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Planteon
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posted December 16, 2002 01:46 AM      Profile for Planteon      Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
There were lots of rumours around the licence to issue the Pokémon TCG cards in the US (and presumably the rest of the world excluding Japan). Does anyone know if this has been settled? If not, when will it be decided?

The reason that I ask is that Wizards are releasing of a lot of Pokémon TCG cards at the moment ("Best of" Promos, "Pokémon Centre/Nintendo mag" Promos, at least two (maybe even three) HUGE expansion sets where the Japanese sets have been combined). To me it looks like WotC are making sure that they don't have a single unreleased card left when the licence runs out. This doesn't necessarily mean that WotC believe that will miss out on the new licence, it is sounds like sound business practice in case they don't get the renewal.

I for one hope that WotC will continue to release the cards outside of Japan... [Big Grin]

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posted December 16, 2002 01:52 AM      Profile for IPGeek21   Email IPGeek21    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
I DOUBT we'll get any NEWS about this.
After all, because of those RUMORS almost ALL leaks have STOPPED =/

Press Releases?
Who knows... I plead ignorant on this one...

AND I whole-heartedly agree WotC all the WAY!!!

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posted December 16, 2002 05:00 AM      Profile for Planteon      Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Mmmm, I've noticed the silence. Any informationa about the date when the licence issue should be settled? January 1st 2003? Spring 2003? I can't remember... [Confused]

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posted December 16, 2002 05:36 AM      Profile for yoshi1001   Email yoshi1001    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Well, we'll probably not hear anything on this if they do get it renewed, and odds are it will.

In other words, no news is good news.

[ December 16, 2002, 05:37 AM: Message edited by: yoshi1001 ]

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posted December 16, 2002 06:56 AM      Profile for Planteon      Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Sigh...

Yoshi:
"Ignorance is Bliss?" [Confused]

I can fully understand if the people at WotC don't want to reveal what's going on during the negotiations. I'm just curious about WHEN we can expect to know if WotC gets the licence and if they don't WHEN the licence expires...

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posted December 16, 2002 07:14 AM      Profile for yoshi1001   Email yoshi1001    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
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But on the whole I'd say, super-duper.

WotC is assuming they'll be renewed, judging by their plans. Pokemon USA stated in a conversation with Skywolf they were pleased with WotC.

Even if the deal is disclosed, there may not be an exact date...that's why it's called a negotiation.

I wouldn't worry, though.

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posted December 16, 2002 07:21 AM      Profile for Planteon      Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
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Originally posted by yoshi1001:
WotC is assuming they'll be renewed, judging by their plans.

Of course they've made plans for a contination! I can't really see a serious company saying "Hey, Coooooool, we got the deal, let's start our planning now!" They're probably prepared for not getting the licence as well, but we know nothing of those plans.

Just let's hope for a positive answer as soon as possible -

Hey, Santa, can you deliver on this one? [Wink]

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posted December 16, 2002 08:12 AM      Profile for Orange Soda   Email Orange Soda    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
I seem to remember hearing that the contract goes up for grabs in April. If Wizards is still in production in May, then I think we're safe.

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posted December 16, 2002 08:33 AM      Profile for PokePop   Email PokePop    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
You all do realize that they have gone through this at least a few times before already?

The only reason it all seems so critical now is because of the rumors that were spread.

Not that we don't have to worry about Nintendo saying, "Hey, we're printing up all these e-reader cards for everything except Pokemon. Maybe we should print those up too."
But, there is nothing we can do about it, so why worry until or if it happens.

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posted December 17, 2002 02:23 AM      Profile for Planteon      Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
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Originally posted by PokePop:
You all do realize that they have gone through this at least a few times before already?

The last time I checked, "a few" ment "more than two", and as the first set was released in 1999 that would imply that the licence is renewed annualy? Is that something regulated by licensing laws? Otherwise it sounds pretty time-consuming to renew the licence every year as it apparently takes months to negotiate the deal.

Anyway, IF the licence is renewed every year then I can understand why WotC can't tell us about release dates etc in advance. However, I fail to see why WotC can't simply state that this is the case? The main reason why rumours will start to circulate is when there is no information available and people start to speculate. The ultimate way to stop the rumour mill is to release information. However, I know that the WotC dogma is "no information until it is set in stone", so this will mean that we will have to live with speculations arising now and then...

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Originally posted by Orange Soda:
I seem to remember hearing that the contract goes up for grabs in April. If Wizards is still in production in May, then I think we're safe.

April rings a bell and sounds logical, that should be after Skyridge has been released. It'll be interesting to see what happens after Skyridge. Let's hope WotC still runs the show after that...

