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Topic: my daughter wants to start playing...help!
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salixivy
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posted April 02, 2003 04:20 AM
AHHH! I know more internal algal biology than I do about Pokemon. However, my 4 yr old doesn't want to play with protists (wonder why?). She wants to play Pokemon like all the older kids at daycare.
I need your expert advise...Where do I start!
thanks for any help,
a new pokedad
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BJJ763
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posted April 02, 2003 04:33 AM
One of the best places to start is with a 2 player Starter deck. It has 2 30-card decks that you and your daughter can play with. Then you can combine both decks into one deck. You can next get another Theme deck (like the Starter but not for learning how to play the game) and battle against her.
HERE! is some on-line reading that you can do if you don't have a Starter.
You might wish to peruse the Deck section, it's probably more advanced that what you're looking for but you may pick up some ideas after she's learned the basics of the game.
Welcome to the wonderful world of Pokémon. Hope you and your daughter have a good time.
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posted April 02, 2003 04:44 AM
Personally, I'd say grab one of the better pre-constructed decks like the ones from Expedition and Aquapolis sets, sit her down, and read each card to her and make sure she understands what each one can do and go from there. If you can get another deck to play with her it's even better. That way you'll both learn "the mechanics" of the game together. Join a nearby league and learn some more strategies and slowly build up your supply of cards at a pace she can understand (and you can afford). I wish you the best of luck. Good to see you joining the game. ![[pileson]](../tcg/graemlins/pileon.gif)
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salixivy
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posted April 02, 2003 04:44 AM
thanks much for the input. I happened to buy a theme deck yesterday ($4.99 for the Grass Chopper deck). I think I may need to get the starter! Anyone else with input?
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posted April 02, 2003 05:22 AM
Hi ![[Smile]](../tcg/smile.gif)
You can go here to learn some of the advanced aspects of the game, you can go here to view card rulings, you can go here to view decks for little children, or you can go here to learn some of the basics of the PTCG.
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EDIT- I just realized that per the maintainence work on the forums the decks for little children topic will not be there until the topics get restored. The link should start working today or tomarrow.
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posted April 02, 2003 06:27 AM
Rather than start with a current pre-constructed deck, I would strongly recommend looking for either the Base Set two player starter, or the Base Set 2 two player starter. The newer decks have more complex cards (stadiums, tools, supporters etc.) which IMHO should be thrown into the mix AFTER learning the basics of game-play.
These starter sets can often be found at stores like KayBee Toys for as low as 3/$10; the Base Set 2 starter has the advantage of having the "PlayIt!" CD-ROM included, which has a game tutorial/walkthrough/play against the computer feature. This would be a GREAT way for your daughter to learn the game (and as an added bonus, the 'player' on the CD-ROM is a girl).
There is also a Base Set 2 starter which came with a VHS tape; having seen that tape, I'd STRONGLY recommend getting the CD-ROM version of the deck, if you have the choice.
Good luck...
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posted April 02, 2003 07:23 AM
While I don't have a strong recommendation regarding the deck to use, I will give you encouragement about the task at hand. It is possible to teach a 4 yr old how to play the game.
Now, she may not be ready to play others without some help for a while. However, back before Columbus abandoned Pokemon League play, we had a pretty good location on the Far East Side. The kids and I taught one brother sister combo one weekend; he was 3 or 4 and she was 7 or 8. He went on to become one of the better players at his age.
As for the parent learning to play, I recommend making use of the Wizards.com online Flash demonstration first, to get a handle on some of the basics. Then I recommend, if possible, getting a copy of the Pokemon Trading Card Game Gameboy game, which is very similar (though somewhat different). Playing these two gives the parent a 'guided tour' of how to play most of teh rules.
Too bad Wizards or Nintendo doesn't provide the online community access to the software so that we could update it to account for the current rules and cards...
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salixivy
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posted April 02, 2003 10:59 AM
thanks to everyone who has posted so far.
My next question is this:
Where is a good place to buy singles(cheap, I am!)?
None of the card stores in my area sell single Pokemon- my daughter isn't ready yet for the 9 cards for 3.00 boosters.
thanks
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posted April 02, 2003 11:20 AM
Well, there is, of course eBay, as well as the WizPog trading forum.
