fossil on your second turn. Then your opponent cannot evolve and its just a matter of time before you've taken 6 prizes. However, the problems with this deck are evident. Its quite possible that you won't get Tops out turn 2, and by then your opponent can and probably will have at least one of his main hitters out and possibly powered. Also, with the rise of the useage of Pokemon Powers/PokeBodies in decks, 'ol Cromuk is making a comeback, and Muk completely ruins the strategy of Locktops.
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Why do I like this job? Because the pay's good, the scenary changes, and they let me use explosives ^_^.
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scyther428
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posted May 27, 2003 06:19 PM
Muk stops Pokemon-bodies?
Ok, now for the new deck.
Pokemon:16
4x Kabuto(ND)
4x Kabutops(2 ND, 2 Sky)
2x Skarmory(Exp)
2x Electabuzz(promo)
2x Cleffa(NG)
2x Elekid(NG)
Energy:19
6x Fighting
5x Lightning
4x Metal
4x Recycle
Trainers:25
4x Focus Band
4x Double Gust
4x Fossil(2 Mysterious Fossil/2 Fossil Egg)
4x Elm/Copycat/Oak's Research
3x Gold Berry
3x Energy Stadium
2x Town Volunteers
1x Trash Exchange
Hows this?
I still don't know what the Skyridge cards do, if anyone has a website or whatever to see all the Pokemon Skyridge Cards, can you please tell me?
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Scyther is fast, but not as fast as Scizor.
Scyther is strong, but not as strong as Scizor.
Scyther has a few attacks, but Scizor has more attacks.
Scyther is a Grass Pokemon, Scizor is not(HAHAHA!!!)
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SigmaTheFierceDeity
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posted May 27, 2003 08:40 PM
Well, even though this is probably not allowed, this link has card scans of all the Skyridge cards, though Buried Fossil may be a bit unreadable.
http://www.sugarshock.net/zeo/tcg/skyridge/index.html
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Why do I like this job? Because the pay's good, the scenary changes, and they let me use explosives ^_^.
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posted May 27, 2003 08:53 PM
Check out Aquapolis Steelix. I think you might like it.
Also, consider EcoGym as your Stadium card. It helps to protect those Steel energies against energy removal attacks (such as Revelation Kingdra's big attack), energy removal Pokemon Powers (Expedition Blastoise's Jet Stream), and energy removal cards.
Good luck.
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scyther428
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posted May 29, 2003 06:26 PM
quote:
Originally posted by SigmaTheFierceDeity:
Well, even though this is probably not allowed, this link has card scans of all the Skyridge cards, though Buried Fossil may be a bit unreadable.
http://www.sugarshock.net/zeo/tcg/skyridge/index.html
The link doesn't work for me, do you have any other links?
And I don't really want to put in Ecogym, because I feel that Energy Stadium is better for this deck.
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Scyther is fast, but not as fast as Scizor.
Scyther is strong, but not as strong as Scizor.
Scyther has a few attacks, but Scizor has more attacks.
Scyther is a Grass Pokemon, Scizor is not(HAHAHA!!!)
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posted May 29, 2003 10:29 PM
Try Pokemonzeo.com to find a very long typed up summary of all the Skyridge cards that you can download. but if you can't wait.....
Mirage Stadium Stadium card
Each time a player tries to retreat they flip a coin, if tails they don't retreat and can't retreat that pokemon for the rest of that turn.
Underground Lake Stadium (A MUST in this deck)
Once per turn a player may take a Kabuto or Omanyte from their discard pile and put it on their bench as a basic. No Flip ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
Oracle Supporter
Search your deck for 2 cards. Shuffle the rest of your deck and put those 2 cards on top of your deck in any order.
Buried Fossil Basic Pokemon (I suggest 1 in your deck for reasons I already said)
Evolves into same things as Myst. fossil
No attacks 30 HP 1 retreat
Poke-Power Reconstruction
Once during your turn you may show a basic energy card in your hand to your opponent. Then search your deck for a Kabuto or Omanyte and trade the energy for it.
