Author Topic: Help Me win a box of Cards by Beating a Haymaker. Dark-Zapdos Member Member # 58372 posted October 12, 2002 11:59 AM            If I beat the Leaders Hay-Maker. Electabuzz/Scyther/Magmar/Elekid I win a box of cards. Pokemon 20 4 onix 3 Steelix 3 Rockets Zapdos 3 Electabuzz 4 Slowpoke 3 Slowking Trainers 22 4 Gold Berry 4 Elm 3 Trader 3 Bill 2 Challenge 2 Plus Power 1 Time Capsule 3 Switches Energy 18 3 Metal 2 Rainbow 10 Electric 3 Double Colorless -------------------- Always play with a deck that looks good and u have fun playing, it just may win. 1st at Cedar Grove Sky SBZ 14th at Milford Sky SBZ 9th at Milford AQ SBZ DECKS: Poliwrath Plunge(AQ SBZ DECK)4 wins-2 loss-1 draw Poliwrath Plunge 2.0(SKY SBZ DECK) 6 wins-1 loss-2 draws including top 8 Last Player in my town and gonna be playin til there's no more tournaments in the world. Aim Mike042888 Email [email protected] From: CT | Registered: Jan 2002  |  IP: Logged Onix95 Member # 103241 posted October 12, 2002 12:20 PM            If he's using all basic pokes, you could use Erika's Dratini, though it has weak HP, it can take only a little bit of dammage from their attacks, and if you load up on heal cards, you can keep it alive, its not the best reccomendation, but its the first thing that came to my mind. From: Honolulu, Hawaii | Registered: Aug 2002  |  IP: Logged Dark-Zapdos Member Member # 58372 posted October 12, 2002 01:41 PM            My friend tried that but still got his butt wooped. I also thought of using this deck because it has resistances and he has weakness to my deck, but I personally know that there is 2 many evo's and very high Retreat Costs. Pokemon 22 4 Onix 3 Steelix 4 Swinub 2 Light Poloswine 2 Poloswine (Charge) 4 Slowpoke 3 Slowking Trainers 22 4 Gold Berry 4 Elm 3 Bill 3 Trader 4 Switch 2 Broken Ground Gym 2 Recall Energy 16 4 Double Colorless 6 Fighting 3 Rainbow 3 Metal [ October 12, 2002, 01:49 PM: Message edited by: Dark-Zapdos ] -------------------- Always play with a deck that looks good and u have fun playing, it just may win. 1st at Cedar Grove Sky SBZ 14th at Milford Sky SBZ 9th at Milford AQ SBZ DECKS: Poliwrath Plunge(AQ SBZ DECK)4 wins-2 loss-1 draw Poliwrath Plunge 2.0(SKY SBZ DECK) 6 wins-1 loss-2 draws including top 8 Last Player in my town and gonna be playin til there's no more tournaments in the world. Aim Mike042888 Email [email protected] From: CT | Registered: Jan 2002  |  IP: Logged Strike Member # 201 posted October 12, 2002 04:00 PM             if you want to beat a deck like that, you need to realize a few things... Steelix/Slowking is a great combo, but I think the deck runs a lot more efficently if you instead took out the lightning cards for colorless attackers like scyhter and chansey. looking at this deck take out all 3 buzzes and zappys and 1 onix. erm....on the other hand just go with this build. Pokemon:21 4 Slowpoke(rocket) 4 Slowking 3 cleffa 3 Onix 3 Steelix 2 Chansey 1 Pichu 1 Scyther/gligar Trainers:27 4 Oak 2 Copycat(also possible is a 3/3 oak/copycar build. If you do not have copycat, elm will do good as well or oak's research.) 4 Computer Search 3 Item finder 3 Lass 2 Gust of wind 1 Switch 3 Super Energy Removal 3 Gold Berry 2 Energy charge Energy:12 4 Recycle 4 Double Colorless 4 Metal With this build, the deck is much faster, but it still has to be treated with no mistakes, this deck cannot live on as many as 1 single mistake sometimes. Also some additional tips- Against a mostly basic pokemon haymaker, Using lass at the right time is key, usually during the first few turns or after a professor oak, or just whenever you feel it is best. Good luck regardless. -------------------- 3rd place WCSTS 2001 Day 1 15+ 1st place WCSC Professor Draft! 