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BJJ763
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posted April 02, 2003 11:29 AM
Cheap singles? Dunno (i'd rather trade or booster dive for singles).
Cheap Boosters - KB Toys usually has older booster for $1.99 or even $0.99! Catch them when they're on sale and oh boy!!!!
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posted April 02, 2003 12:58 PM
Ya. KB toys had an overstock apparently, and coincidentally in every store too... ![[Roll Eyes]](../tcg/rolleyes.gif)
You can really get them mega cheap there, and in huge quanities too. However, the newer set booster packs can be as much asb $5 at times, so watch out and don't buy them there.
I hope your daughter will do O.K. with the Pokemon Trading Card Game. I just know she will love it! ![[Bounce]](../tcg/graemlins/jump.gif) I wish you and her the best of luck with the game. Don't let those retailers rip you off! ![[Wink]](../tcg/wink.gif)
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posted April 02, 2003 01:27 PM
If you don't mint to buy cards outside the USA, you can email me. I'm a player and collector with a website with lots of single unused pokemoncards.
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posted April 02, 2003 02:10 PM
I sell my double cards cheap. Rares go for about a buck each and holos for 2.50-4.00 average. I also have TONS of Commons and Uncommons (5 - 3 inch binders full of doubles) that I will sell for little to nothing. If you want a list of rares and holos you can view my topic in the trading forum here. It is on the second page probably. I have all commons and uncommons for trade except Neo Genesis Noctowl and some Aquapolis. E-mail me if you are interested.
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posted April 02, 2003 06:21 PM
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Originally posted by salixivy:
thanks to everyone who has posted so far.
My next question is this:
Where is a good place to buy singles(cheap, I am!)?
thanks
Tell ya what - I buy cards by the case so I have hundreds of extras. Contact me via email - we'll work out something for you to pay postage and I'll send you a "sampler" from several sets. Note - no charge for the cards - you just pay for postage. Now there will be no rares - just commons and uncommons but there will be plenty to build decks from.
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posted April 02, 2003 07:43 PM
That's a generous offer there ScythKing.
Other than the above mentioned methods, if there's a swapmeet in your area, or something similar, look for some kind of a collectors booth. If they still carry Pokemon, chances are they'll carry it dirt cheap.
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posted April 02, 2003 07:51 PM
When my daughter (who was 6 at the time) and I tried to learn the game (when it first came out), we found the rule book to be unwieldy.
Just by reading the book, we were having a hard time understanding the differences between hand, deck, discard, active, bench, etc. I remember at one point we thought that you dealt 7 cards and, whatever you've got, that's it. No more cards for the rest of the game. That's how messed up we were.
Someone had written a walkthrough/tutorial and put it on the Internet explaining what you can do on each turn. I printed it out and took it on a business trip with me. It was 4 or 5 pages and I remember being in a hotel room in the middle of Nowhere, TX reading this thing and it all came together for me.
I highly recommend doing some Googling looking for any kind of Pokemon TCG tutorial (you'll get a lot of Gameboy hits, so make sure you "minus" out GB, Gameboy, and Nintendo). I've tried looking around but not found anything yet.
I second Pokemom's suggestion of looking for Base 2 starter decks. When I've taught friends to play, I've started of with very simply decks with just Pokemon, energy, and trainer. Then I've added in powers, babies, stadiums, and special energies. Then brought in tools and supporters.
If you have a Battle Zone nearby, you should go. People are very good about helping out new players and will probably get happy to share extra cards with you.
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posted April 02, 2003 08:56 PM
In regards to Starter decks, I recommend either Blackout from Base Set. Overall, Blackout is one of the stronger starter decks straight out of the box.
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posted April 03, 2003 12:21 PM
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Originally posted by Dark and Vile:
I highly recommend doing some Googling looking for any kind of Pokemon TCG tutorial
I'm uncertain what tutorial Dark and Vile found, but I know that I have used Dan's Interactive poke'mon demo as well as some other resources you will find at my web site.
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posted April 03, 2003 12:23 PM
Apparently though, Dan's site is down. Perhaps if you googled for it, you could look in the google 'cache' and find the pages.
