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Shining Mewtwo 02
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posted October 10, 2002 05:00 PM
This has been going on for quite a while now.
For some reason, all my holographic cards start to bend by themselves; the curve inward (towards the front of the card) and it makes playing with them a bit hard since they "pop up" and lift all the cards resting on them.
I want to know what causes this and what I can to do fix it. I've already tried setting heavy books on them overnight, but that doesn't do a thing. I think it might have something to do with the fact that the temperature in my room is very cold, but I'm just wondering if anyone else has had this problem.
In case you were wondering, they're all American holos from various series. None of my Japanese holos have changed shape at all.
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Raikou1234
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posted October 10, 2002 05:04 PM
Well, someone I know had his a/c brake down, (jrod), and all of his cards went like in a u =/ I think humidity does it.....
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Shining Mewtwo 02
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posted October 10, 2002 05:07 PM
Humidity, huh? Yeah, it can get pretty humid here in South Texas. Is there a way to reverse it?
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Psychic_Prof
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posted October 10, 2002 05:15 PM
Mine do it to...it's because of the layering they use when printing or somthing.
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SGHErika72
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posted October 11, 2002 04:53 AM
Sorry to hear that it's happening to others, but yes, it is also occuring to our cards. Most of the Holo's seem to gradually bend as you described, especially when the cards are left out. Cards protected in a binder are pretty stable.
For some of the older cards, it's like having a marked card. My kids know where there Stage 2 Pokemon (Holo) is in thier prize pile because of the bending.
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Lord_Ninetales
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posted October 11, 2002 02:37 PM
It happens because of temperature - the foil contracts when it is cold more than the card, so the foil is no longer as wide as the card that it is attached to. Since the inner face of a curve is shorter than the outher face, the cards bend around because the smaller foil remains attached to the card.
If it got really warm, the card would bend the other way... or spontaneously combust...
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Scizor Master
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posted October 11, 2002 06:56 PM
I don't think it's a temperature thing. Here in Puerto Rico the weather is warm throughout the whole year (even in winter we have 90°F) and they bend in a U, even the LC/Expedition reverse holos do that. It must be the layers/holofoil paper. Maybe we should ask DMTM. ![[Evil Smirk]](../tcg/graemlins/Up_to.gif)
[ October 11, 2002, 06:57 PM: Message edited by: Scizor Master ]
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Otaku
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posted October 12, 2002 09:29 AM
I seem to recall it being all about the fact that cardboard absorbs moisture from the air and expands, while the holo-foil obviously doesn't. However, it was a discussion form at elast a year ago, so I can most certainly be wrong.
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posted October 12, 2002 05:15 PM
Nobody knows exactly what it is that makes the holo/foil cards bend, not even DMTM; it is a mystery that will never be solved. ![[ROFL]](../tcg/graemlins/roflmao.gif)
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Hairy Clefairy
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posted October 13, 2002 01:47 AM
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Originally posted by Lord_Ninetales:
It happens because of temperature - the foil contracts when it is cold more than the card, so the foil is no longer as wide as the card that it is attached to. Since the inner face of a curve is shorter than the outher face, the cards bend around because the smaller foil remains attached to the card.
If it got really warm, the card would bend the other way... or spontaneously combust...
Who's just been studying a bimetallic strip in school then...? ![[Wink]](../tcg/wink.gif) But curves may have something to do with it.
It can't be heat as they would revert to their former shape. It's probably due to the fact that they are made by rolling the holofoil layer onto the card. The compressions of binding the cards into a booster pack flatten them out but then as time goes by they revert back to their former curved shape. Normal cards are not rolled onto another layer, and are just cut straight from the sheet.
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ukpokemonpro
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posted October 13, 2002 07:47 AM
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It's probably due to the fact that they are made by rolling the holofoil layer onto the card. The compressions of binding the cards into a booster pack flatten them out but then as time goes by they revert back to their former curved shape. Normal cards are not rolled onto another layer, and are just cut straight from the sheet.
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Lord_Ninetales
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posted October 13, 2002 12:52 PM
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Originally posted by Hairy Clefairy:
[QBWho's just been studying a bimetallic strip in school then...? [/QB]
Well, I did... several years ago...
I didn't actually remeber the ol' bi-metallic strip until you said it, my reasoning was just based on the known facts... but its ALWAYS cold in Scotland, so I guess that explains the gap in my reasoning...
Your explaination works for me, or expansion/contraction for another reason (ie. absorbtion of moisture).
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Golduck
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posted October 17, 2002 11:35 PM
They bend in rooms with high air humidity. Just be careful not to store your cards in a bathroom, or near an aquarium or window.
[ October 17, 2002, 11:37 PM: Message edited by: Golduck ]
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