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Topic: What's the source of the Expedition "Sample" cards
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Raikou
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posted October 27, 2002 11:11 AM
even though the seller claims these cards are real, they looks somewhat fake...if the rest of the card scanned out good why is it that just the bottom and some of teh attack text is messed up badly? i think its because someone tried to use a sucky program to type in info there...plus koffing is not 4/93 anyways...
perhaps these are real...but even if they were..82 dollars for a gastly? come on =\
and also if they were real...they probably have connections with someone at wotc or something...sample cards? id really like to think that only an employee could've gotten hishands on these =\
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Joshman
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posted October 27, 2002 11:17 AM
Looks fake to me. I'm no nick15, but the things I found wrong with just the Gastly was the spacing between the HP, the font of it's attack, and the copyright info.
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kingkyle
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posted October 27, 2002 11:53 AM
Nope, they're real. My gym leader has 1. ![[Smile]](../tcg/smile.gif)
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Soslowpoke
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posted October 27, 2002 12:36 PM
I believe they came from E3...not positive though.
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-Snorlax King-
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posted October 27, 2002 12:50 PM
i agree with Raikou , the attrack and hp are not spaced out properly and just beacasue your bym leader has one doesnt mean their real.they look like the originals in american,go to www.pokecorner.com and look up expedition gastly and youll find what im talking bout.i wuld say their fake,it looks seriously like something made with paint shop pro 7,i have it myself...i could take the oringinal card and make it look just like that one.cya g2g to youth
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Gengar094
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posted October 28, 2002 09:23 AM
(I think) It's a fake made to look like the E3 and Tropical Mega Battle E and VS cards (The English cards that aren't made by WotC are all with wrong fonts and spacing).
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PokePop
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posted October 28, 2002 10:35 AM
From the seller's description:
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The card is legitimate and has the anti-counterfeit center.
I have never heard of this card, but I do know that WotC had to prove to Nintendo that it could manufacture the e-cards properly. Maybe this is a test run for that. I also know that TPC wanted WotC to use the new backs and WotC had to push back on that, so if these were made early on in the negotiations, it may have been before TPC agreed to let WotC keep the American backs.
If your card has the anti-counterfeit center (a layer of black paper sandwiched between the white layers), that would be pretty good proof of their being genuine.
Again, I have heard nothing about these cards existance from WotC. If I had, I probably would have to keep my mouth shut about them, like another card that I can't talk about... ![[Wink]](../tcg/wink.gif)
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dooskoop
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posted October 28, 2002 02:54 PM
The card I have does have the black anti-counterfeit center and it scans in my card-reader just fine. The eBay seller I got it from has very good feedback and sells great quantities of Pokemon cards. So far, she's sold 8 different Sample cards on 9 different auctions (2 of the cards were Pichu samples). I think she has connections with someone at NY's Pokemon Center. I need friends like that...
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posted October 30, 2002 02:23 PM
those look so fake the only sample cards are the ones at the e-reader displays and they don't have sample at the bottom and the have a hole in them.
geebas that gastly cards flunked everyone knows the attack description starts under the begining of the name of the attack and after if tails there's a period the hp as mentioned before isen't spaced
the id says m-19-# when it realy is b-19-# those cards are fake.sorry if you spent 80 somthin dollars ![[NoNoNo]](../tcg/graemlins/nonono.gif)
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DMTM
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posted October 31, 2002 11:31 AM
They are not our cards. Upon close examination and discussions so far they are missing the correct trade mark as well as the type setting being off.
It looks like they are most likely fakes.
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PokePop
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posted October 31, 2002 04:39 PM
Bad news if fakes have the black card layer!
Makes them real hard to spot.
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posted October 31, 2002 04:41 PM
wow a staff member ![[Eek!]](../tcg/eek.gif) i knew they where fake you got riped man that sucks
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yoshi1001
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posted October 31, 2002 04:49 PM
Well, it figures they'd try to improve their counterfeiting technology. Still, the cards are substantially below par. Remember, always keep an eye out for things that might indicate the card is fake.
[ October 31, 2002, 04:51 PM: Message edited by: yoshi1001 ]
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nick15
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posted November 07, 2002 10:22 PM
It's most definately not a Wizards card. But it doesn't mean it's not real. On closer examination, the copyright information (© Pokémon) and the Illustrator information resembles that of a Japanese card.
As in the Japanese info looks like:
© Pokémon Illus. Ken Japan
While the Wizards info looks like:
© 2002 Pokémon / Nintendo Illus. Joe America
Note the differences between the two; the Japanese one lacks a date and has the illustrator text in italics. .... And not to mention that Expedition was 165 cards, over the 93 listed on Gastly.
We all are familiar with the fact that TPC just LOVES to emulate Wizards' style, so this is undoubtedly a card made by TPC. The card-e strips were most likely supplied by Nintendo of America, as Wizards doesn't make their own (they just provide the basic card information and the folks at Nintendo do the rest).
Moral? It's real, but Wizards didn't make it. TPC did, and the codes were supplied by Nintendo.
[edit: Just noting that this is an educated guess by nick. No inside info is available - Pop]
(Kinda makes you think that TPC went behind Wizards back to make these. I wonder how many of these were made.....)
[ November 07, 2002, 11:48 PM: Message edited by: PokePop ]
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nick15
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posted November 08, 2002 11:20 AM
PokePop:
I would like to take this opportunity of complaining about the way in which these debates are continually portraying people who make pat diagnoses of "fake" cards without first obtaining the card's full history.
Mind you, that's just a pat diagnosis made without first obtaining the card's full history.
yoshi1001:
I feel the time has come to complain about people who make rash complaints without first making sure that those complaints are justified.
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[ November 08, 2002, 11:22 AM: Message edited by: nick15 ]
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PokePop
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posted November 08, 2002 01:29 PM
You lost me there, nick.
I'm not disputing your skill or whether you are right or not. I just wanted it to be clear that it was your personal assessment and not a representation of WotC. Since you have the Mod title there under your name, we need to be clear about that.
Just as my assessment about is noted as solely mine.
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nick15
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posted November 08, 2002 01:36 PM
Oh sorry, I probably should have been more clear in the previous post. Sorry once again.
Anyways, yes, it was just a guesstimation by me (Philippe Van Lieu). Not an official proclamation to any extent.
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DMTM
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posted November 08, 2002 04:23 PM
Your right because I have already given the official proclomation. They are not our cards. Ours being WotC. ![[Evil Smirk]](../tcg/graemlins/Up_to.gif)
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