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old man

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posted January 23, 2003 09:16 AM      Profile for old man   Email old man    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
I am disgusted, aggravated, disappointed & dumbfounded to the point where I’m asking myself “What’s the use? & What did I do?”

I started TO’ing almost 2 years ago in order to help promote DCI play.
I have seen judges at Premiere events who really didn’t know a thing a bout Pokemon make terrible calls.
I became a Professor then a Master Professor last year, once available, so that I might be given a chance to hold a WotC sponsored event at some future time.
I have seen several other Premiere event TO’s make a jerk of them self or run ramshackle events.
What do I have to do in order to be allowed to run a WotC sponsored event, even if it’s nothing bigger than a SBZ?
I have held well over 100 sanction POKEMON events in the last 2 years.
I have helped judge at other QT’s this last year.
I was on the deck check team at the CSC last year.
I also did my turn at World’s this last year.
I do not own, manage or even work at a place that has a Pokemon league.
Now after seeing this partial list of SBZ locations I have just about had it.

Before I go any further let me say that, yes, my son & I have been playing that other game, YGO, in the last 3-4 months, to fill in the void that Pokemon has left in us since Worlds. We like competition & strive to do better each time, (which we do). I am not here to debate the 2 different card games but to wonder why I would still want to play Pokemon.

Much of my aggravation comes from the location of the SBZ nearest me. It’s about 7 miles away, but it isn’t the store I choose to play at for a number of different reasons that I don’t want to go into here. One of my biggest problems with the chosen location is that that store has NEVER ran a SANCTIONED Pokemon tournament. Yes, they run un-sanctioned ones using the DCI software, they run Battlezone & they run Sanctioned Magic events. The TO of the event is also the owner of the store, (I believe), and is a nice guy that I really have no problem with. This store also has had no Professors of any kind come from there & has only had unlimited & theme deck tournaments.

My problem is why did WotC pick this store & this TO when another location in the metro area has had Sanctioned Pokemon tournaments for almost 2 years now, has 3 Master Professors, (also TO’s) & 2 Professors, with others working on becoming a Professor. “Our store” also has a lot more space for players & non-players and is just as easy to get to & find as the other. Yes, our store had league since the start of them & also runs Battlezone with sanctioned tournaments & have always had more players. Could this be why the other location was chosen? So that it would increase players there? I WILL NOT get into the other plusses & minuses of each store as I may not be privy to all the facts. But could this be something that “our” store has done?

I don’t thinks it’s the quality of player we have either. We’ve had 2 or 3 win trips to go to the STS’s & this last year we had 4 win trips to Worlds. All 4 made the cut the first day, then didn’t do quite so well the 2nd. But my Son did enter into the 2nd Theme deck challenge & won it. We are waiting on his box of aqaupolis now.

I’m just about to the point of giving up of continuing with Pokemon & may get out of it anyway since my son turns 15 later this year. That’s another reason why I was hoping to get to run this SBZ, as I really don’t believe WotC/DCI would let a person run a GC QT without proving their self first in a smaller event.

In the past I’ve never been one to get into such a frenzy wanting information & wanting it now as I do realize that some things do take time & cannot be revealed until the time is right. I’ve also never been one to jump on the bandwagon to counter each decision made my WotC, as I can see from their shoes as well. TO A POINT! I’ve never been really vocal about a lot of things on the board here but instead choose to read while occasionally giving my input. And as you can tell I am member #28 so I’ve been around a while.

I really don’t expect an answer from someone in the know and I’m really just venting here, but can someone give me their thoughts about this?
What about the other SBZ locations? Are they being ran only by store owner/TO’s?
Has any Professors or Master Professors that don’t own a shop been asked to run a battlezone? If not then are we only good to WotC at their bigger events? Are they just using us to help fend off other CCG’s? Like I said before I’m not here to debate WotC vs. Other Company, but right now I’m feeling pretty ticked off by this!

No I don't think this will get me banned but I do feel some sort of censure coming!

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posted January 23, 2003 09:25 AM      Profile for IPGeek21   Email IPGeek21    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
WHY does everyone expect to get BANNED or censured?
C'mon WE know what does and this not qualify as such.

Old man NO ONE IN THEIR right mind will TOUCH YOU!!!

I feel your pain.

I KNOW what you have done for your area & KNOW what skywolf has done for HIS!!!

HE did get a SBZ in his store... you did not?
Can't say why, can't say why not...

