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Topic: Metallic Sludge(mmf)
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Light-Umbreon
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posted August 01, 2002 03:00 PM
I was looking through my binder(where most of my ideas come from) and discovered that 2 cards could work really well together. Scizor(promo) and muk. Scizor can be my attacker(unlimited damage..sweet), and Muk helps stop those pesky pkmn powerz that are so often used in the format. here's the deck:
3-Scyther(promo)
3-Scizor(promo)
3-Grimer(LC)
3-Muk(LC)
2-Cleffa
2-Tyrouge
16-Pokemon
4-Elm
4-Bill
4-teleporter
3-Trader
2-Focus Band
2-Gold Berry
2-magnifier
1-baloon berry
1-energy Stadium/lucky stadium
4-Double Gust
1-Time capsule
28-Trainers
16-Energy
4-metal
12-Grass
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Drakeo
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posted August 01, 2002 03:42 PM
Interesting but there's just ONE teensy weensy problem. Fire would eat this alive.
-4 Bill's Teleporter ![[Dubious]](graemlins/dubious.gif)
+2 Lilypad Mew ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
+1 Cleffa
+1 Trader
-1 stadium
+1 Focus Band
-1 Balloon Berry
+1 Gold Berry
An unusual idea, tell me how it does.
Hope this helps it abit.
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Dark Ho-oh
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posted August 02, 2002 12:36 PM
I seen Lily Pad Mews teched in everywhere and without Psychic energies you know what happens to them? They get Locked!
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Whizkiddo
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posted August 05, 2002 10:08 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Dark Ho-oh:
I seen Lily Pad Mews teched in everywhere and without Psychic energies you know what happens to them? They get Locked!
Even with Psychic Energy it gets locked...so whats the matter of Techin in 1 ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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blackhawkhiro
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posted August 06, 2002 06:58 AM
Kool deck LU. Perhaps another Energy/Lucky Stadium? IM me if you have any problems...
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Light-Umbreon
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posted August 07, 2002 08:12 AM
thanx for da replies. I'm gonna playtest soon. I have cards i have to get before i playtest.
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M asterTJ
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posted August 08, 2002 01:55 PM
This Deck would get eaten alive by Lily Pad Mew or Fire. I don't see much of a combo here either. There's no real connection between these two. That's like slapping Poliwrath and Fossil Dragonite into a deck and calling it a combo. It's pretty non-connected. Anyway, there's to much weakness to this deck so consider comboing Scizor with some water guy such as Feraligatr or anything.
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Light-Umbreon
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posted August 09, 2002 03:17 PM
hey every1....unfortuneately, i must introduce my freind masterTJ to the boards. He likes dissing decks if they're not his. And i beat him w/this deck anyway. ![[Devilish]](graemlins/diablo.gif) He only won in a unofficial 3-way battle format. don't take his comments seriously though, he's just kidding. newayz, keep the replies coming.
DISCLAIMER: i am not responsible for master TJ's childish and foolish actions.
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Pikith
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posted August 09, 2002 03:30 PM
Fire would not completly slaughter this. Think about it, Muk = no Fire Recharge or Howl
Maybe TecH Wooper or Qwilfish to help out against fire.
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Psychic_Prof
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posted August 09, 2002 03:42 PM
...plus, only Scyther (and Scizor) are weak to fire. You run the risk of fire anytime you use a grass deck. Not even half the pokemon in this deck are weak.
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MastaPete
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posted August 09, 2002 04:13 PM
Take out the Promo Scisors for the Neo Discovery ones. Oh yeah by the way Fire will slaugter this with Double Gust send up Muk (Macargo takes only 3 turns to power up) KO it and then go to town on there pokemon. Like my deck Fire Re-Cargo. So with the Discovery Scisors you can do 40 damage to Entei and Magcargo and 50 to Typlosion. For only one Metal.
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Light-Umbreon
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posted August 09, 2002 04:24 PM
the sadness of that is that scizor neo2 duzn't have a depndable damaging KO attack. false swipe is good and all, but it's not worth false swipe's ability not to KO the defending and a cruddy, cruddy 2nd attack. If it was 20+ like it was supposed to be i'de use it.
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DARK_PIDGEOT
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posted August 09, 2002 08:38 PM
actually Pikith sorry to say muk does not stop howl which makes the card even more broken. but anyway i agree that this deck doesn't have a good enough combo to win it would prolly be a fun deck to play around with, but not to win a tourny unless people play heavy pokemon power decks in your area. in MMF the decks that are going to win will be the fastest(entei/cargo, amphy) or the swarm decks (kingdra, kabutops) also a good pokemon with slowking will always do good as you could see from worlds. slowking will be a beast in MMF. if you stop someone from playing the little trainers there are in MMF then you lock them into one card per turn and thats just devestating to a deck. now personally i always liked dark scizor because he can use both special nrgs without the drawbacks. now him with slowking could stomp through some decks, but might be a little to slow for entei/cargo. but its up to you just playtest round to see what you like. well thats my 2 cents, peace out!
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posted August 10, 2002 06:23 PM
oh jeez. my original MMF idea wuz alaking, and now every1's saying it rockz. but if u'll notice, muk would stop slowking. tyrouge takes care of amphy. and what r u suggesting?? that every just play entei cargo and get it over with??? archtype players, such narrow minded, mimicing fools. but what if, in most cases, if the opponent isn't suprisingly lucky, won't howl discard valuable cards. my only prob is kingdra prolly. mebe lilypad mew or elekid culd solve that problem. mebe even take the plunge and use genesis buzz???
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Pikith
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posted August 10, 2002 07:46 PM
Toxic Gas doesn't stop Howl?!?! ![[Frown]](frown.gif) ![[NoNoNo]](graemlins/nonono.gif)
Is it a Pokemon Power? Yes.
That should've been the easiest ruling decision ever. I mean Magby's Sputter is one thing, it has to be activated and then affects X pokemon for X turns, but Toxic Gas was always on..
(I checked TC though, U R right)
Oh well, I guess I'll just have to literally 'ignore' howl like Muk's card tells me to ![[ROFL]](graemlins/roflmao.gif)
[edit] Use NG Pikachu as Kingdra TecH, it has the 10 or 30 Quick Atk for 1 (C), you can waste Kingdra's early evos with him [/edit]
[ August 10, 2002, 08:33 PM: Message edited by: Pikith ]
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Light-Umbreon
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posted August 11, 2002 08:58 AM
pikith, u live near orland park?? dats where i used 2 live. newayz, so NG pika is my best bet for kingdra tech??? most of the types are covered, but fire isn't much of a threat w/o typhlo, cuz entei might not be helpful. pika duz average the same as buzz w/ 1 less NRG, but is it worth 20 less HP??? i'll try that to see how it duz. the reason muk is so powerful in MMF i think is that MMF is a format utilizing pokemon powers, and muk can leave them doing nothing but have sitting ducks waiting to be sludged or cut up
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Pikith
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posted August 11, 2002 09:41 AM
Yeah, Pika is good b/c you don't have to put him on the bench at all until you need him, you can slap him down, stick an energy on him and attack all in 1 turn.
W/ 'Buzz they'd see it coming, b/c he needs 2 (C).
And if they are play the NG Horsea, you'd have to hit them twice with 'Buzz since it has 50HP instead of the LC one's 40, or you hit it with Quick Atk and hope you get heads for the OHKO
[edit] I live around River Grove, River Forest, and Oak Park, if u have heard of those towns, I don't think I've heard of Orland Park though.. [/edit]
[ August 11, 2002, 09:43 AM: Message edited by: Pikith ]
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