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Topic: What should we do to bring about 15+ play back into tournaments?
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Dumbledore
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posted June 25, 2002 05:57 AM
I agree totally with you Lugia.
And I must say that I'm seriously considering leaving the game alltogether just because of this constant request for TRIP PRIZES!!!!!
Why can't we just play and have FUN!!! I wonder if some here has ever even heard the word. FUN!
We shouldn't need grand prizes to compete in tourney's. The glory of beating everyone with your killer deck should really be rewarding enough. Compare yourself to any other not so hot sport.....the elite players in those struggle every day of their active life. Seldom getting anything back but has to pay for it themselves mostly cause they love what they are doing.
So why can't we????? Why does it have to be BIG prizes all the time? Why does it have to be trips? Couldn't it just be the glory of knowing that you won over all the other great players in the part of the world where you live?
I'm really sick and tired of all these childish greedy players that only wants more and more and more....never satisfied.....always complaining about tourneys that wasn't up to their standard cause it started a bit late or something didn't quite work the way they expected to.
We are all human beings. Everyone can make misstakes. Large events needs to happen more than once with the same personell to run smother than before.....
Life has taught me in a very rough way to be patient and content with whats available. You never know how long your life will be so my suggestion to all is to enjoy what is and be content with what you have instead of screaming for more all the time!
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posted June 25, 2002 06:26 AM
I don´t agree with you Dumbledore
Because when i was the whole day Judging I wanted to play myself
Yhen I have the right to complain about a lter start or that I have to leave because of the Final was in the middle of the night
My big dream is to go to the USA and you are not taken mu dream away by saying that we may not complain
If you don´t like it then just go on with playing
LOTR and leave Pokemon to us
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Dumbledore
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posted June 25, 2002 06:30 AM
Mew35: Sure you have your dream. But don't expect pokemon to give it too you. Go after it in otherways. Save money! Buy the trip.
Has any of you ever considered all the US kids that wants to go to Europe?????
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posted June 25, 2002 08:12 AM
Mew35 and Dumbledore: please, can you keep the personal debate to AIM or email? This thread has had some good discussion, and it really should not be continuing on in this manner.
Thank you for your understanding and cooperation...
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Dumbledore
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posted June 25, 2002 11:07 AM
Sorry Pokemom but you need to elaborate on this.....
Cause I was meerly agreeing with Lugia909....
And then Mew35 stated his dream and I only commented that maybe one shouldn't rely on just Pokemon to make a dream come true???
What's wrong with that?
On another topic they are jumping all over me cause I actually gave someone credit for something and nothing happens....
I don't get this....
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posted June 25, 2002 12:06 PM
To bring everything back on topic, I'd like to emphasise that this isn't a demand-and-get thread, moreso a what-can-we-do-for-our-game-to-get-this-if-we-want-it thread.
What needs to be done by Professors in order to go to the next stage of OP? What are these 'stages' that we need to take players through? Can someone break it down for us to examine? A lot of players and board members are far more finger-on-the-pulse than I am, which is why I'm asking for ideas in this way. Personally, I hope that one of the stages includes the reintroduction of 15+ play in Challenge events, STS-style. Hope. ![[Smile]](../tcg/smile.gif)
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Dumbledore
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posted June 25, 2002 12:09 PM
I didn't really think I was off topic but ok...back on track....
I think that if we stop thinking about the big prizes and maybe try to get more publicity around the tourney's we have, might bring players back. I don't think that any 15+ player should HAVE to take the professor test to be able to compete in large scale tourneys. We who want to help out with OP and judge and stuff can do that.
I mean even bridge players and chessplayers has their own columns in the local papper.....why can't we or any other tcg?
Given more publicity would also bring more "glory" to the winners....maybe we need some kind of series....where we play in our countries and then we can go and compete in Territorials and stuff like that. I do think that we need a lot more OP not less....but maybe a lot more small events and not as many big ones.... That might get us 15+ players back and keep the ones that are growing into the bracket....
