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Dunjohn
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posted January 29, 2003 02:59 PM      Profile for Dunjohn      Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Hope I'm in the right place with this...

Anyhow, I doubt anyone will remember me, seeing as how I quit the game over a year ago. I still loyally got at least one pack from every new expansion, though, to keep up with things. Despite that, however, there's a few gaps... would anyone mind helping me pretend I still know what I'm talking about whenever the conversation comes around to Pokemon TCG? I got 2 packs from Aquapolis, which has started to appear over here:

1: I got a holo Exeggutor, numbered H10/H32. I presume this is a holo subset; but do non-foil versions of them appear in the set?

2: I also got a common Drowzee numbered 74a/147. What does the "a" mean?

3: 32+147=179. The pack says the set has 186 in it. What are the other 7? Secret, Shining Gyarados-style cards? If so, they're not too well hidden...

4: In the Exeggutor pack, I also got a rare, non-holo Scizor. That's two rares in the pack. Is that irregular?

5: Both packs contained reverse-holo versions of "normal" cards (as well as the normal-holo Exeggutor). So did my single booster of Expedition. Are they one-to-a-pack?

6: The info bars contain a line of letters such as "ID: D-58". What does that mean?

7: And finally, what's the difference between a Poke-Body and a Poke-Power?

8: And even more finally, I remember one of the boxes of Expedition openned by the shop had a large Mewtwo card illustrated by Christopher Rush. Up to now, all the art has been done by Japanese artists, and all my Expedition/Aquapolis ones are, too. What's the story there?

9: And definitely finally (I keep thinking up more questions [Smile] ) Has Wizards caught up on the Japanese releases yet? Is Japan still a couple of sets ahead? Has Wizards made it's own set yet?

This took longer than I expected (especially because I had to go back and type "holo" over "foil" three times), but any help would be great. And if I'm in the wrong forum, go ahead and move/lock/ban! Cheers!

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Nu Gundam

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posted January 29, 2003 03:15 PM      Profile for Nu Gundam   Email Nu Gundam    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Well well... long time no see then [Wink] (As a Magic Player, I know you at least by name) . Anyways, here are the answers...

1. The non-holo versions do exist. (What? You mean I need to find three holo Aquapolis Zapdos for my deck?)

2. I would assume it has something to do with the e-Card Reader (Since I'm lack of one)

3. 4 of the cards (Porygon, Drowzee, Mr. Mime, and Golduck) have a/b versions. There are 3 "Chase Rares" as "Crystal" Kingdra, "Crystal" Lugia, and "Crystal" Nidoking

4. Now all the packs that have Regular Holo rare will come with a second non holo rare

5. Yes they are

6. I ... do not know, sorry

7. Pokemon Power is now seperated into PokeBody and PokePower. PokeBody are permanent effects while PokePower is either one time or once per turn. They are both affected by Muk, Pichu, Iggybuff, etc.

8. Remember Promo #12 aka Telekinesis Mewtwo? Christopher Rush drew that Mewtwo. What happened to him afterwards is unknown...

9. Wizards is still behind. When will the Wizards' own set be out? TBD [Razz]

Hope that helps...

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Gym Leader Blaine

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posted January 29, 2003 03:20 PM      Profile for Gym Leader Blaine   Email Gym Leader Blaine    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
To answer some of your question:

1)Yes, it is a subset, and some of the cards do have a non-holo to them

2)There are a total of 3 common and 1 uncommon card that have a "a" and "b" to them. I think it is the attacks are the same, just different pictures. I have gotten all 4 of the cards, but not there opposites in the box I open.

3)The 7 other cards are: 4 from the "a" "b", and three are secret Crystal Pokemon.

4)No it is not irregular. You will get a non-holo rare in every pack, and also a reverse foil in everyone also. Some of the packs have also H-number rares in them, so really you have a chance of getting a total of three rares in one pack. A non-holo rare, Reverse foil rare, and a H-number one. I think out of my box this happen to me 4 or five times.

5)the reverse holos are one per pack, and in every pack.

I will leave the rest for someone eles to answer.

GLB

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posted January 29, 2003 03:26 PM      Profile for Skywolf1   Email Skywolf1    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Dunjohn:

I remember you! Welcome Back [Smile]

First things first: The cards now from "Expedition", "Aqua", and the forthcoming "Skyridge" sets, are designed to be used with the E-Card Reader peripherial that can be purchased seperately to work in conjunction with the Game Boy Advance game console.

