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Pichu CC
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posted March 15, 2003 10:32 PM      Profile for Pichu CC   Email Pichu CC    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Hey everyone. I'll be here here from now on, hope ya don't mind. [Big Grin] This has worked incredibly well for me, infact I haven't really had a major loss. So tell me what you think...

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Pokemon (17)

4x Dratini/Neo Destiny
3x Light Dragonair/Neo Destiny
3x Light Dragonite/Neo Destiny

3x Electabuzz/BestOfGame Promo

2x Cleffa/Neo Genesis

1x Elekid

1x Tyrongue

Trainers (24)

4x Professer Elm
3x Gold Berry
3x Focus Band
3x Switch
3x Pokemon Trader
2x Double Gust
2x Town Volunteers
2x Baloon Berry
2x Professer Oaks Research
1x Eco Gym
1x Energy Stadium

Energy (17)

3x Boost Energy
3x Recycle Energy
11x Electric Energy

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Yeah. I'm still modifying it due to whether I should have 3 or 4 Boost Energy. Also, I'm still modifying my Trainers as I'm kind of uncomfortable the way it looks, but I posted that because that's what I have as of latest and it has worked out fine.

Edited: Changed your topic title - you had one too many "M"'s i'm afraid.

[ March 17, 2003, 04:41 AM: Message edited by: WizPog_BJJ ]

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posted March 16, 2003 07:38 AM      Profile for Sea Crobat      Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
[Confused] [Confused] [Confused] 6 Light Dragonite? [Confused] [Confused] [Confused]
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posted March 16, 2003 10:15 AM      Profile for Pichu CC   Email Pichu CC    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
What? How does this reply make sense? I clearely did not express 6 Light Dragonite on the listing.

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posted March 16, 2003 10:47 AM      Profile for Dark-Zapdos      Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
u know that he ment 3 Light Dragonair and 3 Light Dragonite. Just make your fix next time. I think that u should combine the light Dragonite with the aquapolis Espeon. Just put Boost energy on Light Dragonite when u want to attack and take it off whenever. then u can use Pokemon center and clear off all damage. and then reattach the boost on your next turn.

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posted March 16, 2003 07:57 PM      Profile for Pichu CC   Email Pichu CC    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Yeah, it is a proposable strategy, and I've heard it all before. A few things though...

1. I don't like Psychic. [Razz]

2. I don't have any Espeon's and don't want to pain through trading and buying to get them. [Embarrassed]

3. I made this deck to percieve something different to others. [Big Grin]

This is kind of what I like over what others think work better. It also has an amazing effect.

Another thing is you can't always expect everything to come out the way it's supposed to. Light Dragonite has a weak evolution line, and not to mention he isn't the most Powerful hitting card in the world. It takes time to build him up. The point of Electabuzz is that I can hack away really early in the game, first time, while I build him up. So it is a fast Dragonite deck, so to speak. [Smile]

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posted March 17, 2003 07:29 AM      Profile for CmonIWanaPLaYa      Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Nice deck..wish I was in your area so I can use my TTar deck....L. Nite gives me the added benefit of my Boost energy and Aq TTar...80 damage, discard the top 3 from both decks after turn 3...every turn until I get knocked out....that would be fun...just a thought...I would use ER2...and max out on the Boost nrg...try a Furret L. Nite deck...

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posted March 17, 2003 07:53 AM      Profile for KYDAD   Email KYDAD    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
The only change that I'd make is to find a way to add anothe 1-2 basics. With only 10 basics there's a 26% chance (trust me on this) that your opponent will get a couple of extra cards via a mulligan. I like to go with 11 or 12, but it depends on your tolerance for starting behind in card count.

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posted March 17, 2003 08:53 AM      Profile for SigmaTheFierceDeity   Email SigmaTheFierceDeity    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Yeah, this deck could use some tweaking. Lets see what I can do.

REMOVE:
1x Elekid
1x Energy Stadium
1x Ecogym
2x Baloon Berry
2x Professor Oak's Research
1x Light Dragonair
1x Lightning Energy

ADD:
1x Tyrogue
1x Cleffa
3x Pokemon Breeder
3x Copycat
1x Boost Energy

This should help a little bit.