I know in my country we need more game shops...hehe ![[Wink]](../tcg/wink.gif)
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posted June 25, 2002 12:11 PM
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Originally posted by CPUSrchDiscarding2forOak:
Money being returned is.
Winners of high-scale Pokemon tournaments (in this case, Worlds) should be getting somewhere in the neighborhood of $50,000. A lot of people (the highly competitive ones) that quit playing stopped because there wasn't enough to keep them around FINANCIALLY. Not because it didn't interest them. Not because they didn't like the game. Because they had no chance of recuperating some/all of their card money from a tournament as Magic players do.
It amuses me greatly that you would post this. I will leave it at that ![[Evil Smirk]](../tcg/graemlins/Up_to.gif)
I will gladly continue to pour money into this game whether or not something like this happens...
Don't you mean until mommy throws you out of the basement and you have to creep into a real life existence?
but think of it this way: What if, for every pack bought, a nickel or a dime was added to a fund specifically for cash prizes?
Again, why are you worried about this? I mean really. Come on CPU. You know as well as I do that you are only capable of beating little kids with archetypes that you copied from Pojo.com. Adam could whip you with a deck of commons.
I know I'd be a LOT more into the game than I am now (which is hard to believe because I got expelled for a month for threatening a Columbine because someone was dissing Mewtwo)!
And finally, You are one sad dude if you think that Columbine remark makes you cool. I know you better that most of these people on the boards and I can honestly say you have some very serious issues about Mewtwo. You do realize that he is not real. And if he was I doubt he would want you for anything.
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posted June 25, 2002 12:14 PM
question: Why did wizards drop the 15+ age catogory??
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Dumbledore
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posted June 25, 2002 12:32 PM
good question Dutch,
I think they dropped 15+ as an age bracket for several reasons.
1 is that the game was supposed to be manufactured as a kids game for kids under 15.....
1 might be cause there was some trouble at an event.....
1 might be that they just had to cut budget....and since they aim for younger groups they felt that those where the ones to keep rewarding....
1 might be that they thought that the Professor program would be more popular than it might be.....
Just some thoughts....
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posted June 25, 2002 12:55 PM
Nick, I was not talking about a Wizards set, but about a completely new game, based on the principles of Pokemon.
Money as prices ? What do we have now ? Two main categories (10- and 11-14) and the Professors who can play big events.
The topic is about bringing 15+ players back into tournaments ...
Money for kids under 15 ? I do really prefer that they play for boosters, trips, material, ... Do we want to have 'under 15 Professionals' ? Do we want to take the risk to see the game corrupted with money ? Look what already happened ... for a round bye at the STS for example. ![[Dubious]](../tcg/graemlins/dubious.gif)
Money for Professors ? I don't want to come back on an old discussion, but we all know that there are players who are profs to play the main tournaments only, without beeing intersted in the program at all. Put money in that, and I let you imagine what will happen with the program ...
Money for 15+ ? But they don't have main event anymore ... and that's the subject of this topic ![[Razz]](../tcg/tongue.gif)
Other subject of the month on the Pokegym ... trips, and mainly trips for Europeans to go to Worlds.
I see one solution ... as Pokemon is a worldwide game ... let's organize Worlds 2003 in Europe ![[Angel]](../tcg/graemlins/angel.gif)
BTW, I really don't know what happens on this side of the ocean, but people seem to be (too) nervous. If we want to have Worlds 2003 in Europe ( ![[Big Grin]](../tcg/biggrin.gif) ), or if we simply want to keep on building things with WotC, it's time to stop all these 'personal posts'.
Quite funny that most of the 'hard posts' are written by 15+ players . Is that the best way to be credible and ask for something new for that age category ?
This said, I'm sure of two things : there is nothing (except local events and side events) for 15+ players who don't want to be Profs. The fact that these players are 'forgotten' has a direct consequence, they leave the game.