2. The H-1/H-32 is a new numbering system used with the Aqua set to signify "Holo" cards, as to avoid confusion with Holo and Non-holo cards with regards to numbering.

3. The "Bar Codes" along the bottom and along the sides of some cards, are Stats for Pokemon, and the "side" codes are parts for games for the Game Boy Advance.

Anyway, I hope you decide to get back into the game again, as the card pool is greatly expanded with the release of the newer sets.

HTH,

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posted January 29, 2003 03:38 PM      Profile for Intruder   Email Intruder    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
well
1ş i think yes they do
2ş there are 2 cards a and b. the card a when u usit in the GBA lets u play a game read a tip etc and the letter b gives u another diferent thing (another game or a tip etc.)(i spect u know about the game in gba)
3ş the cards missing ara 180/179, 181/179 etc
4ş yes it is u get a rare and a reverse holo. (in e1 if u can get a rare a rare foil and a reverse holo (this reverse holo can be rare or not)
5ş what's r normal cards? (i think i answer this question in nş 4
6ş is an info of the card (i don't know is if something for gba
7ş and finaly XD poke body is inflicted only in the pkm that has the poke body
poke power is inflicted on the rest of the game
8ş and even more finaly i understand that all the cards of wotc r copies of japanese ones
9ş and definetly finaly, i think u mean if wotc has realased all the japanese cards whith that of "caught up on" i say no. (wotc has realased until japanese e3 (aquapolis is japanese e2 and e3) and japan has realased e5 and now the advance cards.
i dont know pherhaps legendary is from wotc
This took a lot of time (especialy because i had to go down to read the next question
that's all my help i think it will helps u
CYA

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posted January 29, 2003 03:47 PM      Profile for Intruder   Email Intruder    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
since i write the answer other people answer u [Dubious]

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posted January 29, 2003 03:53 PM      Profile for Soslowpoke   Email Soslowpoke    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
1: I got a holo Exeggutor, numbered H10/H32. I presume this is a holo subset; but do non-foil versions of them appear in the set?

All the regular foil versions of cards in Aquapolis are numbered separately since
1- They are printed separately from other cards in the factory (not really that important) and
2- There aren't reverse foils that account for holo cards. (Like in Expedition, there'd be 2 Identical Reverse foil Dragonites but one had a different number. But yes, non-foil versions do appear in the set.

2: I also got a common Drowzee numbered 74a/147. What does the "a" mean?
There are 3 other a/b cards in the set. These basically denote that the cards do different things in the ereader. (Drowzee a does something different from what Drowzee b does)

3: 32+147=179. The pack says the set has 186 in it. What are the other 7? Secret, Shining Gyarados-style cards? If so, they're not too well hidden...
Add the 3 Crystal Pokemon, plus the 4 b versions of cards, and you have 186

4: In the Exeggutor pack, I also got a rare, non-holo Scizor. That's two rares in the pack. Is that irregular?

2 Nonholo rares is irregular, but not 1 rare and 1 reverse foil rare

5: Both packs contained reverse-holo versions of "normal" cards (as well as the normal-holo Exeggutor). So did my single booster of Expedition. Are they one-to-a-pack?
1 reverse foil to a booster. 1 rare to a booster. 1:3 boosters have a holofoil card instead of a common

6: The info bars contain a line of letters such as "ID: D-58". What does that mean?
Nobody really knows...

7: And finally, what's the difference between a Poke-Body and a Poke-Power?
PokeBody's aren't shut off by Special Conditions

8: And even more finally, I remember one of the boxes of Expedition openned by the shop had a large Mewtwo card illustrated by Christopher Rush. Up to now, all the art has been done by Japanese artists, and all my Expedition/Aquapolis ones are, too. What's the story there?

The Christopher Rush Mewtwo is actually a box topper from the Legendary Collection set. He did the art for that one promo card that was reprinted in Legendary Collection.

9: And definitely finally (I keep thinking up more questions ) Has Wizards caught up on the Japanese releases yet? Is Japan still a couple of sets ahead? Has Wizards made it's own set yet?

Nope, now they're only 3 sets behind though [Big Grin]

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posted January 29, 2003 04:10 PM      Profile for Dugtrio1951   Email Dugtrio1951    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Welcome back, Dunjohn, glad to have you!

Everyone has answered your questions pretty well except for a couple of things...

As for the ID-D4 type stuff, it's kind of the substitute for putting Pokémon levels (Lv. 30, Lv. 44, etc.) on the cards. I guess they got tired of putting levels on cards?... Other than telling two Houndours or something apart from each other by telling their ID numbers, there really is no purpose to the IDs.