AFter seeing the 1st few SBZ location I fear WHICH location in SoCal will get it... WE HAVE HAD no HUGE event in our area so I AM VERY puzzled as to WHO COULD POSSIBLY accommodate 50 people...

I worry, there is a place I MYSELF HAVE never been too because if their 'practices'... AND if they do THEY better follow the Law to a T or... no way will I LET any pokemon event not RUN the way it should be or hee hee there are many profs here who would make sure also [Wink] .

Yep, there has been a void... there have been other games out there...

PLEASE DO NOT FEEL jilted, although it may be only natural... ESPECIALLY after meeting you and ALL THOSE other Profs from your area, and *gulp* al those TOURNEYS!!

MTM did say that LOCATIONS not chosen this time around may be chosen next time...

IF I would have known THAT STORES were being chosen I WOULD have tried to lobby for locations here WHO HAVE supported pokemon.

You know the process... email custserv ... but no way does MTM have to answer our queries... internal issues, nda, etc.

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posted January 23, 2003 09:42 AM      Profile for Meganium45   Email Meganium45    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Old Man, just coming to join a voice in the crowd.

I feel that the wrong location for the St. Louis area was chosen as well, but, heh, I am looking at this a bit differently.

Myself and the other members of Team Ream will all now get to play. I do not have to stress worrying about set up, or players mouthing off. I run events quite often, including several draft tourneys, and we are starting Battlezone, although we have had the stuff on order for months.

I was a bit troubled, as being a TO, and a Master Professor, and a delegate as well, that I was not contacted in any way regarding this. I know the St. Louis area, and most of the big players. I ran the first major cash tourney in the midwest that gave out over 80% of the fees back to the players as prizes.

At the end of the day, I look at it this way, I get to play in this one! (Talk about a disincentive for me to sanction the warmup tourneys!)

I have a feeling that, being unlimited, you will have the same problem that I am, needing to track down 12 Super Removal, Computer search, Oak, after playing MF for so long!

See you on the boards, and hopefully at a large upcoming event!

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posted January 23, 2003 10:54 AM      Profile for LizardOTC      Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Well, I would settle for simply having one of these in my state. Here in Wisconsin, we have had only one STS Qualifier, and no other Premiere Tournaments outside of GenCon, which has moved out of state. I have been running 2 sanctioned tourneys per month, but not for long enough to garner notice.

As of now, I have a 2-hour drive to Chicago, and I know that they will quickly fill the 50 spots there. The silver lining is that I may get to play, for once. I wish I had had the partial information before BZ last night, as many of my players were asking, and many of the parents were saying, "well, if you still don't know, then we'll have to make other plans." Most of my players do not go to message boards...

[ January 23, 2003, 10:56 AM: Message edited by: LizardOTC ]

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posted January 23, 2003 11:09 AM      Profile for Lacy   Email Lacy    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
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What about the other SBZ locations? Are they being ran only by store owner/TO’s?
Has any Professors or Master Professors that don’t own a shop been asked to run a battlezone?

I feel your pain, but this has not been true everywhere. Here in GA, Master Professor ScythKing from TN will be coming down to run SBZ here. He is (of course) not the store owner. Here in GA basically all premiere events have been held at the same location, The War Room. This location is pretty central to all of the Atlanta metro area and is also large enough to hold the 50 players that will be coming. I'm not at all displeased with the decision to run SBZ at The War Room here in Atlanta. You might also be surprised to know The War Room does not even run BattleZone, as you might expect. I believe they are picking the venues based on size and other factors none of us have considered. I would also try to look on the brightside if it were me, you don't have to run the events - you can actually play!

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posted January 23, 2003 11:09 AM      Profile for farbsman   Email farbsman    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
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Originally posted by old man:


Much of my aggravation comes from the location of the SBZ nearest me. It’s about 7 miles away, but it isn’t the store I choose to play at for a number of different reasons that I don’t want to go into here. One of my biggest problems with the chosen location is that that store has NEVER ran a SANCTIONED Pokemon tournament. Yes, they run un-sanctioned ones using the DCI software, they run Battlezone & they run Sanctioned Magic events. The TO of the event is also the owner of the store, (I believe), and is a nice guy that I really have no problem with. This store also has had no Professors of any kind come from there & has only had unlimited & theme deck tournaments.

