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nick15

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posted June 22, 2003 12:25 AM      Profile for nick15   Email nick15    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Yeah! Here's the almost-complete guide to ADV3, which is yet to be even released in Japan on the 25th. How do I do it? That's my secret!

http://www.fakecard.com/tcg/adv3/adv3spoiler.txt (the main ADV3 set)
http://www.fakecard.com/tcg/adv3/adv3precon.txt (The Salamance and Flygon mini-decks)

My picks of the set are Absol (DISCARD CARDS?! Discard decks were my favorite Magic deck, right time to make one for Pokemon too. [Wink] ) and Rayquaza-ex (dagnabbit cheep Pokemon).

.... And just so you know the ex-Pokemon in ADV3 are Muk, Magcargo, Kingdra, Dragonite, and Rayquaza. They're pretty tame this time around... Muk and Kingdra are loosely based off their previous popular personas (namely Fossil and Revelation, respectively). Dragonite's attack does 120 with a flip, I guess to combat other ex-types.

The big thing with ADV3 apparently is the Colorless weaknesses and dual Resistances... which is sort of annoying. But then again the card themselves aren't easy to use (most of them take dual energies, pretty much rendering them almost usless in competitve play), so....

At least TPC R&D is staying on their feet with the ex-Types, there's a few anti-ex cards in the set. Not enough to keep them in check though, one of them is a Pokemon (Shedinja) that's not easily splashible in every deck. Still, better than nothing.

Energy Plug though might be a card that'll make it's way into every deck. If my translation is correct, it'll allow you to skip any energy cost for an attack (effectively allowing you to attack for free for a turn). But this sound TOO broken in my honest opinion. Still, let's hope the actual card is close to what I've done.

Ok... that's all. Enjoy!

[ June 22, 2003, 07:52 PM: Message edited by: nick15 ]

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posted June 22, 2003 03:18 AM      Profile for Porygone3      Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
thats a messed up attack for Absol, I still think Pokemon advanced (Ruby/Saphire yadada) should be consedered a seprate set, I see just plain out broken combos allready... Engery plug would run 4 per deck: go big giant attacks!! yay. Free!! Broken. I wonder... thanks for the translation, I dont think most of that will make it here for some reasion, time will tell.

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posted June 22, 2003 07:33 AM      Profile for LizardOTC      Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Thank you again Nick!

The set looks excellent, except for Energy Plug, which will make this game a JOKE.

Turn 2 Tyranitar Trample, anyone?

Just look at all those Shining, Crystal and EX Pokémon waiting to meet Energy Plug. That one card will ruin the game, if it is printed with the text you translated.

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posted June 22, 2003 01:38 PM      Profile for Prime   Email Prime    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
New deck type.

1 Absol
4 Dark Energy
4 Rainbow Energy
4(something to get rainbw or dark)
and something else to take up the space.

What you do is because there is only one absol in your deck, you won't find it till like forever. So your opponent may draw one card each time. When you do find it, you play a dark on absol and you choose any side and it discards cards from there hand till they have 6 left. THAT IS SO AWESOME!@#$

Dragonite is awesome. Salamence will be played by all for its 60 damage and built in non flipping GOW. So many broken cards. Can't wait.

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posted June 22, 2003 01:54 PM      Profile for nick15   Email nick15    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Mind you, the raw translation for Energy Plug came out as:

The energy which is necessary for the attack to Pokemon attaching this card becomes without entirely. At the time of the attack, the trash designates this card as the Pokemon which attaches this card.

So I took it as what I wrote in the spoiler. Maybe when the set is released in a couple of days, someone could translate the card better than I could. [Smile]

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Meh. ADV 3 destroyed the usefulness of Dragon Pokemon. [Frown] That weakness to Colorless Pokemon will hurt a lot, while the multicolor attacks will render them useful mostly to mixed decks.

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posted June 22, 2003 03:01 PM      Profile for TheRealWobbuffet   Email TheRealWobbuffet    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
This is awesome Nick, thanks so much! I'm just wondering, will you possibly have access to translating a spoiler for the two minidecks that come with ADV3 (like you did with the three minidecks for ADV1) or is it too soon to tell?

Once again, thanks!

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posted June 22, 2003 03:59 PM      Profile for Golduck   Email Golduck    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Actually, I have attacked with Tyranitar's Trample on turn 2 several times. But then again, that was Unlimited.

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Originally posted by LizardOTC:

Turn 2 Tyranitar Trample, anyone?



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posted June 22, 2003 04:04 PM      Profile for nick15   Email nick15    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
This is awesome Nick, thanks so much! I'm just wondering, will you possibly have access to translating a spoiler for the two minidecks that come with ADV3 (like you did with the three minidecks for ADV1) or is it too soon to tell?

[checks Japanese site] Ah, so ADV3 DOES have their own mini-decks. I thought because ADV2 didn't have any, ADV3 wouldn't either. Looks like I just don't pay much attention. [Frown]

OK... I have the Japanese text for those 2 ADV3 mini-decks, I'll get the translations up as soon as possible. [Smile]

[ June 22, 2003, 04:12 PM: Message edited by: nick15 ]

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posted June 22, 2003 05:18 PM      Profile for TwutT   Email TwutT    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
quote:
Originally posted by Prime:
[QB]New deck type.

