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Topic: European release? EX Ruby & Sapphire
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Moltres
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posted June 18, 2003 04:21 AM
Does anyone know when this set will be released in Europe?
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ukpokemonpro
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posted June 18, 2003 05:12 AM
Well as you can order it online with shipping cheaper than you could get it from our distributors here in the UK if they had any then guess what Nintendo?
You just continued the grey market in Pokemon TCG
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NoPoke
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posted June 18, 2003 05:36 AM
Moltres... you'd have more chance of a reply if you asked what next weeks winning lottery numbers were going to be !
release dates? Europe ![[ROFL]](../tcg/graemlins/roflmao.gif)
But, as ukpokemonpro has pointed out.. the cards will be available real soon through the usual channels *cry* *sigh* ![[Frown]](../tcg/frown.gif)
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Moltres
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posted June 18, 2003 09:37 AM
Some people said to me that the Nintendo sets will only be availble from people in the USA
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mysterioustrainer
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posted June 18, 2003 10:35 AM
Nintendo still hasn't revealed their international partners for the game yet however they have expanded their www.pokemon-tcg.com site and there will be a international play portion of the site to be opened soon, so that is some good news.
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NoPoke
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posted June 19, 2003 12:05 AM
Myst is right...don't jump to conclusions about Europe just yet... we will get the stuff, maybe a little behind the USA but it will arrive.
From memory there is an ebayer in the Nederlands who always seems to have cards available within days of the USA release.
Ben has located a UK arm of a USA distributor that is planning on having the cards by the 25th.
Trade barriers tariffs and Trade mark Law may be able to reduce the flow of goods internationally but they can't stop it entirely.
I know that some are unable to engage in personal imports for lack of a credit card facility but there are lots of committed adults out there who will help.. isn't that right Michel ![[Wink]](../tcg/wink.gif)
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'legal stalling' : game loss at least
'only joking' on misreported match results: DQ Yep its that serious!
The prize swap penalty as it applies to shuffling.
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Michel
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posted June 19, 2003 04:51 AM
Yup Nopoke, absolutely right
Some will maybe disagree with me, but I think it's a part of what we must do for our players and card collectors.
Helping people who don't have a credit card, who don't speak English, don't have a web connection, ... to find cards they don't have and don't find is as important for our kids (and parents) as running or judging events.
Imagine Europe without internet and people who use it to find cards ... no Japanese cards, no US cards, lot of promos missing, sometimes no league kits, ... ![[Razz]](../tcg/tongue.gif)
[ June 19, 2003, 04:52 AM: Message edited by: Michel ]
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Moltres
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posted June 19, 2003 04:55 AM
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From memory there is an ebayer in the Nederlands who always seems to have cards available within days of the USA release.
who's that?
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Moltres
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posted June 19, 2003 06:58 AM
Yeah ofcourse.
I know them already. I thought there where some other people.
They don't sell theme deck, do they?
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Golduck
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posted June 24, 2003 04:11 AM
Nintendo will release the Ruby/Sapphire expansion this year in Europe. But why not right now? It's the e-Reader, guys. It's all about the frickin' e-Reader AGAIN. Remember the crisis around Expedition's release, when Nintendo tried to stop Wizards Europe from releasing Expedition because their e-Reader was not available in Europe yet?
But this time, Wizards Europe have nothing to say. So this time, Nintendo will do exactly like they want to. And sadly, Nintendo of Europe aren't very good at making decisions. At all.
The Nintendo e-Reader will be released in November 2003 in Europe. So November 2003 will also be when we'll find the first Pokémon-e boosters in stores. The release schedule for the e-Reader boosters is like this:
Donkey Kong-e
e-Card
november
Excitebike-e
e-Card
november
Mario Bros-e
e-Card
november
Pokémon-e
e-Card
november
Tennis-e
e-Card
november
Yes, that "Pokémon-e" there is the Ruby/Sapphire expansion that USA is getting right now. Why? Because USA have had the e-Reader for ages, and we have to wait before we get this fantastic and exciting electronical device (/sarcasm) and its cards.
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ukpokemonpro
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posted June 24, 2003 05:11 AM
Who cares as I am now able to buy R&S cheaper in the US with shipping than I can in the UK.
Nintendo UK have already been hit by Ruby and Sapphire GBA game imports but have not learnt the lesson of the 21st Century ... The net has delivered global shopping and global delivery you can't regionalise you markets anymore the determined shopper will be able to buy..
