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rigamortistortoise
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posted July 04, 2002 08:13 PM

i havent play tested it yet so bare with me..

16 poke
3 cleffa (draw power)
2 magby
3 kogas ditto (support and he is really cool!!)
4 kogas zubat (main hitter)
2 kogas golbat ( not very important..just back up power etc..)
2 yanma (for resistance)

34 trainers
1 time cap
1 nightly garbage run
2 bill
2 trader
4 koga
3 fushia
1 resistance gym
2 erika
2 rsa
2 ior
4 elm
4 dgow
3 mysterious fossil
3 kogas ninja trick

10 nrg
2 full heal
8 grass

strat is early..powerful hitting 40 turn 2 plus a possible poison and i can shuffle away the injured zubats with fushia and group attack to get it back healthy again

im thinking about the yanma.....should they be replaced with promo scyther for more powerful support??

and i want to fit in 4 focus but i dont know where
help??

any constuctive ideas or comments are appreciated!!
and no i will not take out the zubats!!
thanks in advance

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Viper
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posted July 05, 2002 12:13 AM

Well before I tuned to Psychic Pokémon I speciallized on Water and Poison( see my
Feral Deck Topic). If you like Koga, I think
this looks better. [Smile]

Pokémon:20
4 Koga´s Zubat
3 Koga´s Golbat
2 Koga´s Koffing LV.15
1 Koga´s Weezing
4 Koga´s Weedle
3 Koga´s Kakuna
3 Koga´s Beedrill

Trianer:15
4 Fuchsia City gym
4 Professor Elm
4 Potion
3 Koga
Energy:25
23 Grass Energy
2 Full Heal Energy

This gives you a big playground to play whit.
Beedrills can be brought back using Fuchsia Gym and Koga´s Kakuna Emerge Power. Nerve Poison is
a strong attack.
Koga´s Koffing has Smokescreen, it can stall your
enemy. Weezing is not much but Toxic Cloud can be very usefull on little HP or big retreat Cost.
Try it. You´ll see.
Hope I helped. [Big Grin]

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haymaker
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posted July 05, 2002 01:19 AM

viper, you really don't know the strategy in a koga's zubat deck.

Here's my fix:
-3 koga's ditto(it just doesn't fit)
-3 mysterious fossil(what's it for?)
-1 koga's golbat
+1 RSA
+1 IOR
+1 erika
+3 rocket's trap
+1 unown M

you need the yanma, steelix is your greatest opponent

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Whizkiddo

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posted July 05, 2002 04:12 AM

12 Pokemon

3 Cleffa
3 Pichu
4 Koga's Zubat
2 Yanma
1 Rocket's Scyther

33 Trainers

2 Nightly Garbage Run
4 Bill
2 Trader
4 Koga
2 Fushia
2 Resistance Gym
3 Erika
3 RSA
3 Imposter Oak's Revenge
4 Prof.Elm
4 Double Gust

14 Energy

2 Recycle Energy
12 Grass Energy

Focus on Koga's Zubat allong with the Poison and the Disruption this should make a great deck [Smile]

Have Fun,

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rigamortistortoise
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posted July 05, 2002 09:02 AM

i think this might be my final draft

12 nrg
10 grass
2 recycle

13 poke
1 rockets scyther
2 pichu
3 cleffa
4 kogas zubat
1 kogas golbat (if i can find my other rockets scyther ill take him out for it)
2 yanma

35 trainers
4 elm
4 double g
3 ior
2 rsa
1 rockets trap
4 focus
2 fushia
2 resistance gym
2 erika
4 koga
2 trader
2 bill
2 ngr
1 time cap

thanx to everyone who replied....keep them coming they really helped!!

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Mr. Popo
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posted July 05, 2002 12:26 PM

4 Koga's Zubat
2 Cleffa
2 Pichu

4 Erika
4 Misty's Wrath
4 Elm
4 RSA
4 IOR
4 Koga
2 Fuschia City Gym
4 Double Gust
4 Nightly Garbage Run
4 Focus Band
4 Koga's Ninja Trick

10 Grass Energy

[Devilish]

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mercad
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posted July 05, 2002 02:10 PM

mr popo's with

-1 NGR
+1 Cleffa

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ScythKing

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posted July 05, 2002 08:06 PM

quote:
Originally posted by rigamortistortoise:
i havent play tested it yet so bare with me..

I have a lot of experience with Koga's Zubat - one of my favorites. here is a deck that runs well.