One of the best things I've found when I've started playing Pokemon, is that I shared a passion with my 11 years old daughter.
We still have that passion, and we still play together at home, but I must say that it's not the same as last year when we went together to play a tournament.
One of the greatest forces of Pokemon was that it was a family game. Team play will let parents and kids play together, but it's not really the same.
TPC has maybe information about what is said on the boards. They take decisions about the game we play ... and the game they sell, and some decisions have a huge impact on the community. Why wouldn't we ask them to join us on the boards ?
I don't want big prizes for 15+, I don't ask for trips or money. I just remember last year STS ... no STS for 15+, but a side event that was actually as important and the same as the main event.
Do the people who were in NJ or SD remember the fun we've had ? Do they remember how many 15+ were playing there ? There were no trip or money to win, but cards, a jacket, ... and a real good time all together.
That's all I hope to see again, in the US and in Europe
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posted June 27, 2002 02:41 AM
very well written Michel...but I do not agree with you on one thing there =\ 15+ NEED trips...I cant afford to travel to the US or whatever. and saving money is NOT an option since I have to buy new cards to be able to update my decks for the new format. Now I will be called a whiner by "some" people =\ but not everyone can afford a trip, not every professor or 15+ player have that money...
Just my 2 cents. Someone here call me a whiner and you're so banned for insulting me (like that is gonna happen ![[Roll Eyes]](../tcg/rolleyes.gif) )
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posted June 27, 2002 02:38 PM
Michel,
Well said and I think that is the point that FreddyK is trying to get across. I'm gald we will have another opportunity to see you and your family at Worlds.
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posted June 27, 2002 07:42 PM
Freddy K: I agree totaly with you about bringi back the 15+ Division. People around here are starting to leave Pokemon and play Yu-Gi-Oh! and suff bcause they can't win any trips to anywere. I beleive this will help Wizards. It's better of them to have a couple of 15+ have plane tickes givin to them so otheres will see and continue the gae rather thenhave tons of people leaving the game each month. Maybe we shoudl all send e-mails to Wizards and demmand them to put back 15+ or something. It seems so much smater to have 15+ back in action.
Dumbledore: Cool idea. Maybe each country could maybe form a team of 10 people to represent there country at like a big tourny. It'll be like a mini-World Cup. hehehe. That sounds like a really cool idea. It might cost Wizards alot to do this but i think it's worth it. People are gonna practice at there local leagues harder to give them a chance to win a spot. That'll help the store-keeper cuz the players are gonna buy something for sure to improve there decks. Maybe thatll make people more people intersted in the game.
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posted June 27, 2002 11:24 PM
PokePop, as far as I'm aware Yu-Gi-Oh has not even started a tournament program that offers trips or cash prizes to the players. I'm not even sure if there are any tournaments sanctioned right now. I do know there will be some at Origins next week, but other than that, no clue.
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posted June 28, 2002 12:12 AM
I don´t want cash
![[Mad]](../tcg/mad.gif) Just want 15 + back
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posted June 28, 2002 06:05 AM
15+ play hasn't gone away. Its just not the same as 10- and 11to14. So is the call for bringing 15+ play back into tournaments just a different way of asking for the trip to worlds. Or am I completely on the wrong track?
FWIW I do believe that a glamourous prize does benefit the game at all ages. It needn't be an all expenses paid trip but it should have a WOW! factor.
As far as the immediate future of 15+ play is concerned I think we will have to do it ourselves. Inter-club competitions seem like the most promissing route. Once running we may be able to twist WotC's arm to give us some prize support!
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posted June 28, 2002 07:39 AM
NoPoke,
sorry matey I think you are wrong... I know I now have less time to play as I am Professoring and such like and I know that the younger over 15's don't want to be profs but do want to play???
They tell me they cannot pass the tests and ask for help.. which I have refused so far but it saddens me to see them leave Pokemon because they feel excluded...