8th place Wizards/Professor Challenge at Worlds! SBZ Senior Champion- Mission Valley, Ca, Feb 15th, 2003 SBZ Champion- Mission Valley,CA May 24th, 2003 The Terror of San Diego! In a world of all the same decks, only the teched versions will win. Now a professor as well From: San Diego, Ca, Usa | Registered: Feb 2001  |  IP: Logged briman203 Member Member # 108567 posted October 15, 2002 04:04 PM             you could add 1 or 2 rockets snorlax or hitmonchan From: 604 Glen Park Lane | Registered: Oct 2002  |  IP: Logged dark_umbreon Member Member # 108573 posted October 16, 2002 03:27 AM             you could take out the steelix and onix put in some rockets hitmonchan. and some trainers -------------------- Vhat ~_^ "I don't fight punnie little girls like you."-Cheng Wufie "More testicles mean more iron!"-LunchLady Doris "Me so hungy!"-Homer "Once agian I'll be the god of death. But right know I need alittle sleep!!!"-Duo Maxwell I lost my DCI card...in my house ....i had such a good record.>_< From: 123FakeSt. | Registered: Oct 2002  |  IP: Logged ukpokemonpro Member # 518 posted October 16, 2002 03:48 AM             Sounds like you need sneasel slowking or Raindace with Articuno or a Cleaner with Arcanine and Lickitung.. I suggest you look up some old deck types and give them a go. My personal favorite .. InSaNitY -------------------- ukpokemonpro "a meaningless title is just that ... meaningless" "London Super Battlezone 2003" quote the judge... 'only joking' on misreported match results: DQ Yep its that serious! 14,000 deck boxes yeah we'll take all of them .... what have I done! Find the Pokemon League and Tournaments in Kent at:The Gamers Guild From: Gillingham, Kent, UK | Registered: Feb 2001  |  IP: Logged CPUSrchDiscarding2forOak Member # 37400 posted October 16, 2002 11:04 AM             How much removal is your GL running? If it isn't 4/4, you might want to run... Pokemon: 14 3 Cleffa 4 Jiggly 3 Wiggly 2 Scyther 2 Tyrogue (for Buzz) Trainers: 34 4 Professor Oak 4 Computer Search 3 Item Finder 3 Gust of Wind 3 Energy Removal 3 Super Energy Removal 3 Energy Stadium 3 Pluspower 2 Nightly Garbage Run 2 Lass 2 Gold Berry 1 Energy Charge 1 Switch Energy: 12 4 Grass 4 DCE 4 Recycle Why this deck? Ya already told us that Hitmonchan is not in the Haymaker. Highest damage his deck can do without Pluspower is 40 (Electabuzz). Most of his basics are 70 HP, so Wiggly PP KO. This deck really should cover all bases. -------------------- What, like the pro-archetype attitude is supposed to be restricted to THIS company, and THIS TCG? All card games run on archetypes. Magic is 90% archetypes. YGO is 90% archetypes. Pokemon was, for the most part, all archetypes before and during MF2. Pokemon will be archetype-based during MF3. Pokemon will be archetype based when it is under Nintendo. Viva la unoriginality! From: West Mifflin, PA | Registered: Aug 2001  |  IP: Logged Meganium45 Member # 99835 posted October 16, 2002 11:38 AM             Let's guarantee him a win, allright? Clefable/Sneasel with 4/4 removal line At that point you can use Electrabuzz or Rocket's Zappy as a backup hitter. Play at least 3 counter gyms to both no removal gyms, Sprout Towers and Chaos Gym. With a strategy such as this, you can take your box at the beginning of the game. God bless you clefable, only needing one energy. Good luck with it. Vince -------------------- "To Make a Difference, you have to be Different" Winner and parent of 6 year old winner (Little Duck) of Colinsville SBZ! Other son was the 9 year old winner May SBZ at Dragon King, the best place to play Pokemon in the Midwest! NOW 3 TROPHIES!!! THE MASTER PROFESSOR IN ST. LOUIS and TO too! Yipee! Gotta love St. Louis 8th, 9th and 10th and the Origins Professor Championship! (I was 9th :( ) Too bad we never have room for our bench - - lol. From: St. Louis, Missouri | Registered: Aug 2002  |  IP: Logged Golduck Member # 523 posted October 17, 2002 01:45 AM             Use Sneasel/King/Murkrow with 3/3 Removal line. Get out 3 King (Lass while building) and Mean look his Scyther. Remove Scyther's energy constantly, and he'll never get to attack you. You'll beat him easily (he doesn't play Metal, Muk or Iggly). And Elekid is no problem for Murkrow. Just