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DOMCGI
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posted September 30, 2002 12:58 PM
First of all, I have to say any TCG a game of luck.
How could you pull the right card on time from your 60 cards deck? The card you draw is already a form of luck.
A good player know how to build a deck and how to play the game by maximize the luck.
We can't completely take out the luck factor of the game. There is many filpping now, but I believe it is more balance than before that who go first who win the game.
Second, number of people play the Pokemon TCG are much much less than before. It is because Pokemon is not a HOT topic any more. You almost can't find any Pokemon related product in any major superstore. Most the kids are only following the HOT topic. Currently, the hottest topic is Yu-Gi-Oh. Without the Hot-Topic-Follower, a lot of Pokemon TGC player gone.
The people still playing Pokemon are really love the game, like me.
The problem is: those Pokemon lover also leaving the game. There are several reason:
1. After playing the same deck a long time (just modify their winning deck after every new set release), they are boring. They don't like their card in their winning deck not legal in tournment any more. They just do not want to change!!!! But only changing can refresh yourselve. Keep trying to build different deck is the major fun of the game!!!! Even you lose, you still could have fun. Winning is not the only purpose of the game. Until people learn to have fun on building deck, they do not really enjoy the game.
2. The ruling trouble. The ruling system of the Pokemon TCG is a mess. It never have an organized struture of the rule. It is very difficult to completely handle the game now. This make many people very sad, including me. WOTC do try (their best?), but since the control is on TPC, WOTC sometime can't do anything. The ruling need to be simplify and structurize. Recent ruling are in the right direction (e.g. Continuous power overcede Activated power, than Local power overcede Global power. Even it is still not complete, but a little easier (or more confuse?) now.)
3. The positioning of the Pokemon TCG: The Pokemon card game is positioned as Kids game. But most the kids are hot-follower and change to play the hot Yu-Gi-Oh. The experienced player are older now. If they still playing Pokemon, their friend will call them "Kid" and "out-of-date". IF change to play Yu-Gi-Oh, they will be regonized by thier friends. The image of the Pokemon TCG chould change. But how? I have no idea. The picture on the cards are so cute!!!!!!!
4. No where and no one to play.
Personal, I believe that there will be less and less people playing Pokemon card. It is just how long could this game stay alive.
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posted September 30, 2002 01:05 PM
Well for League Rules, ask [email protected] and i'm sure you'll get some. Or post down in Tournament and League Play. But i will give you a hint, non-DCI sanctioned tourneys can be run however the GL feels (long as it's fair). I know of a tourney that was no Pokémon above 40 HP and only 10 Trainers. I know some GLs have a tourney based upon the color of the current season.
Now for DCI Sanctioned League tourneys, these follow the same rules as any DCI Sanctioned tourney. These rules are located http://www.wizards.com/DCI/main.asp?x=UTR_Intro
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posted September 30, 2002 01:23 PM
Of course it's my personal opinion. Your view point is yours. So is anybodies.
But mine is based on the facts. How well the game is progressing. The number of Professors. The number of people at tournaments. The number of new players. The fact that LC and Expedition are doing well. Just because you personally don't see these things does not mean that they do not exist.
These facts don't support your conclusion that Pokémon is not doing well.
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posted September 30, 2002 01:30 PM
Youre looking at the numbers...not activity...
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posted September 30, 2002 01:48 PM
How much activity you may see isn't necessarily representative of activity on whole.
Ask 10 people what they think about some subject, and then ask 1000. With only 10, there is greater chance for a bias, as you are asking a smaller group of people.
Now (I assume) the reason you think it is dying is that you look around you, and wow, you don't see much having to do with Pokemon. Logically, it must be the same everywhere. But it's not. Just because you don't see it around you doesn't mean it'll be the same everywhere else.
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posted September 30, 2002 02:10 PM
At my league, FujiMon may be right on number of Pokemon players who also played YuGi. It was about half Pokemon players in our league bought and play YuGi during Pokemon league time. The Pokemon league was poorly run and it used "unlimited" format. It was simply boring and Pokemon players looked else where.
