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Topic: Hard Pillows (MMF) The next contender
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Zapdos10
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posted May 24, 2002 06:40 PM
I've been playin' this deck for a while now, and it is purely EVIL. Once you get your attacker out it's all downhill from there for your opponent. It's only lost once to a deck that my team's been workin' on, and that deck's a secret until worlds. Anywayz, here's what the deck looks like:
Pokemon:14 4x Pillowswine (Neo 3) 4x Swinub (Neo 3) 4x Cleffa 2x Pichu
Energy:14 4x Metal Energy 10x Fighting Energy
Trainers:32 4x Energy Charge 4x Professor Elm 4x Bill 4x Double Gust 4x Gold Berry 4x Balloon Berry 4x Breeder Fields 3x Healing Fields 1x Time Capsule
Strategy: Use Pilloswine's Nap Attack in conjuction with Healing Fields, Gold Berry, and Metal Energy to keep him alive and well, until you can High Speed-Charge, then use Double Gust or Balloon Berry to end the once every other turn rule, and do it all over again. The deck is very strong. Whatcha think?
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ilc
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posted May 24, 2002 06:43 PM
Bill.. Is LC out already!! Hmm pretty neat Iused to play this kinna deck to some F.Band
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Thunder Blast
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posted May 24, 2002 07:12 PM
Huh, this Deck follows the same strategy as my Big Lightning Deck does. Hit'em really hard then Retreat for free with Balloon Berry. I like your thinking. But let me see if I can improve upon your great Deck.
Energy 16 4 Metal Energy 12 Fighting Energy
Pokemon 15 4 Pillowswine (Neo Revelation) 4 Swinub (Neo Revelation) 3 Cleffa (Neo Genesis) 2 Pichu (Neo Genesis) 2 Magby
Trainers 29 4 Professor Elm 4 Bill 3 Pokemon Trader 3 Double Gust 4 Gold Berry 4 Balloon Berry 2 Energy Charge 3 Healing Fields 2 Time Capsule
There really wasn't that much to change. You've done this Deck very well. It does play more Trainers than I particularly like to use but, that's OK. I didn't see a point for a fourth Cleffa (Neo Genesis), or four Energy Charge. If you need four Energy charge then there is something wrong with your Deck. In any case, two should be enough. I put in Magby as a Grass attaker because I expect to see a lot of Exeggutor/Meganium Decks running around. And I added one more Time Capsule, just in case. The Extra Fighting Energy are there just because I couldn't think of anything else to add.
Again, you have a really strong Deck here. I hope you plan on playing it in a Big Tournament because you'll surely win.
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From: Sophia, NC | Registered: Oct 2001
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rockets zapdos6669
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posted May 24, 2002 08:00 PM
Nice deck like the one that was createdc by me not the one you use (they piloswine deck it was quite good same stragey) if i can think add some steelix in there to help it cuase i tried it rocks
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Strife126
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posted May 25, 2002 05:42 AM
i like this deck. i have just like it, but still in the planning ang Apprentice stage. my fixes are:
-1 Cleffa (3 in a deck are enough) -1 Energy Charge (it isn't really needed here, Metal isn't that necessary) -2 Breeder Fields (with sufficient drawing power it isn't needed much)
+4 Focus Band (additional survival, great with Gold Berry)
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TwutT
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posted May 25, 2002 08:14 AM
Go with Strife126's fix, there are/will be lots of grassdecks out there (and I think piloswine's weakness is grass), like crobat, muk, nidoking, ect, so you really need focus bands. And 4 Cleffa may be too much ... They'll be taken by Murkrow ...
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From: Kongeriket Norge | Registered: Nov 2001
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Zapdos10
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posted May 25, 2002 08:50 PM
Don't you understand that 4 Cleffa is a MUST in all MMF decks. because of the loss of SIGNIFICANT draw you need Breeder Fields and MAX CLEFFA. If you play un focused your deck will be unfocused. I don't plan on seeing many Grass decks out there. I do believe that 4 Energy Charge is a bit much, so I think I'm going to take one out for a Time Capsule. Remember SOLIDITY is the key. If you don't have that, then you can't predict your deck. If you can't predict your own deck, there's no use in playing. NEwayz, thanx for all your help and support guys. [ May 25, 2002, 08:52 PM: Message edited by: Zapdos10 ]
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From: Modesto,Ca. | Registered: Aug 2001
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d1andonly
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posted May 25, 2002 10:01 PM
This deck as too very few caught my attention and the mechanic is simple and perhaps a little too simple.I would add the steelix and water swinub and light piloswine to a stronger defense parimeter to look something like this: Pokemon:16 2 Swinub (Neo 3) 2 Swinub (Neo Destiny) 3Pillowswine (Neo 3) 1 Light Piloswine (N.Dest.) 3 Onix (Islands) 2 Steelix (Neo Genesis) 3 Cleffa
Energy:16 4x Metal Energy 7x Fighting Energy 5x Water Energy Trainers:28 2x Energy Charge 3x Professor Elm 4x Bill 4x Double Gust 4x Gold Berry 3x Balloon Berry 3x Heal Powder 3x Healing Fields 1x Time Capsule 1x Super Energy Retrieval
From: ct. | Registered: May 2002
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Strife126
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posted May 26, 2002 06:43 AM
actually, u can expect some Grass decks out there, like Crobat (if it will still be used) and specially Venucenter or Veniumcenter.
of course, if in some way u could add a few Steelix to the deck, it would be that much more SOLID.
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Rocket's Sandshrew
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posted May 26, 2002 09:44 AM
Steelix? Nah...dont' add another evo and take away from the speed. I see big fire being huge in MMF. But you are grass weak, and also running metal energy, so my advice is to tecH one NG skarmory, and against a grass deck, you can play it once with 2 metals, time capsule it back, and play it with 2 metals again...not to mention it's solid support against any other non-fire. I think it would help a lot.
Props for originality, and good luck.
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Zapdos10
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posted May 26, 2002 10:08 AM
Hey, thanx for the help Sandshrew! I'll definitly try that. I think I'll take out an Energy Charge for the Skarmory. Thanx!
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GoldMaster
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posted May 26, 2002 01:42 PM
Hey Zapdos,
Interesting deck...I think the trainer can be tweaked some =\
First drop two energy charge, they juat aren't that needed. Then DROP THE 4TH CLEFFA, you DON'T need max cleffa, there ARE still good draw power cards out there, and cleffa is both BAIT and WASTES an ENERGY. 3 is fine..
I'd also drop at least two breeder fields...there are better cards.
In these five slots, add 3 pokemon trader (solid card) and 2 focusbands (babies, grass, magcargo etc.).
Next, drop a healing fields for a tech NG skarmory to combat grass...it will help considerably.
Pokemon:14 4x Pillowswine (Neo 3) 4x Swinub (Neo 3) 3x Cleffa 2x Pichu 1x NG Skarmory
Energy:14 4x Metal Energy 10x Fighting Energy
Trainers:32 2x Energy Charge 4x Professor Elm 4x Bill 4x Double Gust 4x Gold Berry 4x Balloon Berry 3x Pokemon Trader 2x Focus Band 2x Breeder Fields 2x Healing Fields 1x Time Capsule
Hope that helps! ~Gold
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From: Chandler, AZ, USA | Registered: Feb 2001
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