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Zapdos10
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posted May 24, 2002 06:40 PM      Profile for Zapdos10      Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
I've been playin' this deck for a while now, and it is purely EVIL. Once you get your attacker out it's all downhill from there for your opponent. It's only lost once to a deck that my team's been workin' on, and that deck's a secret until worlds. Anywayz, here's what the deck looks like:

Pokemon:14
4x Pillowswine (Neo 3)
4x Swinub (Neo 3)
4x Cleffa
2x Pichu

Energy:14
4x Metal Energy
10x Fighting Energy

Trainers:32
4x Energy Charge
4x Professor Elm
4x Bill
4x Double Gust
4x Gold Berry
4x Balloon Berry
4x Breeder Fields
3x Healing Fields
1x Time Capsule

Strategy: Use Pilloswine's Nap Attack in conjuction with Healing Fields, Gold Berry, and Metal Energy to keep him alive and well, until you can High Speed-Charge, then use Double Gust or Balloon Berry to end the once every other turn rule, and do it all over again. The deck is very strong. Whatcha think?

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posted May 24, 2002 06:43 PM      Profile for ilc   Email ilc    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Bill.. Is LC out already!! Hmm pretty neat Iused to play this kinna deck to some F.Band

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posted May 24, 2002 07:12 PM      Profile for Thunder Blast   Email Thunder Blast    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Huh, this Deck follows the same strategy as my Big Lightning Deck does. Hit'em really hard then Retreat for free with Balloon Berry. I like your thinking. But let me see if I can improve upon your great Deck.

Energy 16
4 Metal Energy
12 Fighting Energy

Pokemon 15
4 Pillowswine (Neo Revelation)
4 Swinub (Neo Revelation)
3 Cleffa (Neo Genesis)
2 Pichu (Neo Genesis)
2 Magby

Trainers 29
4 Professor Elm
4 Bill
3 Pokemon Trader
3 Double Gust
4 Gold Berry
4 Balloon Berry
2 Energy Charge
3 Healing Fields
2 Time Capsule

There really wasn't that much to change. You've done this Deck very well. It does play more Trainers than I particularly like to use but, that's OK. I didn't see a point for a fourth Cleffa (Neo Genesis), or four Energy Charge. If you need four Energy charge then there is something wrong with your Deck. In any case, two should be enough. I put in Magby as a Grass attaker because I expect to see a lot of Exeggutor/Meganium Decks running around. And I added one more Time Capsule, just in case. The Extra Fighting Energy are there just because I couldn't think of anything else to add.

Again, you have a really strong Deck here. I hope you plan on playing it in a Big Tournament because you'll surely win.

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posted May 24, 2002 08:00 PM      Profile for rockets zapdos6669   Email rockets zapdos6669    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Nice deck like the one that was createdc by me not the one you use (they piloswine deck it was quite good same stragey) if i can think add some steelix in there to help it cuase i tried it rocks

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posted May 25, 2002 05:42 AM      Profile for Strife126   Email Strife126    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
i like this deck. i have just like it, but still in the planning ang Apprentice stage. my fixes are:

-1 Cleffa (3 in a deck are enough)
-1 Energy Charge (it isn't really needed here, Metal isn't that necessary)
-2 Breeder Fields (with sufficient drawing power it isn't needed much)

+4 Focus Band (additional survival, great with Gold Berry)

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posted May 25, 2002 08:14 AM      Profile for TwutT   Email TwutT    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Go with Strife126's fix, there are/will be lots of grassdecks out there (and I think piloswine's weakness is grass), like crobat, muk, nidoking, ect, so you really need focus bands. And 4 Cleffa may be too much ... They'll be taken by Murkrow ...

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posted May 25, 2002 08:50 PM      Profile for Zapdos10      Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Don't you understand that 4 Cleffa is a MUST in all MMF decks. because of the loss of SIGNIFICANT draw you need Breeder Fields and MAX CLEFFA. If you play un focused your deck will be unfocused. I don't plan on seeing many Grass decks out there. I do believe that 4 Energy Charge is a bit much, so I think I'm going to take one out for a Time Capsule. Remember SOLIDITY is the key. If you don't have that, then you can't predict your deck. If you can't predict your own deck, there's no use in playing. NEwayz, thanx for all your help and support guys. [Wink]

[ May 25, 2002, 08:52 PM: Message edited by: Zapdos10 ]

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posted May 25, 2002 10:01 PM      Profile for d1andonly   Email d1andonly    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
This deck as too very few caught my attention and the mechanic is simple and perhaps a little too simple.I would add the steelix and water swinub and light piloswine to a stronger defense parimeter to look something like this: Pokemon:16
2 Swinub (Neo 3) 2 Swinub (Neo Destiny) 3Pillowswine (Neo 3) 1 Light Piloswine (N.Dest.)
3 Onix (Islands)
2 Steelix (Neo Genesis)
3 Cleffa

Energy:16
4x Metal Energy
7x Fighting Energy
5x Water Energy
Trainers:28
2x Energy Charge
3x Professor Elm
4x Bill
4x Double Gust
4x Gold Berry
3x Balloon Berry
3x Heal Powder
3x Healing Fields
1x Time Capsule
1x Super Energy Retrieval

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posted May 26, 2002 06:43 AM      Profile for Strife126   Email Strife126    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
actually, u can expect some Grass decks out there, like Crobat (if it will still be used) and specially Venucenter or Veniumcenter.

of course, if in some way u could add a few Steelix to the deck, it would be that much more SOLID.

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posted May 26, 2002 09:44 AM      Profile for Rocket's Sandshrew   Email Rocket's Sandshrew    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Steelix? Nah...dont' add another evo and take away from the speed. I see big fire being huge in MMF. But you are grass weak, and also running metal energy, so my advice is to tecH one NG skarmory, and against a grass deck, you can play it once with 2 metals, time capsule it back, and play it with 2 metals again...not to mention it's solid support against any other non-fire. I think it would help a lot.

Props for originality, and good luck.

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posted May 26, 2002 10:08 AM      Profile for Zapdos10      Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Hey, thanx for the help Sandshrew! I'll definitly try that. I think I'll take out an Energy Charge for the Skarmory. Thanx! [Wink]

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posted May 26, 2002 01:42 PM      Profile for GoldMaster   Email GoldMaster    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Hey Zapdos,

Interesting deck...I think the trainer can be tweaked some =\

First drop two energy charge, they juat aren't that needed. Then DROP THE 4TH CLEFFA, you DON'T need max cleffa, there ARE still good draw power cards out there, and cleffa is both BAIT and WASTES an ENERGY. 3 is fine..

I'd also drop at least two breeder fields...there are better cards.

In these five slots, add 3 pokemon trader (solid card) and 2 focusbands (babies, grass, magcargo etc.).

Next, drop a healing fields for a tech NG skarmory to combat grass...it will help considerably.

Pokemon:14
4x Pillowswine (Neo 3)
4x Swinub (Neo 3)
3x Cleffa
2x Pichu
1x NG Skarmory

Energy:14
4x Metal Energy
10x Fighting Energy

Trainers:32
2x Energy Charge
4x Professor Elm
4x Bill
4x Double Gust
4x Gold Berry
4x Balloon Berry
3x Pokemon Trader
2x Focus Band
2x Breeder Fields
2x Healing Fields
1x Time Capsule

Hope that helps!
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