BUT the situation has drastically improved. The league is now run with DCI sanctioned tournaments everyweek and everyone is playing "Mofified Format." (Yeah! no more Sneasel they said!.) The atmosphere is exciting now. Yesterday, there was one player came around asking everyone in the Pokemon league to play YuGi. He finally left the league with his YuGi deck without anyone wanted to play with him.
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posted September 30, 2002 02:19 PM
See, that's just not the case anymore, people at our league (75%) play yu-gi-oh the whiole time, and sold ALL of their pokemon cards. Our league is EXTREMELY poorly run, this I think it'd be wize to start our own, people league our league because there are many unfair things that go on (Stacking decks etc..) Maybe it'd be wize to make our own, i mean, I know 3 professors, and 1 is a TO currently... And I will be a professor in november (So I can hope)
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posted September 30, 2002 02:31 PM
I know at my league it is always crowded and there is a lot of activity going on. There is a big amount of people who want the cards that sometimes there isn't many cards left. Even though yugioh is pretty popular, it is not as fun or as organized as pokemon is. Every one is there a lot and we all have lots of fun! I do not think that pokemon will die in the future {or for a REALLY long time}. But I will stand by my favorite game if anything does happen to it. ![[Smile]](../tcg/smile.gif)
And besides, I like flipping coins and getting a reverse foil Venasaur! ![[Evil Smirk]](../tcg/graemlins/Up_to.gif)
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posted September 30, 2002 03:01 PM
God I wish the board had faster loading time... ive never seen such a thing... 5 minutes to refresh with a cable modem... lol.
As for the leagues, The league I was going to has a slight disadvantage, The GL keeps over half the promo energies for tournaments for himself and trades em for deck cards. Thats why we want to start our own league. A league where you get what you're soppost to get...
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posted September 30, 2002 03:39 PM
At the risk of flaming...
It sounds to me like you're a disgruntled pre-professor with a skewed vision of your league that is brought on by frustration as what you see as a great injustice in both the activities of your GL and probably WotC's non-addition of a 15+ division.
Considering what is at stake, millions of dollars in business, I sincerely doubt the choices WotC is making are bad ones. They are educated people (every employee of influence must have a degree) with educated logic and business skills.
For you, someone not even old enough to safely operate a motor vehicle, to tell them that they've done a bad job is an insult and I'm suprised DMTM has been tolerant and calm while you try to cut and slash down everything he and MTM and everyone else at WotC has done over the past three years.
You can call this a 'heads-up', 'heads-down' or 'heads or tails'....it doesn't matter how you package it "a rose by any other name still smells as sweetly ", and quite frankly this smells of criticism, insult, and contempt aimed at WotC, DMTM, MTM, Me, every Master Professor, every Professor and everyone else who loves, collects and plays this game...we like the game, it's not dying and for all we care, you can go join the other 75% of your league and play Yu-Gi-Oh.
And finally, the Tournament board is a good place to direct questions, if it's not answered correctly or promptly, usually someone from compendium or a Master trainer will give you the answer (Team Compendium is the offical source for WotC rulings.)
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posted September 30, 2002 05:25 PM
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Can it truely be? A game that was once one of the most popular games in the U.S. be dieing?
Every card game dies alittle every year. Do you think the same amount of people play magic as last year?
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I Hope not, but i've read in quite a few articles that even DragonBall Z's TCG has become more popular than Pokemon, not to mention Yu-Gi-Oh's raid threwout the United States.
You read that? You read that. That is your answer, people have their opinions. I cannot see any in viable way that DBZ would be more popular then Pokemon. Yu-Gi-Oh is getting good but it doesnt have the Pokemon Charm, and it just came out at a bad time, I mean what do pokemon haters hate more the pokemon? A rip-off of Pokemon[their opinion].
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I knew that Pokemon was taking a wrong turn the minute I heard about Base Set Two, and then LC came after... Re-Printing cards only reduces the value of the origionals, something that really shouldn't be done.
Base Set 2 was a piece of crap, but don't diss LC. I dissed it, and I bought a pack, and I was VERY amazed. Alot of people joining into the game would really get use of the packs and how most packs come with a evolvolution of a card in the pack and it is the ideal pack drawing tournament[forgot name].