attach a Goldberry, and it will take him an average of 10 turns to kill Murkrow. -------------------- Norwegian Championships - register here Have/Want list Visit Team Europe's new home page: TE v. 2.0 Be sure not to miss: Norwegian Championships 2003 From: Norway, in front of a Mac, designing the new TE homepage | Registered: Feb 2001  |  IP: Logged BANGINBOX Member # 68427 posted October 18, 2002 10:32 AM             if this is the standard, scyther, buzz, chan haymaker this could also work for you. i will not post a whole deck but this should give you a basic idea. 3 cleffa 3 onix 3 steelix 3 mewtwo promo 3 tyrouge this should be pretty simple to run. us speed, gust of wind, and gold berries. but dont forget to run 4 lass. you need to get this off first turn or you lose. jimmy -------------------- I am forever cursed to flip tails! I hold the record 21 in a row. Darn baby rule!@$ I got my hands on an electroflip. Look out babies! I'm comin for you! Damn must be BROKEN!@$% Don't forget theres a counter to every deck, and i'll find it! From: THE DARK SIDE OF THE MOON | Registered: Mar 2002  |  IP: Logged Sneasel101 Member Member # 102344 posted October 30, 2002 12:43 PM             Go right ahead and play zee slowking/rockets zap. hmmm, o o o o or just play your own leetle haymaker against it! -------------------- Visit Mah Saht: www.geocities.com/Snesel101 From: Nassau Ny | Registered: Aug 2002  |  IP: Logged g8trboi77 Member Member # 109873 posted November 02, 2002 01:41 PM            lol sneasel, that accent isnt funny, its scary. and zapdos, if you use meganium's method, instead of clefable, use switch/togepi promo. -------------------- ---------------------------------- "You are stupid, you are stupid, and don't forget, you are stupid." -Dexter "I don't suffer from insanity. I enjoy every minute of it." -Me Feraligatr's the Best!!! From: the discard pile | Registered: Oct 2002  |  IP: Logged mercad Member Member # 22435 posted November 05, 2002 05:43 PM             well heres my deck that hasnt lost so why not pokemon 18 4 Clefairy (neo 1 50HP) 4 Clefable 3 Cleffa (NG) 3 Scyther 2 Grimer (Fos) 2 Muk (Fos) Trainers 28 4 oak 4 comp search 4 SER 3 item finder 2 lass 4 plus power 3 focus band 4 gust energy 14 4 DCE 4 Recycle energy 6 grass maker will never stand a chance, only thing that even gets close to beating it is itself -------------------- Team Delibird Co-Leader "Don't be touching your little delibird" Buk Buk Merc: Gengar dont make me pull out the big guns DMTM: NO! don't he's my friend Gengar: GENGAR! Merc: Ok! Go DELIBIRD! Delibird: Deli... Delibird Merc: Delibird use present! Delibird: DELI! Gengar: ?_? Gengar: GENGAR! DMTM: Looks like were blasting off again From: Rancho Cucamunga, California, United States | Registered: May 2001  |  IP: Logged CPUSrchDiscarding2forOak Member # 37400 posted November 06, 2002 02:57 AM             Did you ever win the box of cards? -------------------- What, like the pro-archetype attitude is supposed to be restricted to THIS company, and THIS TCG? All card games run on archetypes. Magic is 90% archetypes. YGO is 90% archetypes. Pokemon was, for the most part, all archetypes before and during MF2. Pokemon will be archetype-based during MF3. Pokemon will be archetype based when it is under Nintendo. Viva la unoriginality! From: West Mifflin, PA | Registered: Aug 2001  |  IP: Logged Dark-Zapdos Member Member # 58372 posted November 07, 2002 10:13 AM            He pushed the time I play him too two more weeks so I still have time to keep play testing. right know I'm going for a sneasel/scyther/slowking deck with lots of energy removal and healing -------------------- Always play with a deck that looks good and u have fun playing, it just may win. 1st at Cedar Grove Sky SBZ 14th at Milford Sky SBZ 9th at Milford AQ SBZ DECKS: Poliwrath Plunge(AQ SBZ DECK)4 wins-2 loss-1 draw Poliwrath Plunge 2.0(SKY SBZ DECK) 6 wins-1 loss-2 draws including top 8 Last Player in my town and gonna