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posted March 17, 2003 08:22 PM      Profile for Pichu CC   Email Pichu CC    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Yes, as I said it's the current tweak.

Okay a few things...

CmonIWannaPlayYa, that wouldn't work out and for a few reasons.

1. Aquapolis Tyranitar requires a Darkness Energy to attack with the attack you speak of, so Boost Energy would do nothing for you.

2. You would not discard cards off the top of my deck. Light Dragonite's Attack, Light Wave, specifically states that all effects of your opponent's next attack are prevented, excluding flips and other damage related terms.

Furret? Your kidding? I don't have space to fit this Uncommon card in, especially with its' surprisingly weak basic, and low Hit Points. Even in Furret, its' Hit Points are low, and it isn't much of an attacker, as Electabuzz would have it beat in no time if they were to be pitted against each other. Its' Pokemon Power? I'm not putting cards in here specifically for their Poke-Powers, as that is not a way to go for me. It usually doesn't work out. Furret can slip its' way in to another one of my decks later, with a different pose, and a different strategy.

I refuse to even consider Energy Removal 2 in any of my decks. It is a terrible card, with all chance and no pride. I don't have room for that.

About the Mulligans. I am very aware of letting my opponent's hand get to plentiful in early game. That's what Electabuzz is for. 10 happens to be by lowest standard, and it usually works out. I don't come across any major where-the-heck-are-my-Pokemon situations. Thanks for the input though, and I'll be sure to tweak it, to maybe take away the tiny chance I'm taking with 10 Basics.

Simga, I was highly considering adding Pokemon Breeder's, but was not sure, because it keeps all my other Trainers alive to not add it. You made my day by agreeing with my idea. I'll post the new improved deck for the people later when I have the more spare time. I just recently replaced the Elekid with another Tyrongue, so that's not a problem.

Important though, are the Stadiums. I would feel really uncomfortable taking them out for a good reason. Other Stadiums. If there is a really annoying Stadium in play such as Chaos Gym, Narrow Gym, Cinnabar Gym exct, I can counter it with my own to benefit me with its effect. I know thos Gyms won't pop up for Modified Battle Zone format, but I also play against Unlimited players too. Thank you for the fix.

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posted March 17, 2003 10:49 PM      Profile for CrazyWhiteGuy   Email CrazyWhiteGuy    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
I like your deck, my only suggestion is to play pokebreeder's. I think Electabuzz is a good choice to. I mainly like your deck because it's simple and different. Good luck with it.

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posted March 18, 2003 04:43 AM      Profile for WizPog_BJJ   Email WizPog_BJJ    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Two points of observation:

1) AQ T-Tar works very well with Boost Energy against Light Dragonite. It's Power makes all energy attached to it provide Darkness (and there's not a thing Light Dragonite can do about this).

2) Since the deck discarding is not done to Light Dragonite, it happens. Light Dragonite only prevents effects done to it. So things like Bench damage, your opponent switching out, and card Discarding do happen.

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posted March 18, 2003 07:09 AM      Profile for Raikou1234      Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
I believe you mean expedition tyranitar.....

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posted March 18, 2003 08:04 AM      Profile for CmonIWanaPLaYa      Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Here is the thing though Pichu, I use Muk in my Aq TTar deck so With L. Nite in Play, get my Boost attached and then muk the next turn....simple as 1, 2 3. I wasnt slamming your deck either, just made some suggestions. Also the SER2 card is a beast...especially with the Aq Espeon. Plus you can use nurse and ceneter with him...they were suggestions...you play the deck the way you want to play it and have fun...that is what it is all about....GL

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posted March 18, 2003 08:18 AM      Profile for Purple_Nurple      Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
I play L. Dragonite with Aq Espeon and Nurse. I also use SER2 and it does work 50% of the time. Can be critical when going against some big energy hogs. Nice deck though. I like the Electabuzz idea!

