Author Topic: A Pokémon deck taking a "Yu-Gi-Oh"ish turn! Mindbender v1.0 Satoshi_Of_Pojo Member # 58975 posted November 11, 2002 04:01 PM            Greetings all, I - like nearly everyone else in the Pokémon community at this time, I'd imagine - have been looking for a way to boost my interest back up to what it once was regarding Pokémon. I'm not ashamed to say that I had for a while been experimenting with Yu-Gi-Oh, but in the end I found it too random and luck oriented to be a steady competitive game. But one thing stuck with me from Yu-Gi-Oh (which I now play casually)... ...the idea of playing cards facedown in an attempt to gall an opponent into attacking is an appetizing one, am I correct? And imagine if that same type of mind trickery could be harnessed for our game...Well, who's to say it can't? This is a deck idea I've been toying with for a long while, and I think that now it has just enough of the surprise element on its side to help it work all the better. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the Mind Bender. Mind Bender 1 Nightly Garbage Run 2 Scoop Up 3 Pokemon Center 2 Chaos Gym 3 Blaine's Quiz #3 4 Berry 3 Professor Elm 4 Lt. Surge's Secret Plan 4 Item Finder 4 Computer Search 3 Professor Oak 4 Metal Energy 10 Psychic Energy 1 Mewtwo L60 2 Erika's Dratini 1 Unown B 1 Unown Y 1 Unown X 3 Cleffa 4 Mr. Mime Yes, I know how weird it looks. But let's examine, hmm? First, we'll get to WHY the deck could be so annoying in theory. To do this, we'll need to get some rulings on Lt. Surge's Secret Plan, the main staple of this deck. According to the Pokémon TCG Rules Compendium(unless it's been changed in some way), the following is true about a card put facedown by Lt. Surge's Secret Plan: -Anything that needs to know the specifics about a card flipped facedown forces the card face-up (Attacks, trainers such as Blaine, etc). -When attacking a card that is facedown, the attack is announced first, then the card is flipped. -Such things as attaching energy and/or Pokemon Tools do not force the card to be flipped faceup. -Gust of Wind and/or promoting to active status do not force the card to be flipped. Keeping all of that in mind, let's see what this deck is capable of. Heavy hitters are going to have a cow when Mime is revealed to have blocked all but 20 damage from their attack, and is healing with a Berry/Scooped up next turn. At the same time, Erika's Dratini makes heavy hitting basics cry, and Unown/Blaine's Quiz #3 is enough to drive anyone insane. Sure, the attack is "Hidden Power"...now which Unown is it? Put it all together and you've got one heck of a fun deck to play. I can't wait to get this sucker together so I can start annoying the heck out of people...comments? Critiques? Suggestions? All are welcome. Thanks! ~Tash -------------------- 3rd Place WCSC Professor Draft ==WCSC All Time Best Quote== "Dude, like the 'Tiger Woods' look I've got going?" ~Martin Moreno From: Elsewhere | Registered: Jan 2002  |  IP: Logged TheCrossFormatKid Member # 87741 posted November 11, 2002 06:16 PM             All i can say is that it is extremely weak to pichu. But it looks, to say the least, intruiging. -------------------- AIM at professorcfk/nintendofanboy02 if u want "PokeWHAT!?PikaWHO!? Man you kids are crazy."~ Eric Brooks Member of the TMP teams "Team Barlock and Gagnon" and team "The Outsiders"(12th place at genconINDY2003 championship) From: Hoodbridge, VA | Registered: Jun 2002  |  IP: Logged zapdoskid2k2 Member Member # 83948 posted November 11, 2002 06:17 PM             wow that would be one migrane but realy it looks like you are trying to give your oponent the run around and confuse them more than you are tryin to defeat them... admitted fun deck... but I expect big lose... no fixes your just to brainy for me to compete -------------------- welcome to the end of your life and promise its going to hurt- vegeta proud fan of DBZ From: Indiana | Registered: May 2002  |  IP: Logged XanTheRipper Member Member # 113421 posted November 11, 2002 09:04 PM            lol this is a relly fun deck Satoshi lol no fix [ November 11, 2002, 09:05 PM: Message edited by: XanTheRipper ] -------------------- -Xan... Gusten Lindkvister From: Sweden | Registered: Nov 2002  |  IP: Logged slowdad Member Member # 66088 posted November 11, 2002 11:29 PM            A very interesting concept indeed! I don't like the Metal energies because they don't help E Dratini or Mr Mime. A Recycle energy can be placed face down and when it is attacked you may discard it (back to your hand) and push up the best wall against that attack. I think Clefairy Doll and Mysterious Fossil can be used to absorb the attack (they are treated as Basic Pokemon while in play)without loss of a prize and you can push up a Smeargle with DCE for real punishment. The charade will end quickly if your opponent has a Pokemon which causes you to check the status of your bench, such as SI Mew (check type) or Pichu (check PP). CFK has already mentioned the havoc a Pichu will wreak on all the Pokemon with PP's in this deck. Finally, those Chaos Gyms will probably cause you more grief than relief. Perhaps Healing Fields can slow down your use of Pokemon Centers and Scoops to keep E Dratini and Mr Mime alive a little longer. From: Watsonville CA | Registered: Feb 2002  |  IP: Logged Onix95 Member # 103241 posted November 12, 2002 01:13 AM            Love the idea, but where you say attatching a Pokemon tool or energy card, if you mean attatch it to the face down "Pokemon" I think it would be flipped over, because of cards like the non-holo Raikou, Entei, and Suicune, and other cards like Eevee (either one with a power). My assumption is that whenever a player does something that any basic Pokemon can react to would cause the card to be flipped over, but that's just my guess. I really like the idea, and in casual play, it would be one of the ultimate fun decks to play. Problem is, where's the Blue Eyes and Dark Magician? From: Honolulu, Hawaii | Registered: Aug 2002  |  IP: Logged The Dark Llama Member Member # 75434 posted November 12, 2002 06:35 PM             Another addition to the Blaine's Quiz #3 torture chamber is any (W) Pokemon that knows Water Gun. Think - how many cards know Water Gun? Why let them be so sure it's an Unown, why not confuse them even more? -------------------- Best Decks Kurai Tsuki no Kokoro Dark Ampharos/Dark Espeon 31-7 Kage Ha! Dark Scizor 8-0 Elm, Oak, Cleffa and Copycat are archetypes. YGO Deck: Yukai na Shi ni yotte Ryu Pleasant Death by way of Dragon 25-8 My have/want list One Sentence Add-On! From: San Diego | Registered: Apr 2002  |  IP: Logged PokePop Member # 8 posted November 13, 2002 09:43 AM             Yep, attaching Tools and Energy Cards would cause a flip of the card. Also, to correct your Mr. Mime statement: If an attack is blocked, it is totally blocked. I agree that the Metal does not help you much. Better to spend the slots on something else. With all of the Trainers that you are playing, Chaos Gyms are not the way to go. Another card that would be frustrating for your opponent would be "Sleep! Sleep!". -------------------- "This kind of makes you miss the compendium..." - Martin Moreno The Compendium: http://pkcompendium.hypermart.net Registered: Feb 2001  |  IP: Logged

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