Just check the link below
http://212.100.234.54/content/54/30424.html
Certainly in the UK we are gonna grab the bargains and jump at the chance of cheap cards from the US ahead of our expensive UK official release...
Ho HUM when will they learn...
Then again we do realise we risk our op support because gray imports only push up the US sales and lower ours
Still we told WotC and now we are gonna have to tell Nintendo simultaneous worldwide release or as near to it as you can..
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"a meaningless title is just that ... meaningless"
"London Super Battlezone 2003"
quote the judge...
'only joking' on misreported match results: DQ Yep its that serious!
14,000 deck boxes yeah we'll take all of them .... what have I done!
Find the Pokemon League and Tournaments in Kent at:The Gamers Guild
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NoPoke
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posted June 24, 2003 07:23 AM
November... we'll all have completed our R&S sets long before then LOL
we'll be collecting the next release by then.
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'Good News' or 'Bad News' but NOT NO NEWS
some people brag about their tournament results, me I'm gonna brag??? about what players have managed to get past me LOL
-------Hoodwinked---(things I won't get wrong again...)------
'legal stalling' : game loss at least
'only joking' on misreported match results: DQ Yep its that serious!
The prize swap penalty as it applies to shuffling.
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Moltres
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posted June 24, 2003 07:41 AM
Yeah, I order a boosterbox.
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ukpokemonpro
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posted June 24, 2003 08:34 AM
Well as I am ordering for myself and a few others plus my league I ordered a case and a half ![[Smile]](../tcg/smile.gif)
Ooooo where's mr Mewtwo EX ... ![[Love]](../tcg/graemlins/love.gif)
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"a meaningless title is just that ... meaningless"
"London Super Battlezone 2003"
quote the judge...
'only joking' on misreported match results: DQ Yep its that serious!
14,000 deck boxes yeah we'll take all of them .... what have I done!
Find the Pokemon League and Tournaments in Kent at:The Gamers Guild
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Michel
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posted June 24, 2003 01:46 PM
Golduck, that confirms what I was afraid of.
November release means that we'll not have OP, support, ... and cards for at least 5 months.
If this is true ...
Sure we'll have the cards, and yes we'll probably have R&S 2 at that time, but most of the players in Belgium will probably have their third Yu Gi Oh set, play Yu Gi Oh tournaments, and will have forgotten Pokemon.
Two examples in Belgium : Charleroi where I run tournaments on a regular basis : almost every player play YGO too. Vise (Jean Marc Schosse's league) : everybody play YGO during the Pokemon league.
The Dutch part of the country start playing too. We may not forget that the biggest Belgian distributor (Pokemon, Magic, YuGiOh, ...) is situated in the dutch part of the country and they're putting a lot of efforts in YGO (special website, qualifier for Worlds, OP, ...).
Their communication about YGO is excellent too and the cards are available everywhere (and it's really hard to find Skyridge).
I will not repeat what I've said during the 'Expedition fight'. But who cares of that E-reader, except Nintendo ?
Is that a great strategical marketing option to have cards and the reader on the market when the players will be gone ?
I've been one of the most 'aggressive' for Expedition in Europe. Don't be afraid, I'll not move for R&S.
We still have players (we have worked hard for that !), we are, as Profs and Master Profs, ready to help the game in our countries, most of us have said that to Nintendo, but if they don't want to listen to the people who are every week with the players and who see what happens on the field, that's ok for me.
I'm just a judge, a TO, a player, I'm not a expert in marketing strategy
And, BTW, if the reader and the cards are distributed like the GBA SP (out of stock since the end of April in Belgium and impossible to find), we'll have the official R&S 1 cards in the shops long after Harry Potter's wedding
Ben, I've placed the same order as you, but I've also ordered YGO Metal Raiders boxes (released in France and in the UK in a couple of days) in France. That's what I call 'to answer to the players demand'
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posted June 24, 2003 03:06 PM
This release list was something I got from Nintendo of Norway. Maybe it isn't 100 % official yet, it could still change. So maybe we shouldn't panic until Nintendo of Europe has made an official statement about this, and told us in case, why it is so. But I personally don't think the November date will change...
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posted June 24, 2003 04:01 PM
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everybody play YGO during the Pokemon league.
i remember i did this *bows head in shame*. yugioh is dying here. since the time change, only 5 people at max have shown up for yugioh, so were going to change back the time. just to put more action in the yugioh league, the staff let us play pokemon (yea!). If this decrease of people continues, i'm gonna sell cards directly from my deck (yugioh).
I entend to make it a rule that no yugioh play is to take place while pokemon is occuring. Though with all the table space taken, i don't think it'll be an issue with me. You might want to consider that rule at your league, Michel. Hope it works.