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Another downfall on pokemon, Format cutting. Getting rid of Base set-Gym Challenge is just wrong, Talk about de-faceing value of the cards, now there's no reason to buy cards from these sets.
This is only in Modified. I go to a leaque, well many leaques and NONE of them play in Modified. Unless you go to alot of Wizard Hosted tournaments, this doesn't really affect a basic player.
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And only 9 card packs, running out of cardboard?
Haha, no. They said it cost more to print the scan lines on the cards and they had two choices. Increase the price of a pack or take out 2 commons. Which one do you want?
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Something must be done about this, and It needs to happen soon, before all Pokemon players are gone...
We have a good 2-4 years left, in major playing light IMO. The game is still played alot more than DBZ, YGO, and it will still be played until one of those sets get better or Pokemon gets worse. Both of those could happen, but it isnt going to happen anytime soon.
My comments? Live life to the fullest. Don't care if Pokemon is dieing, even if it is. Just don't pay attention to it and play to your hearts desire. Worrying about it only makes the game less fun.
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posted September 30, 2002 05:38 PM
I understand how it can be when no one in your area runs a decent league. All the leagues in my area were closed, save for one that is 10 miles from me.
So, what did I do? Like you are planning to do, Fujimon, I passed the Professor test and worked hard to build the game.
I started up a new league, after 6 months of trying. We began in June with just 12 players. Last week we had our psychic season tourney, and there were 32 players entered. We get new players every week.
Among the new players coming to my league, there are 2 types: veterans of closed leagues in the area who are getting back into the game, and brand new players making their first decks ever. ALL of us are having a BLAST! 
Word of our league is spreading: we have a good thing going. We are tapping into a hunger out there for a quality Pokémon environment. You can do the same thing in your area!
When anyone asks about a Yu-Gi-Oh league, I direct them to a store that runs it. They go and play there, but they come back to our Pokémon league too. The two games can coexist, and I'm betting strongly that Pokémon has far more long-term staying power!
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posted September 30, 2002 07:41 PM
Well, reading what everyone has said inspired me to work harder at bulding up the Pokemon scene in Hawaii, it is my opinion that it has died almost completely here, thought it may not be as bad as other areas (I sympathize for the European players and others who have no league around).
People at the league are leaving for games like Dragonball and Magi Nation, surprizingly, Yu-Gi-Oh hasn't struck any of the players at the league, but from what I hear, the young kids are into it. Anyway, though I can't do much (dang high school taking lots of time), I am going to see if I, along with a few other people can revive the game here.
In the past 4 years, through all 3 years of League, and going through late and not delivered supplies and lack of official tourneys, I never gave up hope, I've seen a group of about 50 players divided into two leagues whittle down to about 9 at a single league, and yet, I still play.
If I had the time, money, and help, I'd try to run some thing to recruit new members, but that'd have to wait, so, for now, I am stuck with what I have, that being Badges from Year 1 and 2, and some old promos and stickers, and from that, I hope to build up the Pokemon scene in Hawaii back to what it was, and anyone in a similar situation should at least try to do so to. Convince store owners to support a league, try to make them see that it'll bring them customers, and such. Teach young kids fair play, and the tricks of the trade. Have fun. In the word of Ms. Frizzle, "Take chanses, make mistakes, get messy".
Complaining about Pokemon dying won't do anything. I should know, I've tried. You have to take it upon yourself to bring it back. Anyway, enough blabing about my problems, its time to get back to work, restoring the Pokemon scene in Hawaii!... after homework ;x
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posted September 30, 2002 08:17 PM
How many people still play Digimon? Do you remember when people were posting topics "Digimon is killing Pokémon"? Well, I do. Then DragonBallZ and now Yugioh have taken over the "fad" scene among children. Can only one TCG remain dominant? I don't think so. Just cause one game does better in sales (temporarily), doesn't mean another TCG with fewer sales, but with more dedicated players cannot thrive. I believe Pokémon will always be one of the best supported TCGs do to the parents, the people at Wizards of the Coast, and the kids who don't move on to the next "popular, fad" trend.
Collectors I know LIKE the "re-print" sets. In my experience, collecting another set gives them multiples of good cards, that could be used for decks. Plus, the reverse-holos are really for the collectors out there.