1 Absol
4 Dark Energy
4 Rainbow Energy
4(something to get rainbw or dark)
and something else to take up the space.

What you do is because there is only one absol in your deck, you won't find it till like forever. So your opponent may draw one card each time. When you do find it, you play a dark on absol and you choose any side and it discards cards from there hand till they have 6 left. THAT IS SO AWESOME!@#$

but 70 hp isn't that much .. and it's still a good chance that there will be something good among the 6 cards in opponents hand that will kill absol .. =\

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posted June 22, 2003 05:21 PM      Profile for Taichi   Email Taichi    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Seadra says choose one of the opponent's active and do 30 damage to it. I assume if your opponent has one baby and another pokemon active, you can attack the non-baby pokemon but can direct the effect to the baby?
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posted June 22, 2003 06:50 PM      Profile for TheRealWobbuffet   Email TheRealWobbuffet    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Thanks Nick, I look forward to seeing the translations of the minidecks, considering they will most likely be released as normal cards here. =D Or at least they better be [Razz]
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posted June 22, 2003 07:09 PM      Profile for The Dark Llama   Email The Dark Llama    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Question - YOu know how in attack costs Colorless means anything? Does that mean Rayquazza-EX is weak to everything??

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posted June 22, 2003 07:15 PM      Profile for TheRealWobbuffet   Email TheRealWobbuffet    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
I'm pretty sure that all of those dragon pokémon weak to colorless are weak to only colorless type pokémon (like Dratini is weak to Taillow but not Trapinch).
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posted June 22, 2003 07:29 PM      Profile for Taichi   Email Taichi    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Elderly advice is like a super scoop up that doesn't need to flip. It's a great card that I would put in my deck!

Defense charge is also great. It's like a defender but no need to discard unless you actually take damage. Too bad it can still prevent self damage but you would have to discard it.

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posted June 22, 2003 07:31 PM      Profile for Prime   Email Prime    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Maybe the energy plug says that if you have to discard an energy to do an attack, you don't have to this turn. And once you do that attack, it goes away.

I mean if you think of a plug, then you think that it plugs up something so that it doesn't leak or lose anything in it. So a pokemon would be plugged up so it doesn't lose it's energy.

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posted June 22, 2003 07:54 PM      Profile for nick15   Email nick15    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Ok, I edited my first post with a link to the Salamance and Flygon mini-decks. The cards are pretty pathetic compared to the rest of the set... [shrugs]

BTW, now is pretty much the wrong time to create official rulings based on my translations. I really only worded the attacks and such just to tell you what it does, and not so much to take into account any potential ruling dilemmas and so forth.

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posted June 22, 2003 09:05 PM      Profile for TheRealWobbuffet   Email TheRealWobbuffet    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Thank you Nick. Though the cards aren't impressive, it's nice to know what the other half of ADV3 is for EX3 (unless they release ADV2 and ADV3 + decks together).
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posted June 23, 2003 02:43 AM      Profile for The true lord of the pits   Email The true lord of the pits    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Well, looks like Elderly Advice isn't as horribly broken for EX Pokemon as I hoped it would be...

Looks like my all-EX Pokemon deck can enjoy nothing right now to compliment it... [Frown]

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Okay - as I'm not able to find card scans of the ADV series, I have acouple of questions:

Is the expansion symbol on the 30-card Japanese ADV(1) starters the same as the main (55 card) set?

If so, is the expansion symbol on the soon-to-be-released ADVx starters the same as that on the soon-to-be-released ADV3 set??

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As far as I know, the symbols are different, but they still all belong to ADV3. Nintendo will most likely release those deck cards over here with the regular EX3 anyway, so when that happens they will all have the same symbol (probably the ADV3 symbol).
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posted June 23, 2003 11:17 AM      Profile for nick15   Email nick15    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
In Japan the ADV1 mini-deck symbols were of Torchic, Mudskip, and Treecko, but still part of ADV1. In the US, the mini-decks were merged with the main set and released merely as "EX".

When ADV3 is released, the same will happen with the Salamance and Flygon mini-decks; they'll be resymboled with the ADV3 symbol and released in the US as "EX 3".

BTW, you won't find many scans of ADV3 on eBay, etc, because ADV3 is not out yet. [Wink]

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posted June 23, 2003 11:23 AM      Profile for TheRealWobbuffet   Email TheRealWobbuffet    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
There's actually quite a few on Yahoo! Japan Auctions so if you know how to browse around there, be sure to check it out.
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hey i'm very confussed is ADV the same as EX and why are there so many different sets eg. x,1,2 etc?
please i'm completely lost Here [Confused] [Confused] :confused
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posted June 23, 2003 02:24 PM      Profile for TheRealWobbuffet   Email TheRealWobbuffet    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Okay, EX is the English equivalent to ADV.

Released in Japan thusfar:
ADV1 + Three Minidecks
ADV2
ADV3 + Two Minidecks (well, on June 25th)

Released in English thusfar:
EX1 (Includes both ADV1 and the three minidecks that came with ADV1)

That clear anything up? The numbers are expansions, like Jungle and Fossil.

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