My problem is why did WotC pick this store & this TO when another location in the metro area has had Sanctioned Pokemon tournaments for almost 2 years now, has 3 Master Professors, (also TO’s) & 2 Professors, with others working on becoming a Professor. “Our store” also has a lot more space for players & non-players and is just as easy to get to & find as the other. Yes, our store had league since the start of them & also runs Battlezone with sanctioned tournaments & have always had more players. Could this be why the other location was chosen? So that it would increase players there? I WILL NOT get into the other plusses & minuses of each store as I may not be privy to all the facts. But could this be something that “our” store has done?

Old Man, I know how you feel. Same thing happened to me. I have a league with around 45 kids a week, run another about 10 miles away with another 25 different kids. However, when SBZ were handed out it went to a store 30 miles away that has NEVER ran a Pokemon Event. I TO at least 2 events a month plus have done judging at the premier events.

Needless to say, should be interesting at that SBZ, I am traveling 2 hours to hopefully judge at a different SBZ. When I asked the South Bend BattleZone if they wanted help they stated they were going to use there normal Magic Judges for the tournament. [ROFL]

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posted January 23, 2003 11:17 AM      Profile for yoshi1001   Email yoshi1001    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Sometimes location choice is an inexact science. Look at Pokemon 4ever: Why were some of those locations chosen? League proximity seemed to be a factor most theatres were close to a league location, based on data from Los Angeles, Albany and Janesville.

As for Super Battlezone, I don't know. Space was a priority, I'm sure, as was ease of navigation and availibility of fuel components and probable location of humpback whales. It may also be that WotC won't divulge the exact location formula for fear people will work it.

It's easy to just give in and become frustrated.

You know me better than to do that. You have to keep trying.

[ January 23, 2003, 11:19 AM: Message edited by: yoshi1001 ]

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posted January 23, 2003 11:35 AM      Profile for Skywolf1   Email Skywolf1    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Old Man:

Before I begin, I HOPE that you continue to stay with the game. We NEED good People like yourself, and your son to keep this game a success for many years to come.

Honestly, I can certainly understand your position, and your present state of mind with regards to this proverbial "stab in the back", do I agree with it? HELL NO! You have been one of the most prominent supporters of this game, working tirelessly to keep the game alive in your area, and for that, I take my hat off to you. [Smile]

However, the list is just a partial one. So, there are still 30 more locations that have yet to be announced. Yours MIGHT VERY WELL be one of them. OKC is a good size area, so I find it very possible that YOUR store will get chosen.

Do I know what the selection critera was, in picking locations? Well, I THOUGHT it was by number of sanctioned tournaments, you and I have held well over 100 at each of our respective stores. Now, given the fact that I got chosen and YOU didn't, makes absolutely NO SENSE to me whatsoever, ESPECIALLY given the fact that the store that WAS chosen had NOTHING to do with Sanctioned Play for Pokemon. In fact, I will give you a number to contact, at WotC, it is my DCI contact, and I want you to ask for her, and get some answers. Because, this is NOT right!

Heck, I just got notification yesterday afternoon, so MY HOPE is that you'll be called today, and if not, CALL WotC, and ask for an explaination. All your hard work and dedication that you have put forth into this game, DESERVES AT LEAST, and I DO MEAN LEAST, an explaination!

Call Customer Service: 800-324-6496 and ask for Linda Roberts, she does DCI sanctioning, and she SHOULD be able to tell you, (at least I HOPE) WHY your store was singled out!

Please, I'd like to know how you made out, because this is NOT fair to all the other MP's/Professors who have put a GREAT DEAL of time and effort into the game, and keeping it alive. If they are giving it to stores that don't even run sanctioned tournament play, something needs to be seriously addressed here.

If there is ANYTHING that I can do for you Old Man, in this matter, PLEASE e-mail me at [email protected] or AIM me at Skywolf9683.

A VERY [Mad] ,

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posted January 23, 2003 11:59 AM      Profile for Gym Leader Blaine   Email Gym Leader Blaine    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Im am with you Old Man on the point of us needing to run our own tournament and not Premium TO's that dont know that game that well. Dont get me wrong the Premium TO in my area is great to work with, and everytime there has been a tournament here, he calls me up to run and get all the judges together for the event. SteveP can even tell you the last Challenge tournament here in Utah was run by the SLC Professors, and the TO did have to do much, which is how it should be. I would love to be able to run Pokemon tournaments without the Premium TO involved in anyway, cause he is not needed. I myself have run a ton of tournaments, many I dont get credit for since I ran them for the Game Keeper/WOTC store and the store is listed as the TO. As for Super Battle Zone our TO will even be less involved. He called me up, asked were we could have it, and I giving me full control over it. Wizards is the one the decided what town to have a tournament in, it is the Premiun TO's choice to which store or place he wants to run it. It would be nice just to do it all myself, but Wizards does have a lader of people they have to go through first. But maybe I hope one day they will not need the Magic TO's to run our Pokemon Tournaments, but let them run it ourselfs.