Now I do not exclude them from league or local tourneys but there is only so much I can do.. I buy promo's packs and other goodies like you do to give out as prizes but a chance once or twice a year to play for a dream is what they want.
Why give it to 2 levels of your players and not the 3rd? To me the professor programme is about rewarding TO's GYM Leaders and Judges not a replacement for 15+ indeed by excluding those under 18 from TOing it shows the difference.
So sorry NoPoke but Professor Programme is not 15+
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posted June 28, 2002 09:09 AM
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Originally posted by ukpokemonpro:
Why give it to 2 levels of your players and not the 3rd? To me the professor programme is about rewarding TO's GYM Leaders and Judges not a replacement for 15+ indeed by excluding those under 18 from TOing it shows the difference.
Well...
Until 'certain things' happened in the past few weeks, I and a couple of other people had been working on a position paper that might've had a chance at forming a 15-18 division. It went over all of the various rationales for this, differences between school systems and social standards in Japan and the rest of the world that might've justified this to TPC, and so on. I'd been working on it since making comments that it might be necessary for something like this in the wake of the 6 Jan 2002 announcement of the Professors Program, talking with a number of people online and off, and pulling down a lot of supporting arguments from posts on here and elsewhere.
Gotta be honest, though...I don't feel much like working on it anymore.
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posted June 28, 2002 11:41 AM
Lugia is right. If you want big prizes and whatnot, start acting like you deserve it.
Now, big cash prizes are probably out of the question. I think we need to look instead at specialized prizes only winnable at these events. I don't mean like those plaques and medals and certificates and stuff. I mean they're nice, but how about other things. Maybe at the next CSC, th top 4 or 8 or whatever could get passes to see an IMAX movie at Navy pier (alternately, those unable to use these passes could get some extra cards). That's just one suggestion in a million. We could give out gift certificates to pokemoncenter.com, we could have stuff autographed by the voice actors, the list goes on and on and on. I know it's not earnings you can live on, but that's never going to happen, because Wizard doesn't have the money, and even if they did, it would only keep a few people in the game.
I'm also sorry that some of you have a negative impression of the Professor Program. Unfortunately, there are people out there who distort the facts in order to advance their viewpoints. This is not neccesarily malicious, but it is damaging. The Program is not some judging organization. The MTs are not going to come over to your house and tell you to judge this and sanction that and playtest this. You don't need to do anything beyond passing the test if you don't want to.
Is the test too hard? Difficult to say. Please understand that by calling someone a Professor, Wizards is saying, "this is an honest, knowledgeable, trustworthy person." They need to be careful who they say that about, and the test reflects that. When I first saw the test, I have to admit I felt totally inadequate in my knowledge of the facts. Now, I passed by the skin of my teeth, but then those technical problems popped up, and I found out I'd have to go through the ordeal again. Now, I could have just given up on the whole thing after that. I mean, I was really frusturated by this. Instead, I decided I would study up a little so I wouldn't have to worry next time.
Now, I know what you're thinking: Yeah, Yoshi can do that because he's a big rules geek with too much time on his hands. I may be a rules geek, but it doesn't take hours and hours of study to pass that test. The beauty of the test is that it makes you realize where your strengths and weekness are, and that actually makes studying very quick. Additionally, I'll bet you'll see all this pay off in your playing as well. You'll make decisions faster, gain confidence in your actions, know what can happen and what can't. You see the Program isn't about just judging. After all, only a tiny fraction of people involved are judging at any given time. To say the program is all about judging is just totally inaccurate.
Now, as for the e-mail list, I would say that the great majority of e-mails are not judging (tournament organization and penalty) questions. There are a lot of card rules questions, but those of course apply to judges and players. Others involve questions about events and releases and such. Really, it's what you want to get out of it.
Just understand though that as you progress through life, expectations for you rise. If you think some two-hour test is too much to ask for, well, just wait until you get out into the real world.