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posted March 18, 2003 10:04 PM      Profile for Pichu CC   Email Pichu CC    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Okay, every post after the other, you are adding more and more counters in your strategy to beat mine.

Light Dragonite Prevents ALL effects. EXCLUDING DAMAGE TO IT. This means its bench can NOT be hit if Light Dragonite had used Light Wave on the previous turn. Go ahead, call up the Wizards yourself and ask.

Second of all, you made a failure attempt to attack my strategy once again.

Muk shuts off Poke-Bodys my friend. He shuts them OFF. Therefore, Expedition Tyranitar with a Boost Energy=USELESS. His Poke-Body would be nothing more than extra writing, so face it. Come up with something new [Devilish] .

How many vote I have won this conversation?

Signing out...

[ March 18, 2003, 10:07 PM: Message edited by: Pichu CC ]

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posted March 19, 2003 04:52 AM      Profile for WizPog_BJJ   Email WizPog_BJJ    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
quote:
Originally posted by Pichu CC:
Light Dragonite Prevents ALL effects. EXCLUDING DAMAGE TO IT. This means its bench can NOT be hit if Light Dragonite had used Light Wave on the previous turn. Go ahead, call up the Wizards yourself and ask.

Well you're half right. The Bench can and will be hit by something that does Bench Damage. Why? Because the effect is happening to the Bench not Light Dragonite. Effects done to Light Dragonite are prevented such as Posioning, Confusion, and switching to the Bench. Attacks like Cleffa's Eeeeeek are not prevented as the effect is not happening to Light Dragonite. Neither is Bench damage. While the Attack is done against Light Dragonite, the effects of Bench Damage and Eeeeeeek are not done to Light Dragonite and therefor are not prevented. And instead of calling Wizards, just check The Compendium

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Muk shuts off Poke-Bodys my friend. He shuts them OFF. Therefore, Expedition Tyranitar with a Boost Energy=USELESS. His Poke-Body would be nothing more than extra writing, so face it.
The T-tar from Aqua does not have a Power (i got it confused with the Exp one). Aqua T-Tar needs [Black Mana] [Black Mana] [White Mana] [White Mana] [White Mana] to attack. The strategy would be get T-tar with 2 [Black Mana] on it, preferably on the Bench. Then drop Boost. Since Light Dragonite is Active, it stays on T-tar. Next turn, evolve to Muk. Now attack with T-Tar.

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posted March 19, 2003 07:21 AM      Profile for CmonIWanaPLaYa      Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Here is one of my TTar decks that I am playing:

P 17
3 Larvitar (2 Aq/ 2 Des)
1 Pupitar (1Aq/ 1 Dis)
3 Ttar (2 Dis/ 1 Aq)
2 Bulbasaur (Ex #95)
2 Venusaur (Ex HB)
2 Unown D
1 Cleffa
2 Tyrogue
1 Aipom

T 27
3 Bill
3 Bill’s Maintenance
3 Elm
3 Elm’s Training
2 Pokemon Fan Club
3 Breeder
3 Focus Band
3 Gold Berry
3 Switch
1 Town Volunteers

E 16
4 Dark
3 Rainbow
2 Boost
6 Grass

Now L. Nite would kill this one. But my Aq TTar deck that is in the works could eat your nite deck. Oh yeah, I would never use Muk with Expedition TTar do to the poke body.

And to correct you, L. Nite specifically say "done to Light Dragonite" so the damage does go to the bench just like if Promo Mew is in play. Mew is protected but the damage still effects the bench. So to use this deck, I would either need to use Grass Cube or just Slam you until you are gone.

BTW, I didnt know this was an arguement. If you can't take the criticism or suggestions, IMO, don't post. It isn't personal, it is just a matter of opinions due to the area where each of us play.

But Aq TTar/ Muk Still owns you! [Devilish]

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posted March 21, 2003 07:15 PM      Profile for Pichu CC   Email Pichu CC    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
No. You obviously do not understand Pokemon to well. Really...I'd think you would have checked with others to see, or called Wizards or something.