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posted April 03, 2003 04:46 PM
the base set 2 starter deck is really the best choice....it has a cd-rom with it that walks you through the entire game play process, it really helps if you are "clueless" about how to play the game, you will be playing in no time after viewing/playing it on the cd-rom........hope this helps, welcome to the community!
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posted April 17, 2003 09:14 AM
I would suggest, as everyone else has, the Base2 Starter ad nalso the Echo Expedition decks.. Base 2 has the Cd-rom for interaction.. and the Echo deck contains 2 Rare Alakazam which as she gets older and plays more, can be helpful in game mechanics and things of that nature.. the biggest suggestion is to play with her often. When my son and I first started at the onset of Pokemon, he was 4-5.. and we playedevery night.. just so he could learn the deck he played in and out.. this helps quite a bit.. the memorization of the cards is helpful.. but the most fun was the bond we made while playing Enjoy the time and Welcome to the Family ![[Big Grin]](../tcg/biggrin.gif)
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posted April 17, 2003 10:29 AM
WARNING: Pokemon is an addictive sort of game.
Once you start, you may find you, and your daughter may really enjoy the strategy of the game.
My son started playing at age 4, and it helped teach him to read. He would never "trust" the opposing player, and always wanted to read the cards for himself so he could keep up with his big brother.
Now my boys are 7 and 9 and still going strong. It's so bad, we are taking one day out of our vacation to play at a tourney in Tennessee! God love this game!
See you on the boards! Find a local Battlezone, it is a great place to learn how to play!
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posted April 17, 2003 04:36 PM
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thanks to everyone who has posted so far.
My next question is this:
Where is a good place to buy singles(cheap, I am!)?
None of the card stores in my area sell single Pokemon- my daughter isn't ready yet for the 9 cards for 3.00 boosters.
thanks
well, not to sound like the minority or anything, but sometimes, it is a good idea to buy booster packs. This is a great way for you and your daughter to learn about the other cards that are out there in the world, as well as thinking of new strategies.
As for finding singles, i suggest this website:
wccg.com (West Coast Card Games). I have been to this site a few times. They have some real good deals on singles, theme decks, and booster packs. For example, they might sell an entire box of booster packs for $80, which is a pretty good deal since your getting about $10 off the normal price. They also have singles for very cheap prices (whether they are Japanese, American, French, Spanish, Rare, Holo-Foils, or even Promos).
The only problems you might be facing are the Shipping and Handeling fees.
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posted April 17, 2003 04:47 PM
Like your daughter's age,I would suggest you play with a two player starter set.If your child age is old enough eg. 10 or 11,you can buy a theme deck directly.
When she can learn Basic aspects of the game,you can buy a theme deck. This helps her to learn some strategies of the game.
When her level is the expert level,buy some boosters.Ask her to build a deck from the card she gets. Then test the deck against another deck to see her deck strong enough or not.
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posted April 20, 2003 03:56 PM
Here's my step-by-step guide to introducing the TCG to new players...
1) Start off with a 2-player Starter set. Two decks with 30 cards each, a coin, some damage counters, and a handy little rulebook that teaches you how to play.
2) After you've memorized the basic mechanics of gameplay (how to start a game, how to draw, how to bench, how to attack, etc.), start looking through some advanced-level decks to find a game strategy that you like. Get one or two of the decks and start practicing playing with them. Once you've figured out how to effectively work the strategy behind that deck (ex. Overgrowth is based on getting big pokemon out fast, whereas Brushfire deals with making your pokemon do more damage turn after turn), it's time to work on a deck of your own.
3) You don't have to buy booster pack after booster pack to get the cards you want, but if you want a chance at getting a rare or uncommon card along with a common you want, you might want to invest in a few booster packs. Use a search engine online to find pictures or scans of cards from every available set, and look over them to see what cards are out there that might work best in your personal favorite strategy. You can find singles for sale just about anywhere you'll find cards for sale.
NOTE: Mastering the game won't happen in a week, nor even a month, unless your daughter is super gifted. Every day, practice playing the game with her. When she starts seeing the game for what it is, she'll find room for commitment.
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