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posted January 23, 2003 02:25 PM      Profile for Martin Moreno   Email Martin Moreno    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Well oldman, not to be rude, but i don't understand why youre complaining. You actually have an event near you. Texas has 2 SBZ's in SOUTH texas. Which IMO, makes no sense. Both battlezones are within an hour distance from each other, and are each 5 hours away from North texas.

So obviously, I will not be able to attend one, unless one of the unannounced ones are in texas, but 1 state having 3 Super battle Zones seem improbable.

I was looking forward to playing in one, but looks like Dallas isn't worth a Super Battle Zone =(

But I'm not discouraged by this. And I'm not "quitting the game" because of it. I guess we have to wait and see if we get a Challenge Series..

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posted January 23, 2003 02:42 PM      Profile for dontknow09   Email dontknow09    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Hey, i live in TX too. Well, ill be another to your supporters old man. At my league, we have 'fake' professors. Don't even know the rules. Whats even worse is that everyone follows what one person calls. I know rules, heck, i know more than everyone. I'm a prof too, but no one ever listens to me.

As for SBZ, im clueless on that. I just go to a pointless league every Saturday. Thats how involved i am with pokemon.

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posted January 23, 2003 03:02 PM      Profile for IPGeek21   Email IPGeek21    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
ONE HAS DONE SO MUCH for his area...

THE OTHER MOUTHS off so much for his area...

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posted January 23, 2003 03:44 PM      Profile for Martin Moreno   Email Martin Moreno    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
I like those odds.

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posted January 23, 2003 04:19 PM      Profile for Johnny Blaze   Email Johnny Blaze    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
I feel all your poke-holics pain. It can be summed up like this: Wizards does their best to keep this game alive and we also do as Professros, Master Professors, TO's, etc. Their is just so much on their plate and they cant please everyone. Be happy with what we got and strive for more.

I have to drive 3 hours either West or East just to get to a SBZ. I live in NY and not even the Nations largest Pokemon store- Pokemon Center NYC is having one. That should tell you all something right there. If any place The Pokemon Center should have a SBZ.

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posted January 23, 2003 08:20 PM      Profile for ScythKing   Email ScythKing    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
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Originally posted by old man:
My problem is why did WotC pick this store & this TO when another location in the metro area has had Sanctioned Pokemon tournaments for almost 2 years now, has 3 Master Professors, (also TO’s) & 2 Professors, with others working on becoming a Professor.

Hang in there dude. We need leaders like you.
I may be mistaken (you heard it from me first :-) but WotC leaves the location up to the Premier TO's. They (the TO's) are responsible for locating the suitable location, arranging for rent, judges, legal issues, etc etc (gazillion details). WotC can't possibly know all gaming locations to a detail needed to select the right one for the job for a given area over the whole country! Most if not all Premier TO's have been in the business for years arranging Magic tournaments, comic and sci-fi shows - you name it. So they have their own little network of folks that they've gotten comfortable with over the years. It goes something like this - "Hey Jim, WotC has this Super BZ thing on Feb 15. Is your place clear for that? Great, same arrangements as usual? Great, we'll call it a go then." End of conversation. So don't take it personal. Go talk to the store - get to know them and find out the typical arrangements. See if your store can match or beat them. Get to know the TO. Volunteer to help/judge. Point out the K rating benefit of having you as head judge.
Just some suggestions and trying to help you come to peace with WotC - I think they're pretty benevolent crowd myself...

[ January 23, 2003, 08:22 PM: Message edited by: ScythKing ]

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posted January 23, 2003 08:32 PM      Profile for ScythKing   Email ScythKing    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
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Originally posted by Lacy:
[QUOTE]I would also try to look on the brightside if it were me, you don't have to run the events - you can actually play!

Aha! So that's your ploy, eh? [Evil Smirk] I might just need to draft some help...
Just to clarify - the Premier TO for the Atlanta SBZ is Southeast Magic and the main man is Anthony Edwards - a highly respected TO for many years in this part of the country. Mostly Anthony is known for organizing Magic tournaments and premier events. I've judged the last three major Pokemon events down here by Anthony simply because I went up to him way back when and pitched my case - so now he knows me and we work together on these things.