Light Dragonite States-

Light Wave-Prevent all effects of attacks on your opponents next turn, besides damage to Light Dragonite.

Read it? Read it clearely.

It says all effects of attacks are prevented. You doing damage to my bench is an attack effect.

The only thing that is not prevented, is damage pointed towards Light Dragonite. Since you fail to understand this when I have explained earlier, I will go in to detail.

When it says besides damage, that means that only damage can be done to it if it had used Light Wave.

Unless Eeeeeeek does damage, I'm proving you wrong. It does prevent Eeeeeeek. It is exactly like Suicune(Holofoil)'s Pokemon Power.

I'll will also give you an example that even tells you the basis of what I'm stating. Infact, a few!

1. Light Dragonite uses Light Wave.

2. Foe's Turn

3. They want to attack with Expedition Tyranitar's Stamp. So they attack.

They flip to see if they may do 60 damage instead of 50, but if it is heads, it does not do damage to the bench. It only does 60 to Light Dragonite.

Reason being is because the damage is not being done to Light Dragonite, it is being done to the bench. Thus, it is prevented because it is something else that is not damage to Light Dragonite. And since he prevents everything but that...it doesn't do anything except damage to Light Dragonite! Do you get what I'm saying.

Yeah, and another thing. Why ceck Compendium, when you can check with the maker of the English card game?

I really don't see the point of you coming in this topic just to tell me that your deck would "rule" mine anyway.

So...Thanks guys for the fixing and the help!

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posted March 21, 2003 07:54 PM      Profile for BJJ763   Email BJJ763    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
*sigh* Do you even know what The Compendium is? Is the the repository for all the rulings made by WotC at WotC's Pokémon chat. WotC has already ruled on this (and Suicune and Agility). If you read Light Dragonite's effect attack, not paraphrase it, you will notice a very important phrase:

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Prevent all effects of attacks, other than damge, done to Light Dragonite during your opponent’s next turn.
I've highlighted the relevent part of the effect for you. Bench damage is not done to Suicune. It is done to the Bench. Therefor Light Wave does not prevent it. I thought i'd help you out by pointing out a major flaw in your deck theory, one that would be pointed out to you if you went to a tournament (it's VERY annoying to find out a critical part of your deck design does not work as you think during a tournament).

Oh, and notice the neat icon beneath my name? It's there for a reason.

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posted March 22, 2003 05:24 AM      Profile for Johnny Blaze   Email Johnny Blaze    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
PichuCC - On dealing with the low Basic count. Take out 2 Prof. Oak's Research and 2 switch and add 4 Copycats. This way when you mulligan mutliple times your opponent will have a huge hand to Copycat. It is a great strategy actually. If you find room you should also fit in at least 2 Pokemon Fan CLub in order to easily pull out 2 babies or basics from your deck.

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posted March 27, 2003 10:05 AM      Profile for Pichu CC   Email Pichu CC    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
I was in the middle of a long explanation when my power went out, and I'm too lazy to type it up again so I'll make this simple.

I play at Wizards of the Coast Store.

It DID come up at a tournament. Expedition Tyranitar VS Light Dragonite. He thought it only prevented special effects but got ruled out.

I've called the guy's up, and had about a 20 minute conversation with them. Me and my friend always have good discussions with them. We prove them wrong all the time. We call them up, they say something, and we say that they are wrong and tell them why, and they say..."oh...".

In the ruling, it says nothing for this. So if it is official, then put it there. If it IS there, show me.

You're not making sense. Read it, Prevent all effects of attacks, other than damage, done to Light Dragonite. This, I know, excludes coin flipping for extra damage. It says ALL effects so that means if the effect isn't flipping for more damage to Light Dragonite, generally else is basically prevented. Unless a Light Wave is used on a Light Wave, but I won't get in to that now...
If Tyranitar uses Stamp, then 50 damage is done to Light Dragonite, a coin is flipped, if it is heads, then it does 60 damage to Light Dragonite. No damage to the bench though, because it is something other than damage to Light Dragonite. Since Light Dragonite prevents all effects besides damage...