[ December 17, 2002, 03:42 AM: Message edited by: Planteon ]

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posted December 17, 2002 04:47 AM      Profile for Michel   Email Michel    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Like the MT's said a lot of times, that kind of information may not be public ... and will not be I think.

Some recent announcements like 2 new sets, Battle Zone, new promos, Delegate Program, Super Battle Zone and the extra budget for it, ... make me think everything's ok concerning that license.
Would Wizards put efforts and money in a product they'll not have in a couple of months anymore ? [Wink]

But I believe we don't have to speculate on the license question anymore. Of course it's very important to all of us, but Wizards/Hasbro will not give public information on the subject anyway.

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posted December 17, 2002 05:42 AM      Profile for Planteon      Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
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Originally posted by Michel:
Like the MT's said a lot of times, that kind of information may not be public ... and will not be I think.

Now this is something my tiny mind can't understand... Why is so sensitive to say when a licence runs out? I'm not asking about the details of the negotiations, just curious about the date when it should be finalised! It's like If I'm asking when I'm getting my Christmas presents and being told "I can't tell you what's in your boxes" when the answer should be "Christmas Eve" (in Sweden/Norway) or "Christmas Day" (US/UK)...

[ December 17, 2002, 05:45 AM: Message edited by: Planteon ]

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posted December 17, 2002 06:59 AM      Profile for yoshi1001   Email yoshi1001    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Planteon, have you considered that it would not be socially conducive to tell us when the actual dates are? I mean, what would people do if they knew? Panic unncessarily, maybe? Just what I think.

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posted December 17, 2002 07:22 AM      Profile for Planteon      Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
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Originally posted by yoshi1001:
Planteon, have you considered that it would not be socially conducive to tell us when the actual dates are? I mean, what would people do if they knew? Panic unncessarily, maybe? Just what I think.

[Confused] Why should people panic if they knew that the licence came up annually in, say April?
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posted December 17, 2002 10:01 AM      Profile for Orange Soda   Email Orange Soda    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Probably the same reason people have been panicking in recent months.

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Something like that (misspellings may or may not be included).

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posted December 17, 2002 11:58 AM      Profile for ShadowCard      Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
hey, this is kinda a bad thought, but what would we do if the lisence wasn't renewed?

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posted December 17, 2002 12:02 PM      Profile for DMTM      Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
"I can't talk about things I can't talk about"

"That's some catch that catch 22."

"Yep, it's the best there is."

[Bored]

[ December 17, 2002, 12:05 PM: Message edited by: DMTM ]

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posted December 17, 2002 12:03 PM      Profile for yoshi1001   Email yoshi1001    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Duck and cover. [Wink]

Folks, I wouldn't even worry about it. The odds of non-renewal are pretty low.

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posted December 17, 2002 12:15 PM      Profile for SauroN   Email SauroN    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
lol. DMTM is scary ...

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posted December 17, 2002 04:46 PM      Profile for hobbs      Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Planteon, think Martha Stewart. At certant times companies can not release information so that their stocks don't start plumiting because of bad news. And a possible loss of a big money maker would definatly qualify as bad news.

Anyways, I think you're being paranoid about the releases. WOTC has been trying to catch up with Japan in any way that they can without flooding the market with new cards for a long time.

Besides, WOTC just banned Slowking mostly out of MF's wishes, as stated in the chat. So, doing things for your licesncer (sp?) at the risk of being unpopular when you're going to be dropped soon by them doesn't seem very logical.

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posted December 18, 2002 02:26 AM      Profile for Planteon      Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
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Originally posted by hobbs:
Planteon, [snip], I think you're being paranoid about the releases. WOTC has been trying to catch up with Japan in any way that they can without flooding the market with new cards for a long time.

(Insert your favourite blasphemy here)...!
My assumpiton is that WotC will get the licence, have I ever written anything else? I think that what WotC are doing makes absoulute sense, both by making sure that they don't sit on loads of unreleased cards and to have a shorter lag compared to Japan. However, I find the arguments that "Ignorance is bliss" very disturbing!

DMTM: In my eyes you're even funnier than you intended, so keep us smiling!

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posted December 18, 2002 11:22 AM      Profile for LuckyCal   Email LuckyCal    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
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Originally posted by DMTM:
"I can't talk about things I can't talk about"

"That's some catch that catch 22."

"Yep, it's the best there is."

[Bored]

...And that's why I can't get grounded for being crazy...

Hmm... I should read that book again. Nothing like chocolate-covered cotton to clean out the mind...

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