It counts as a pokemon so it can be Ko'd for a prize, but the power and the fact you can trader for it was huge for me. You just need 1.
Hope this helps
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52nd-Fan Appreciation Tournament 3-1 Blackout theme deck. 2-2-1 Kabutops/Scizor/Furret
10th-Feb Seattle SBZ
10th-May Seattle SBZ
Ash: "Pidgeotto Gust attack."
Pidgeotto: "Pidgeoooo"
Team Rocket: "Looks like Team Rocket's blasting off again." (ding)
Pidgeotto & I challenge YOU
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PsycoDad
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posted May 30, 2003 02:48 PM
Hello
Pidgeotto Trainer got the cards correct. The reason I like mirage stadium in this deck is you build your SK kabutops, double gust any poke but the opponents big evo line basic or 1st stage, bring out tops and lay mirage. If you don't kill the active, they have to flip to retreat it and bring up the evo line. This keeps the evolving pokes on the bench where they can not evolve.
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posted May 30, 2003 10:05 PM
so the ruling of the skyridge kabutops was you and ur opponent CAN lay basics on there bench, so that means you can't evolve on ur bench right? (just making sure)
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PsycoDad
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posted May 31, 2003 03:57 AM
* Kabutops' Primal Aura means when it is Active neither player can play ANY Pokemon cards from their hand that will evolve any Benched Pokemon (Basic on Babies or Evolved on any). Either player CAN play a Baby or Basic onto their Bench. (May 29, 2003 WotC Chat, Q1749; May 23, 2003
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posted May 31, 2003 05:18 AM
Kubutops
Pokemon:20
4x Kabuto(ND)Revive Friends
4x Kabutops(2 ND, 2 Sky)
2x Skarmory - you pick which one - anti grass
2x electabuzz
2x Cleffa(NG)
2x Magby(NG) anti grass/powers
4x buried fossil – pokemon power trade 1 basic nrg for a kabuto
Energy:13
5x Fighting
4x electric
4x Metal
Trainers:27
3x Focus Band
4x Double Gust
3x trader
2x breeder
3x Copycat/Oak's Research
4x Elm
2x Gold Berry
1x Mirage Stadium
2x underground lake - reborn the kabuto!
1x Town Volunteers
2x oracle
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scyther428
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posted May 31, 2003 06:02 PM
What happens to the Recycle Energy's?
I tried this deck already and the Electabuzz doesn't work so well. Maybe I should use another basic Pokemon.
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Scyther is fast, but not as fast as Scizor.
Scyther is strong, but not as strong as Scizor.
Scyther has a few attacks, but Scizor has more attacks.
Scyther is a Grass Pokemon, Scizor is not(HAHAHA!!!)
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posted May 31, 2003 10:19 PM
Electabuzz doesn't work so well? Maybe try Murkrow instead, see how it does.
Solo Kabutops ![[cloud9]](graemlins/cloud9.gif)
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Grimers will eventually clog the path to my brain and take over my body.
Grimer, how many times do I have to tell you mud pies don't actually have mud in them, so they're not going to help you evolve into Muk!
Dogbertland will have thrilling rides like "the wedgie" and I'll have a maze in front of the restrooms.-Dogbert
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posted June 01, 2003 05:54 AM
Drop Buzz for Either Hitmoncahn, or baby form, Tyrouge. That way it is a Mono color deck. Skarmory, I personally preffer the slower, Agility one from Rev. Gen one is good also though. EX is all or nothing second attack, and SR can be a nice hit and run, hide behind the baby. But if I have to flip for second attack (all Skarmory seem to have exact stats pretty much, all have 60HP, R weak, G resist, 1 Eenrgy 1st attack, cept EX, and 3 energy 2nd attack with a flip, 2 retreat) I would prefer 20 and Agilty. Makes it hard for anything to hit you on next turn with heads flip, and Metal will protect you on tails.
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