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posted June 24, 2003 10:35 PM
From what I can gather from putting WotC and TPC info together with the little we have from Nintendo here is what I believe is going to happen for European OP.
1. WotC have stated European OP lasts until end of September.. except for the UK that is on the US release schedule so we end in August
2. TPC (UK) have stated that they are working with NOA on OP in Europe and are trying to have it in place for September .. if that works there is no gap in OP just a gap in official availability of R&S (mmm now where will we get them from now?)
3. NOA have definitely said we get OP.
Think so what if there is no support for a few months use boosters as prizes, buy off eBay and horde some of what you are getting now. The UK and Europe has survived in the past we can do it again..
I know we are tired of fighting and scratching about for support but now is not the time to give up... Yu Gi Oh if you want to the UK is not for turning (Handbaggings all round I think)
We will get OP and we will get the cards .. now all we have to do is persuade Nintendo to speed things up a little ..
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"London Super Battlezone 2003"
quote the judge...
'only joking' on misreported match results: DQ Yep its that serious!
14,000 deck boxes yeah we'll take all of them .... what have I done!
Find the Pokemon League and Tournaments in Kent at:The Gamers Guild
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posted June 25, 2003 12:08 AM
Shadowcard, I don't allow YGO during Pokemon tournaments. But our leagues are linked to shops ... and YGO is a better product for the shop owners now. They don't care if the players are playing one game or another, the important thing for them is selling cards
We have to take that into account too, and respect the desires of the people who give us room to play... if we want to keep that room for our players.
Ukpokemonpro, I'm sure we'll have OP and cards (we already have the second ).
The question is WHEN ?
One little example ? France has lost Pokemon OP thanks to Wizards France. They now have the biggest YGO community in Europe because the players have found a game with leagues, tournaments, other players to talk to, cards available everywhere (once again, it is not the case with Pokemon in Belgium - at least in the shops), ...
I don't believe Nintendo will have OP without cards. That would be an open door to grey import, and I don't think they really like that
I hope you understand I really hope that everything will be OK for our game in our countries, that what I've said in my previous post will not happen.
But yes, like you say, 'tired of fighting to survive'.
On one side, you have the players. They consider you as 'an official representative of the game'. They want information, leagues, tournaments, cards, prizes, league support, ... like they've always had, especially in the beginning when everything was easier.
Unfortunately some (most ?) of them don't even appreciate what you do for the game and for them.
On the other side you have companies (making a lot of money with the game) with who you have 'to fight to survive', who attack you if you buy cards abroad to make your players happy, who have big marketing strategies, ... And in Europe we also have local distributors who make money on the game too !
Do you like sandwiches with ham ? I do, but I don't like to be the ham pressed between the two slices of bread
You're talking about Nintendo in the UK ... but we know for a long time that, for Pokemon, UK is not in Europe
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posted June 25, 2003 08:42 AM
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I know we are tired of fighting and scratching about for support but now is not the time to give up...
you Europeans are a tough kind, after all the disappointements in support, you guys are still holding there. Just have to admire that loyalty.
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France has lost Pokemon OP thanks to Wizards France.
I'm not to read up on how OP works, a lot of what i know is from assuming. How exactly does a entire country lose its OP program?
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They (france) now have the biggest YGO community in Europe
and France's yugioh website still doesn't look anymore updated than it did 2 months ago. Is this Upperdeck's first really successful game?
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posted June 25, 2003 10:08 AM
Hasbro reduced the staff at the French office to two people... all they could handle was then Magic and even that was tough I hear.
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'legal stalling' : game loss at least
'only joking' on misreported match results: DQ Yep its that serious!
The prize swap penalty as it applies to shuffling.
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posted June 25, 2003 10:23 AM
Hey, i'm from Denmark, and my local Card store just got thier stock of Ex Ruby And Sapphire cards today, Boosters, Booster Boxes, and Precon. Theme Decks, so i guess they must be out some places in Europe, or I might just be lucky
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posted June 25, 2003 11:35 AM
ah that must be the grey importer that has nintendo so upset!
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'Good News' or 'Bad News' but NOT NO NEWS
some people brag about their tournament results, me I'm gonna brag??? about what players have managed to get past me LOL
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'legal stalling' : game loss at least
'only joking' on misreported match results: DQ Yep its that serious!
The prize swap penalty as it applies to shuffling.
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posted June 25, 2003 12:22 PM
Yeah maybe, or where just faster in Denmark...
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