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posted January 23, 2003 08:57 PM      Profile for Gordon Kane   Email Gordon Kane    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Martin - the reason the DFW area didn't get anything is there is no store willing.

Rama Llama is gone (only place that could hold 100+ players - been gone since 8/2001). Texas Game Co and Hall of Fame have changed ownership. Lone Star never really supported the game.
The stores that hosted leagues (Hastings, Books-A-Million, TRU, etc.) never liked the "competitive player" - and DFW had its share of uncouth players (Gerhardt, Chipmonk, and you - Martin).
Crispy Crit and Dana Lynch tried hard to sustain the competitive player base -- but some defected to Magic, Magi-Nation, DBZ, and Yu-Gi-Oh. Part of the problem was that no store embraced the group and welcomed them - you guys were forced to playing in the common area of a near-dead shopping mall.

Why did Houston (Conroe - north of Houston) get it? Well, even despite their loss of big venues like Browser Books - Midnight Comics, StrikeZone, and other stores continue to flourish (in fact, last July a former Pokemon player took and sold his collection of Pokemon cards to StrikeZone when DeckTech held a regional Decipher Star Wars and Magi-Nation tourney down there - amazing that someone was even buying the old cards).
Houston held one of the first Super Trainer Showdowns -- I was down there covering it for Beckett (and Jungle was released that weekend).
Face it - the fickle players of DFW have moved on from Pokemon. The only remaining League / BattleZone I know of (at Y2Komics) is run as a casual gathering and not as a competitive event (I think even 4 weeks in, the Gym Leader had not had occasion to even award one Electabuzz).

I've given up -- but part of that is the retail situation down here. All the surviving stores don't know me from Adam. They don't know my commitment, and they aren't willing to sink extra money into a game they see to be on the wane. If the stores that I was running League in were still around, we'd have a great following. But I poured all my effort into build a decent following only to have the store close. There were a lot of kids that were able to walk / bike to that store, but couldn't make it to the next place that I moved it to. After 3 store moves (and then my own personal move 50+ miles away due to layoff), the organizer, the willing retailer, and the player base were no where near one another.

The Austin site does surprise me -- and an easier drive for those in DFW that still have a passion (but the Unlimited format does kinda befuddle me).

[ January 23, 2003, 09:22 PM: Message edited by: Gordon Kane ]

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posted January 23, 2003 10:07 PM      Profile for SteveP   Email SteveP    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Interesting. I predicted that some would become upset over where SBZs would and wouldn't be held. I'm sure many of the complaints will seem justified, but unlike others in this topic, I'm not going to let something that I can't control bother me. We might not get a SBZ in CO, but we still have BZ, and we have complete control over that.

Sorry old man and others, but I don't sympathize. Sure old man, you've done MUCH more than most and I respect that. I hope you and others can take this in-stride and not let it bother you so much. Go kick-butt at that other store and show them who the "Real" Pokemon players in OK are.

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posted January 24, 2003 12:17 AM      Profile for Planteon      Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
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Originally posted by LizardOTC:
Well, I would settle for simply having one of these in my state.

Listen, we don't even have a SBZ on our continent, so try to keep things in perspective... [Wink]

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posted January 24, 2003 06:48 AM      Profile for old man   Email old man    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Thanks for all the comments. Those that can "feel it like I do" & even those that don't. I appreciate the comments from both sides.

One thing I neglected on purpose to mention yesterday was that I sent an e-mail to the TO offering to help him in whatever way I can, BEFORE I wrote the above. After I woke up, I read my e-mail & got a response. In short, he thanked me for my offer & wants to know if I want to run the SBZ for him admitting that he doesn't know anything about judging Pokemon. My reply, in short was yes. I am still disappointed by the decision with it being at that store, but at least now I can make a BIG difference. I will be meeting with the TO soon to go over details & will post anything newsworth.

Martin - I do believe Austin is closer than 5 hours away from the DFW area. And if you don't get one closer you are more than welcome to come to OK.

Just so no one misunderstands, I am not nor have been against driving to any of the QT's or Gym or Stadium Challenges & now add in SBZ. During last year's "tour season" in 3 months time I drove 4500 miles going to upper level tournaments. There were only 3 that were confirmed beforehand that I would be able to play at. The others were wait & see.

Once again, Thank You for those that support & those that do not.

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