4 K Zubat
3 Yanma (covers your steel resistance)
4 Houndour (covers your psychic weakness)
4 Houndoom (Crunch)
3 Cleffa (don't leave home without it!)
(18) Pokemon

4 Elm
3 Koga (poison 'em while your at it)
4 Nightly Garbage Run (get those dead bats back in the deck)
3 Double Gust
3 Fushia Gym (if you can get 'em back in before a KO - way better)
3 Focus band (keep them bats alive!)
3 Energy Charge - get darks back
(23)

4 darkness energy
3 Full Heal energy
6 Grass
6 Fire (good for flamethrower but optional if you want to max out the grass)
(19)

Stratgey - hit 'em hard and fast with the zubat while getting a Houndoom up and running. Houndours Plunder is good to get rid of nasty old Gold Berries and Focus bands. This deck can and will eat gatr decks for lunch AND dinner. Dark can also be a good pluspower for the Zubat if you really need to get over a hump. Use the Fuschia to get the Zubat's back in the deck before expiring - you get 'em right back out next attack.
All have cheap or no retreat cost so that's a plus for statuses. Yanma can be good for harassing and against Steelix.

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posted July 05, 2002 08:26 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Whizkiddo:
12 Pokemon

3 Cleffa
3 Pichu
4 Koga's Zubat
2 Yanma
1 Rocket's Scyther

33 Trainers

2 Nightly Garbage Run
4 Bill
2 Trader
4 Koga
2 Fushia
2 Resistance Gym
3 Erika
3 RSA
3 Imposter Oak's Revenge
4 Prof.Elm
4 Double Gust

14 Energy

2 Recycle Energy
12 Grass Energy

Whizkid

id go with this version except since your goin all basicdrop the: nightly garbage run the imposters and a d gust then add 3 mysterious fossils and three lc areodactyls belive me your oponent wont be able to get out his evos because of areodactyls pkpower

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ScythKing

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posted July 05, 2002 08:42 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Whizkiddo:
add 3 mysterious fossils and three lc areodactyls

Aerodactyl did *not* come out in legendary collection if that is what you meant by LC.

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posted July 05, 2002 10:16 PM

Go with Mr. Popo's fix, except:
-1 Wrath
-1 Fushia : Brother plays this deck, he said it didn't really help him
-4 Trick : Powerful, but not really needed
-1 NGR
+4 Dark : 50 second turn with Poison, ow
+2 Resistance : Just in case of of that rogue Steelix deck
+1 Murkrow

Turn this deck basically into : destroy their hand, kill all their basics that evolve, and then watch them cry. Darks are in there for the 10 guys that some Pokes have after you hit them, Mukrow is just tech. Hope you like it. [Angel]

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mercad
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posted July 06, 2002 02:23 AM

that works as well... but darks will hurt some

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Merc: Gengar dont make me pull out the big guns
DMTM: NO! don't he's my friend
Gengar: GENGAR!
Merc: Ok! Go DELIBIRD!
Delibird: Deli... Delibird
Merc: Delibird use present!
Delibird: DELI!
Gengar: ?_?
Gengar: GENGAR!
DMTM: Looks like were blasting off again

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rigamortistortoise
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posted July 06, 2002 08:14 AM

ScythKing thanx for the dark idea!!...but i might go with this one:

1 pichu
3 cleffa
4 kogas zubat
1 kogas golbat
3 murkrow
1 rockets scyther

10 grass
4 dark

4 elm
4 double g
3 ior
2 rsa
1 rockets trap
4 focus
3 fushia
1 resistance gym
4 koga
2 trader
2 bill
3 ngr

any more feedback is appreciated!!

by playing murkrow i noticed that im taking care of zubats weakness and taking care of the resistance factor to grass which then freed up space by taking out the no longer needed yanma which takes alot of nrg to do swift where as murkrow is better in every aspect except Hp

i also want to keep golbat because of the possible confusion and back up power

keep em coming!!

[ July 06, 2002, 08:33 AM: Message edited by: rigamortistortoise ]

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ScythKing

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posted July 06, 2002 07:54 PM

quote:
Originally posted by rigamortistortoise:
ScythKing thanx for the dark idea!!...but i might go with this one:
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by playing murkrow i noticed that im taking care of zubats weakness and taking care of the resistance factor

Ahhh - I used Murkrow too - but my feeling is that bird's a wuss unless some idiot puts an Iggly up front and didn't pack any DblGust - not likely to happen. Houndoom on the other hand also takes care of your psychic weakness and packs a lot of wallop for DCC (60). Personal preference I suppose.

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