IMHO, flipping provides for MORE skill in the TCG. The reason being, becuase you HAVE to account for what might happen if you DO happen to flip all tails. You must be prepared for every scenario and tweak your deck around that.
My 2 cents.
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posted October 01, 2002 04:10 AM
I just started a league (now about 3 saturdays) and I noticed a lot of new players. The first week there were about 10 people, and now there are 25 signed in (after 3 weeks!!!!).
About half of them never played in any tournaments or leagues. They were just happy that a league was started around them and that they could use their cards they've been collecting.
Basically most of the time I had to teach the game, but now those kids bring friends and even try to teach their parents. I know it's only 3 weeks, but this shows me that the problem is NOT to find players, but to find people who want to organize a league or a tournament.
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posted October 01, 2002 04:33 AM
Crystal trainer's post proves that the game is NOT dead !
The conclusion is very clear :
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this shows me that the problem is NOT to find players, but to find people who want to organize a league or a tournament.
Belgium is doing very well for some months now ... I'm sure it's not a question of luck, but of initiatives, involvment, hard work.
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DOMCGI
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posted October 01, 2002 07:49 AM
I completely agree that if people have fun, they will continue to play the game.
To have fun, the major requirement seem to be having a well managed league.
The second seem to be Modified format because it has more fun.
In the league I join, most the member (<12 year old) are playing unlimited format. We cannot ask them to use Modified format because they don't have so many card!!! We can't ask them to ask their parent to buy another box of card in order to construct a Modified deck.
An older group of people have enough money to buy new card. They like to play modified deck. But not many of them.
The trouble is the majority of the member are playing unlimited. Most the tournment can only be unlimited format. Those older people get boring.
The last is, the league is organized by a store in a Shopping Mall. The store itselve don't has space. It has to temporary rent another un-rented store in the Mall to run the league. It is lucky that the league is already runing for a year, but once the un-rented space is gone, we will have no space to run the league any more. To find a store wiling to run a league and have space is not easy.
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posted October 01, 2002 09:55 AM
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"The report of my death was an exaggeration." - Mark Twain (The REAL quote. www.twainquotes.com )
It seems the only thing dying here is common sense.
Digimon, DBZ, Card Captors, MagiNation, Harry Potter, Yu-Gi-Oh... I probably missed a few, were all supposed to kill Pokemon.
Let's see.
1. Digimon is dead.
2. DBZ is going okay. It's had several expansions and is still played widely, but it's definitely no Pokemon.
3. Card Captors is dead.
4. MagiNation might as well be dead. Sam Goody is discounting it 75%.
5. Ditto for Harry Potter (except it is only 50%).
6. Yu-Gi-Oh. The flavor of the month for people who love to jump in on "what's hot." People are already complaining about the price of packs in our area. When the chain stores get them in, the packs are gone within hours (if they even hit the shelves). Why? Because dealers are buying them up and selling them for $5-6 a pack.
I don't THINK so! (Homey don't play dat!)
That game is going to price and release itself into oblivion. Upper Deck should have stuck to what it knows, sports cards, and stayed out of CCGs. Three releases in a five-month span (Sept., Nov., Jan.) is ridiculous.
Sure, our league is down. After a month of letting a Yu-Gi-Oh fanatic run it, everyone jumped aboard the "next big thing." But unlike Brock Lesnar (WWE reference), Yu-Gi-Oh will NEVER be the CCG champion. If fact, it will never be number two. Magic and Pokemon are firmly entrenched in those spots. (BTW, doesn't Yu-Gi-Oh look VERY similar to a certain WotC game, without lands). Not only will people come back to league, but NEW players are begining to come, something that hasn't happened here in quite a while.
Everything "dies" eventually, but you are looking in the wrong direction if you are looking for a CCG to kick the bucket. Watch what happens to Yu-Gi-OH. If it hits 13 releases and several years and is still going strong with major events (Gym Challenge, Stadium Challenge, Professor events, team tournaments, etc.) like Pokemon, then you can argue it has staying power. Until that point (which I don't expect it to reach), to quote a famous wrestler "Know your role and..." well, you know the rest.