Intruder, I'm afraid you're wrong about Legendary Collection being a Wizards-made set. Legendary Collection (or LC as it's usually called) is a reprint set, like a Base Set 3 of sorts. It has cards from Base Set, Jungle, Fossil, and Team Rocket, plus a single Promo: the #12 Mewtwo (drawn by Christopher Rush, as you mentioned). Its Booster Packs are designed with Sealed play in mind because any one Booster will have Pokémon all of the same type (such as getting a Booster with nothing but Fire Pokémon in it). Also, one or two evolution lines are in each Booster. (For example, there would be two Charmander and one Charmeleon in a Booster pack, to help with evolution in a Limited deck.)

Starting with Legendary Collection, every set has/will have "box toppers", which are jumbo-sized cards that are on top of the Boosters in a Booster box. There are four different cards made into box toppers per set.

Dunjohn, now is a great time to get back into the game. The most recent set, Aquapolis, has a LOT of great, playable cards in it. The one before it, Expedition, has bunches of useful Pokémon and Trainers in it as well, and since it's still pretty recent you can probably still find it in good quantities. If you just get one box of each of those sets, that would be plenty get you started for playing Modified nowadays.

Hope we all helped you out,

-Dugtrio

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posted January 29, 2003 06:49 PM      Profile for nick15   Email nick15    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
I'm fixing some holes where the rain gets in... and stops my mind rom wandering...

* Wizards is working on their own set, it's been an open secret for about a year now. But they have yet to release it (obviously). There isn't much I can say about it though (hush hush).

* The ID business on Expedition and Aquapolis cards is for your GBA E-Reader. Since the name "Golduck" might mean almost ANY Golduck card, they slap on the "ID: D-14" stuff just so that you know what you need to scan. So say when you scan one part of a little thingy into your E-Reader, it'll also say "Please Scan In.... Golduck D-14". So you'd search through all your Golducks until you find "D-14" and then you scan that one. Simple, no?

* The same goes for a/b versions of cards; Each of them have different E-Reader information when you slide them. Drowzee A will do something different than Drowzee B when you scan it in.

* Concerning the Mewtwo by Christopher Rush; the original Japanese promo looked almost exactly like Movie Promo Mewtwo (in fact they used the same image that Ken Sugimori drew, just with a different background). To prevent ambiguity as to which Mewtwo is which, Wizards got Media Factory's (aka TPC) permission to redraw the image. And Mr. Rush was the lucky duck to do it.

* Wizards is about 2 and a half sets behind Japan, say 8 months or so back. With the release of Skyridge (before summer hopefully), they'll probably be at the closest they've been to Japan for quite some time.

Holes fixed. Cracks filled. Good times. Welcome back too! [Wink]

[ January 29, 2003, 06:52 PM: Message edited by: nick15 ]

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Dunjohn
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posted January 31, 2003 01:49 PM      Profile for Dunjohn      Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Wow, that's great. Thanks! That's answered everything, plus one or two things I'd intended to ask tonight.

I'm half-thinking about giving some thought to seriously considering maybe taking the game up again. I didn't get tired of it, or "grow out" of it or anything, it's just that it died off completely here. In fact I kept up the hobby for almost a year after I'd played my final match. When none of the stores bothered getting Neo destiny in I called it a day.
Still have all my old cards, though. And anticipation of Ruby/Sapphire is starting to leak over; I actually saw an episode the other day, for the first time in months. But, the game would have to pick up considerably before I'd start buying seriously. I'm already playing Magic and Star Wars.

Cheers again for the replies! That should sort me out for another couple of sets!

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posted January 31, 2003 02:05 PM      Profile for Dugtrio1951   Email Dugtrio1951    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Well, you can always start bugging local retailers to get Aquapolis in. =) And try to suck some of your friends into the game, advertise, convince one of the stores to start up a League/BattleZone. If the game isn't big in your area, make it big!

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posted January 31, 2003 09:49 PM      Profile for mysterioustrainer   Email mysterioustrainer    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
To be specific about a and b here we go.

For Golduck, card a will add to the "ACTION Game" Construction Piece. The b card has a secret attack.

Both Drowzees are required to download a seven card Mini-game (I am missing one card for this so I don't not know what the card is).

Mr. Mime A is used to add to the mini-game I formentioned, while the B contains A Meledy Box Construction Piece.

Porygon A, is like Golducks, one Action Piece and B has a secret attack.

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