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posted June 29, 2002 12:29 PM
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I'm also sorry that some of you have a negative impression of the Professor Program. Unfortunately, there are people out there who distort the facts in order to advance their viewpoints. This is not neccesarily malicious, but it is damaging.
Now I do not have anything against the professor programme and I certainly do not have a negative view of it.
But put it into context please.. I am talking about young adults who quite frankly can't be bothered to learn the Tourney Rules the Penalty Guidelines and all the rest of the documents that we do... They still want to play but see themselves excluded because they do not have a chance to play in the same way the younger players do.
Add to that the fact that Europe gets the chance to send only one professor to worlds and you see why players get dis-heartened.
For me the prof programme is great although it would be nice to get our ID cards???
But it cannot and has not replaced 15+
So as this post is about that I think my comments are fair ..we need more than professorship to bring 15+ back into tournaments..
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posted June 29, 2002 12:57 PM
When anyone says that they want 15+ back it automatically clicks that they want trips, the prizes, and everything else they want.
Why Phil, why do you assume this?
At every Main Event there are ancillary events. At events like the STS there were many of these events. Do not tell me or anyone else here the 15+ are restricted from playing. The only thing they are not getting is trip packages, everything else is the same and equal to the other age groups.
The Professor Program is not mandatory, as the DCI Certified Judge Program for Magic The Gathering. It allows Organizers to recieve a reward for doing their normal job, sanctioning events and helping players.
Do these individuals get to play at events? No because they are busy supporting the community in some way.
So what does Wizards do for these dedicated organizers and judges? Rewards them for hard work.
Egads, thats going to break a few hearts around here. I only want to say this once and only once, so those of you skimming posts listen up:
- The Professor Program is NOT for players.
Just a question for anyone who has played Magic or has worked with WotC... does anyone join the Magic Certified Judge Program seeking trips/prizes/etc? Just something to ponder over.
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posted June 29, 2002 04:02 PM
Just saying that it is kinda [edited] that everybody else get trips but not the 15+ =\ and the side events arent really a good reason to travel through 5 countries to get to...
I am a PLAYER...it could be cool to judge sometime but I PLAY this game...
So you have to become a prof if you want the trips. And a big part of the 15+ want to be treated equal. They also want a chance of getting to worlds WITHOUT having to be a prof. top 4 of 10- and 11-14 get trips...we get one! (if you're a prof).
Its like you assume that we can afford to travel anywhere...
Just SOOO unfair...
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posted June 29, 2002 07:06 PM
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Originally posted by Michel:
One of the best things I've found when I've started playing Pokemon, is that I shared a passion with my 11 years old daughter.
We still have that passion, and we still play together at home, but I must say that it's not the same as last year when we went together to play a tournament.
One of the greatest forces of Pokemon was that it was a family game. Team play will let parents and kids play together, but it's not really the same.
Wow. Well said. This is my personal disappointment with the current state of affairs. I'll offer some suggestions (as fk is asking) in another post, I hope.
Here in response to your message, I'd like to chime in: my wife and oldest daughter are not nearly the TCG rules geek that I am. They help me with my tourneys, but don't have the interest in organizing. Thus, they are not Prof. material right now.
But they LOVE to go to the main event tourneys. Love to meet people in this game (and beat some of them ;-). They like to check on the progress of the other members of the family and our friends in the main event. Well, they weren't with me at WCSC. Going to side events isn't the same. We have those at home. I can't explain the difference. Oh well. For now, that's the way it is. I hope in the future, things will grow to be different.
For me, if there was a TMP open age or family category (to include 15+ children) main event, this would be a big help and a real hoot. Somehow, I think there will be restrictions. Do we know anything about these categories yet?
I want my friends who are 15+ reading this and not members of my family to understand that I haven't forgotten you. I'm just responding to Michel's point.
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Pokemon TCG is a game for all ages.
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