The bench damage is an EFFECT that is not doing damage to Light Dragonite, so it is prevented, do you understand how I'm saying this?

Thats great that you have a little icon under your name [Bored] , that doesn't automatically get you my credit. You have to show skill to have skill. If we go at it one day, which I highly doubt, and you cream me, I'll give your bragging rights, but until then...your "icon" is nothing more to me than just a little computer image. I know you had to show skill to get it, but I've never met you before, so how would I know? [NoNoNo]

I don't understand how you are analyzing the card, so humor me and pretend that I'm stupid.

[ March 27, 2003, 10:07 AM: Message edited by: Pichu CC ]

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posted March 27, 2003 11:58 AM      Profile for Dan the Pokeman   Email Dan the Pokeman    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Straight from the WotC Q&A Compendium:

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LIGHT WAVE (Light Dragonite - Neo: Destiny Expansion)

Q. With the Light Dragonite's "Light Wave" attack, does that only prevent such effects as Sleep, Poison, Paralysis, etc., or does it also cover other effects of attacks such as Drawing cards, discarding energies, etc. and also, would it prevent bench damage in any way?
A. It works exactly as Suicune's Crystal Body does. This means that it prevents all effects DONE to Light Dragonite. So no status effects on it (like Smokescreen), no Special Conditions on it (like Poison) , you can't discad an energy or trainer attached to it (like Sneasel's Swipe), nor can you switch it using an attack effect like Dark Gengar's Pull In. (Mar 7, 2002 WotC Chat, Q699)

Since this answer referred to Suicune's Crystal Body, here is that ruling (I emphasized relevant portions):

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While attacks are still always against the Defending Pokemon, regardless of where their effects end up, the effects end up on a specific Pokemon. So Suicune's Crystal Body Power which reads: "Prevent all effects of your opponent's attacks, other than damage,
done to Suicune", means that ONLY effects done TO Suicune are prevented. So, an attack that does 20 damage and paralyzes would still do 20 damage but would NOT Paralyze a Defending Suicune. If the attacking Pokemon (with Suicune as the Defending Pokemon)
does damage to a Benched Pokemon, Suicune's Crystal Body Power does NOT prevent that effect or damage as it is NOT being done to Suicune. Any additional effects the attack may have (such as having to discard an energy in order to use the attack, or self-inflicted damage) is NOT prevented as it is NOT done to Suicune
. If Suicune is a Benched Pokemon and Dark Arbok uses its Stare attack against it ("Choose 1 of your opponent's Pokemon. This attack does 10 damage to that Pokemon. Don't apply Weakness and Resistance for this attack. (Any other effects that would happen after applying Weakness and Resistance still happen.) If that Pokemon has a Pokemon Power, that power stops working until the end of your opponent's next turn."), Suicune would still take the 10 damage but its Crystal Body Pokemon Power would prevent the Stare's effect of shutting off the Pokemon Power. It is important to recognize that attacks are always against the Defending Pokemon, which is why Cleffa's Eeeeeeek can be prevented by a Smokescreen effect or any other attack prevention even though the Eeeeeeek! attack does not do anything to the Defending Pokemon. So, Crystal Body, Agility, and Haunter's Transparency do NOT prevent Eeeeeeek!, only effects of attacks that are done TO them. (Feb 14, 2002 WotC Chat, Q18)

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I know you had to show skill to get it, but I've never met you before, so how would I know?
Do you know, or do you not know? It's not easy to become a Professor, and it's even more difficult to become a Master Professor. He got that icon by first passing a difficult test and then by being either a Tournament Organizer or Head Judge at at least five (5) DCI Sanctioned Tournaments. He clearly has extensive knowlege of the game. I'm not saying that his word can't be questioned; just that his knowledge is probably greater than that of some unnamed and unknown "they" that you and your friends constantly "say they are wrong". If someone at your local gym made the ruling as you claim above, they made a mistake. It's not the first mistake ever made and it surely won't be the last, but it should be corrected and the game play as it's creators and their representatives intend. Mistakes happen, that's OK. We just need to correct them as soon as we can. That's all we're doing here.
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posted March 29, 2003 05:53 PM      Profile for Pichu CC   Email Pichu CC    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah....

I Seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...

Thank you very much. Thank you very much for clearing that up for me.

I get it now...

If you remove the comma'd statement, it says Prevent all effects of attacks done to Light Dragonite.

I was reading it sort of differently I guess.

I'm sorry if I have made an inconvenience, or trouble to any of you.

Man I feel stupid now... [NoNoNo] [Bored]

Edited: Please don't type so many letters in a row - it stretches the page.

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posted March 30, 2003 07:05 AM      Profile for ScythKing   Email ScythKing    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
quote:
Originally posted by Pichu CC:
Thank you very much. Thank you very much for clearing that up for me.
I get it now...
I'm sorry if I have made an inconvenience, or trouble to any of you.

Ummmmm the only trouble that you caused was wasted time, maybe a little irritation. Part of the problem is you are not aware of some of the culture here.

#1 - when you see a "moderator" icon under someones's name that means they are trusted by Wizards to moderate - ie supervise - the forum. Not a smart move to challenge them.
#2 - when you see a professor icon under someone's name that means they have passed a very hard test that tests that person's knowledge of both tournament rules and the pokemon game in great detail.
#3 - when you see Master Professor under someone's name (like mine), not only have they passed the test but they put their knowledge to use by running and judging tournaments.
#4 - Most important IMHO is the Compendium. Every week there is a Wizards chat where questions like this come up. A group of hard-working, dedicated beyond belief volunteers, known officially as Team Compendium, gather this information, organize it, cross-reference it and then post it on their web site HERE. It is so comprehensive that it has earned the right to be used as an official reference during tournaments.

So, as you can see my friend you have been spitting in the eye of some pretty knowledgable people who were just trying to help.

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posted April 05, 2003 03:11 PM      Profile for Pichu CC   Email Pichu CC    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
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You know, it bugs me when someone can't let a solutional topic die. I would just let it...but there are a few statements you made that sort of naw at my brain.

You're a "Master Professer" correct?

Bah, spitting in the eye. I didn't spit in anyone's eye, I just disagreed until proven wrong. I admit this. I give up, and accepted the fact that they were right about this one, and have done so many times in the past with over hundreds of people. This is something called, "learning". It is like a debate. My point, their point, arguement, settled, solution or overall point. Period. Proven wrong, and will work of this new knowledge.

Now, when you say I have been spitting in the eye of some knowledgeable people, but forementioned that I am a waste of time, this is sort of bad critique. Are you saying if a member disagrees with a certain fact because they think there is a loop hole to a card, that he/she thinks no one else understands, which causes more "Professer's and Master Professer's" to join in and spill their sense, is a waste of time? As a moderator shouldn't you treat every member with the same help? Not more or less because they don't know the rules?

This means that just because there is a disagreement, when the big poppa Professers come in, there word is law? That is not how it works. This is a message board(As I'm sure you are probably aware of), and arguements is what it is all about. People come to learn, not get there faces stamped that they wasted time because he caused the poor Professers to actually do some research on proving this little guy wrong on a Pokemon card.

The only thing they tell me when they tromp on in and say, "Hey, lookie, I have a funny little icon under my name that makes me a little bit more smarter than everyone else", is that they are a little too proud of earning it. That is exactly how it started. Not with those words, but you can scroll up, eh?

Just because a member caused a little bit of a ruffle among the, "Professers", doesn't mean it's a waste of time. It means that you should work together and get it through his head,(Which has been done), and then lay back and say, "Ah, another trainer learned a valuable lesson which will help him become better".

If you didn't notice, I said thank you, which means I do appreicate the help from everyone. If I truly irritated you, then this is not your job. If one member irritates you because he needs a little more sense knocked in to him, well there are trillions of people all over the world that do the same thing. If I irritate you, I'll try and keep behind my line, just so I can keep the respect that I have for the Card game, and so no one dislikes me too much.

Thanks for sharing, oh Professer-like one [bow]

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Pokemon. What a name.

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