In fact, let's just wait until this time next year, when the Yu-Gi-Oh fad has worn off and people have jumped to the next big game, saying it is killing Pokemon.
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posted October 01, 2002 01:30 PM
Back on Crystal Trainer post :
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but now those kids bring friends and even try to teach their parents.
... even try to teach their parents
That seems to be very important to me ... parents.
We see in our leagues and tournaments that parents are very important. If they're interested in the game, they will support their kids, participate in the activities, play tournaments, ... (and buy more cards too)
A long time ago someone had the idea of Pokeparents : we play Pokemon with our kids ! ![[Wink]](../tcg/wink.gif)
We had the opportunity to play in family when 15+ were allowed in big events. Now we may still do it in leagues and local events.
Pokemon is maybe a kid's game, but like in every kid's activity, the support of the parents is very important for the success of the activity.
Pokemon a family game thanks to Team play ? Ok, only if one of the parents is interested in the game, no ?
3 European kids went to Hawaii, ... their parents are players too. Same for the Brooks family. I don't know if the other US parents who were in Hawaii are players, but it is very clear they're involved in the game.
That's true for OP, but also for league play. Parents may help in different ways, organize things, ...
Finding new players is certainly important, but interesting parents to the game, the community, ... involve them in the activities is maybe more important.
If a parent says to another one 'my kid plays Pokemon', or if a parent says 'my kid plays Pokemon and I have fun with him because it's great for me too', who will draw the new parent's attention to the game or league activities ?
And I'm ready to bet on a figure. I'm quite sure that most of the Professors and Master Professors who are really involved in the game as TO, Gym leader, ... are parents of Pokemon playing kids. Am I wrong ? ![[Angel]](../tcg/graemlins/angel.gif)
I see every week at tournaments the social role of the game. I see every week that the best leagues, with the most players, the most activities, the most growing leagues do involve parents.
I said 'social role of the game' ! You may laugh at me, but I'm sure that role does well exist !
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posted October 01, 2002 01:39 PM
I moved onto Magic The Gathering. Everyone plays it and its so much more balanced than the "heads or tails" concept. I love it! ![[Big Grin]](../tcg/biggrin.gif) I'm not trying to drag you away from pokemon... But I find Magic must more convincing than pokemon. Although Magic isn't a HUGE fad, its still a semi small fad which out does pokemon... I miss playing pokemon, but it was so expensive and depended on too much luck. Their was an increase when Neo: Genesis came out. Maybe wizards could do another thing like that. Well for now, don't quit! Who cares if its no fad? Stick with it and you never know something good might happen.
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posted October 01, 2002 02:05 PM
Thanks to all the replies, I origionally made this topic to see what's left in the game for me.. in a more discrete mannor. Obviousely there is.
I also have a few comments...
1. Digimonand card captors never lived...
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For you, someone not even old enough to safely operate a motor vehicle, to tell them that they've done a bad job is an insult and I'm suprised DMTM has been tolerant and calm while you try to cut and slash down everything he and MTM and everyone else at WotC has done over the past three years.
Never would I slash down the past! had it not been for the previous decicions pokemon would no longer be arround! I simply pointed out a few I felt were a bit off. and as for insulting, I never meant to insult. DMTM is a good guy in my opinion, and i'd never intentionally insult a person I respect as much as I do to him. As for the "Not even old enough to operate a motot veichael" part... wasn't this game made directed to the under driver age division? And even at that, all opinions **Should** be taken into account, nomatter the age group.
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and quite frankly this smells of criticism, insult, and contempt aimed at WotC, DMTM, MTM, Me, every Master Professor, every Professor and everyone else who loves, collects and plays this game...we like the game, it's not dying and for all we care, you can go join the other 75% of your league and play Yu-Gi-Oh.
That wasn't the point of the post, I collect pokemon, My father and I have every set from base-Neo destiny complete. I love the game just as much as any professor does, that is why I intend on becomming one. Also, another point to it was that I Don't like yu-gi-oh and that I was pointing out that the players were playing it.
People useing the LC packs was the point of making it, but all it is to the older players is another re-released set to collect.