be playin til there's no more tournaments in the world. Aim Mike042888 Email [email protected] From: CT | Registered: Jan 2002  |  IP: Logged CPUSrchDiscarding2forOak Member # 37400 posted November 07, 2002 10:25 AM             I am going to have to say I'm anti-Scyther here. Why? Scyther needs DCE to work effectively. DCE and Dark and Rainbow can fit in the same deck -- but not with Slowking and its support taking up as much space as it does. The Trainers will suffer, something you can't afford. That having been said, I will provide two decks: One Sneasel/Slowking, and one Sneasel/Slashtap, built around 0-1 retreat cost hitters (Sneasel, Scyther, Erika's Jiggly, etc.) Pokemon: 19 4 Cleffa 4 Sneasel 1 Murkrow 4 Slowpoke 4 Slowking 2 Pichu Trainers: 30 4 Lass 4 Computer Search 3 Professor Oak 3 Item Finder 3 Gust of Wind 3 Ecogym/No Removal Gym 3 Super Energy Removal 2 Energy Charge 2 Focus Band 2 Switch 1 Nightly Garbage Run Energy: 11 4 Darkness 4 Rainbow 3 Recycle For the above deck, use Ecogym if you want to feel safer (knowing your energies will come back), use No Removal Gym if you wish to cause your opponent to discard cards needlessly (Your opponent has to discard 2 cards to attempt to play that Removal card BEFORE the Slowking flip(s). If you get heads, their removal goes back and the 2 cards are still discarded. Use that to your advantage!) You said you wanted Scyther as well. If they're playing Hay, they're using Hitmonchan, the original Haymaker Pokemon. Scyther's perfect. It wouldn't fit in Slowking, but it fits here: Pokemon: 15 3 Cleffa 4 Sneasel 3 Scyther 3 Erika's Jigglypuff 2 Gligar Trainers: 31 4 Professor Oak 3 Computer Search 3 Item Finder 3 Lass 3 Focus Band 3 Double Gust (you have 0-1 retreaters. You can use this as either Gust OR switch.) 3 Super Energy Removal 3 Ecogym 3 Pluspower 2 Energy Charge 1 Nightly Garbage Run Energy: 14 4 Darkness 3 Rainbow 4 Double Colorless 3 Recycle The E. Jiggly/Pluspower is there for the possibility of FTKO. Considering that there is a high prize here (box of cards), why not go for the throat, and possibily win before your opponent picks up their first card? Basically everything in Snichu is here, save for the Pichu -- you yourself said your opponent is not running Slowking/D. Vile or other major powers, so the Pichu that are usually present are gone in favor of strengthing other Pokemon lines. Hope one of these works for you! -------------------- What, like the pro-archetype attitude is supposed to be restricted to THIS company, and THIS TCG? All card games run on archetypes. Magic is 90% archetypes. YGO is 90% archetypes. Pokemon was, for the most part, all archetypes before and during MF2. Pokemon will be archetype-based during MF3. Pokemon will be archetype based when it is under Nintendo. Viva la unoriginality! From: West Mifflin, PA | Registered: Aug 2001  |  IP: Logged Dark-Zapdos Member Member # 58372 posted November 07, 2002 10:41 AM            He is using straight Buzz/Scyther/Magmar/Elekid and 4/4 energy removal lines -------------------- Always play with a deck that looks good and u have fun playing, it just may win. 1st at Cedar Grove Sky SBZ 14th at Milford Sky SBZ 9th at Milford AQ SBZ DECKS: Poliwrath Plunge(AQ SBZ DECK)4 wins-2 loss-1 draw Poliwrath Plunge 2.0(SKY SBZ DECK) 6 wins-1 loss-2 draws including top 8 Last Player in my town and gonna be playin til there's no more tournaments in the world. Aim Mike042888 Email [email protected] From: CT | Registered: Jan 2002  |  IP: Logged mkymws Member Member # 2337 posted November 09, 2002 12:04 AM             *poof* 4 f. magmar 4 j. scyther 4 r. machop 4 r. squirtle 4 pro oak 4 cmp srch 4 pls pwr 3 rsa 3 nrg rmvl 3 gust o win 2 grbg run 2 itm fndr 2 lass 5 fire e. 4 fhe 4 dce 4 rnbw e. cheap, effective. later [ November 09, 2002, 07:20 AM: Message edited by: mkymws ] -------------------- jovial evil From: orange islands | Registered: Mar 2001  |  IP: Logged

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