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This is only in Modified. I go to a leaque, well many leaques and NONE of them play in Modified. Unless you go to alot of Wizard Hosted tournaments, this doesn't really affect a basic player
The same is here, but the only fair tournaments with the slate flat even, not tilted in any player's direction are the wizards hosted ones... which, if ytou recall, are all Modified.
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We have a good 2-4 years left
Hopefully more!
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I understand how it can be when no one in your area runs a decent league. All the leagues in my area were closed, save for one that is 10 miles from me.
So, what did I do? Like you are planning to do, Fujimon, I passed the Professor test and worked hard to build the game.
Good! Now I have some encouragement!
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I just started a league (now about 3 saturdays) and I noticed a lot of new players. The first week there were about 10 people, and now there are 25 signed in (after 3 weeks!!!!).
And some more...
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Crystal trainer's post proves that the game is NOT dead !
I said the game is dead because of muy area, and the wayz it is played. Obviousely that starting my own, fair, league will improove the gameplay of our area!
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I moved onto Magic The Gathering. Everyone plays it and its so much more balanced than the "heads or tails" concept. I love it! I'm not trying to drag you away from pokemon... But I find Magic must more convincing than pokemon. Although Magic isn't a HUGE fad, its still a semi small fad which out does pokemon... I miss playing pokemon, but it was so expensive and depended on too much luck. Their was an increase when Neo: Genesis came out. Maybe wizards could do another thing like that. Well for now, don't quit! Who cares if its no fad? Stick with it and you never know something good might happen.
Expencive? How so? Ive seen packs as low as 50 cents each....
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posted October 01, 2002 03:51 PM
Pokemon is still very alive.
I started a gym 4 weeks ago, with only my own kids and 2 friends of them who were already playing every week at our home.
After 4 weeks i have 15 kids playing and some more on a waitinglist.
I first want to have the 15 players more involved in the game so they can help me to instruct new players.
It takes a lot of time (and money) to do this but it's worth it because of the fun we are having playing with each other.
Only one thing: I WISH TO HAVE THE BADGES BACK
I'm playing with kids 11 years and under and specially kids of those age adore the badges.
It's a good promotion for the game. Kids wearing them to school, tell about the game they play and yes 2 new kids will appear on the leguae.
That's a part of keeping the game alive.
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posted October 01, 2002 09:30 PM
Pokemon in my area is nearly dead. It was primarily brought about by the withdrawl of sponsorship of the Toys weRe Us stores. My son and I attended TWO TrU store Leagues regularly. (Hmmm.... I haven't been to either store since the Leagues) There is only one League in our area, but it is run so poorly, that even the GL plays U-G-O during Pokemon League time, and their "sanctioned" tournaments are a farce. I am friends with three other local Professors who have pretty much given up the game due to nowhere to play. We sometimes get together at a local Wendy's and play, but there is no new blood, no league materials. Our only recourse is Apprentice, but it's just not the same. We have all tried to get sponsorship from stores without success. I REEEELY wish WotC would drop that dad blamed requirement. If they would, I think you would see a great Pokemon comeback.
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posted October 01, 2002 10:06 PM
i am a great example as to why i feel the tcg is 'dying' i have been playing for some time now and was (i feel) one of the best at my pl. but i also started when i was 14 now i am 18 and going of to college it just that the first set of players are growing out of it and moving on with life
i will still play some but not nearly as mutch i used to
i have been trying to get my nephue to start playing pokemon(he is 7) so that i can help in starting the new batch of fans.
also i think it is that most of the people playing nowadays have gotten to good and intimidate the 'new batch' just starting up so i think some of you hardcore players need to hang up your hats and let it go so the new players can ha ve a chance
thats just my thoughts
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when all else fells use raichu.
Death to GaToR 09-01-02
Pikachu may be CUTER(hahaha)
but Raichu will always be STRONGER
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posted October 02, 2002 11:22 AM
Intresting thought you braught up there raichu, I've played the same 'Unorigional' deck, as some call it, since pre-fossil dayz, now It has evolved to quite the wholopper. Whever I see a newcommer, I use a less likely deck (B. Golbat/Scyther) Just for fun. As for the leagues, Had the league requirements been dropped and/or lowered...well.. who knows?
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