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Topic: Replacing WizPog.
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LugiasForce
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posted June 10, 2003 05:39 PM
Well, it must come. WizPog will be no longer. When this happens I would like there to be an official replacement board. Shall we vote now? Does anyone know if Nintendo will have a NinPog ![[Big Grin]](../tcg/biggrin.gif) ?
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mysterioustrainer
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posted June 10, 2003 08:45 PM
It would be nice to have the Pokegym own its own again (it seems like things were more fun back in the old days (before Feb of 2001)). Ninpog? That's funny. Actually there has been no new news on anything for Orginized Play for Nintendo. This includes any consumer feedback communications (such as message boards), and if Pokemon-tcg.com is anything like all of the other subsites from Nintendo (pokemon.com, e-reader.com, etc). There will be no boards.
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Golduck
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posted June 11, 2003 02:20 AM
Before February 2001? In my opinion, this board was great until last winter. It's back then that things started to somehow get wrong. It's at that point that I stopped visiting 10 times every day, and reduced to 10 times a week.
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Originally posted by mysterioustrainer:
(it seems like things were more fun back in the old days (before Feb of 2001)).
[ June 11, 2003, 02:21 AM: Message edited by: Golduck ]
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Brokenlizard
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posted June 11, 2003 03:15 AM
This reminds me of a discussion over how to replace a dead pet. 
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Golduck
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posted June 11, 2003 04:09 AM
You mean that no matter how hard you try, it will never be the same again or able to replace it?
Hmm.. in that case you are right.
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Originally posted by Brokenlizard:
This reminds me of a discussion over how to replace a dead pet.
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IndigoMaster
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posted June 11, 2003 06:14 AM
Its not replacing, its moving.
My question is...can we actully survive a move? I have been involved in alot of subwizpog sites...none of them have succeeded, the pokeruins(origional pre 9/11)was the only one that had a decent amount of members. And that was only 400, not 25000.
But hey...we have to go somewhere right? Maybe this time will work out differently.
Golduck, your a webmaster, why don't you start something simple, an ikonboard or something, not part of your TE boards, but something off of it. I dunno if you have server space, but its an idea.
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PhoenixSong
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posted June 11, 2003 06:55 AM
I have the ability to create a fully functioning PHP web enviornement with a number of features that this site NEVER had.
I would be willing if I have the support.
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IndigoMaster
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posted June 11, 2003 07:23 AM
A site doesn't need features. In fact, we don't need a site, we need a board, and someone who can host the board. If the board got even an eigth of the members from here to move over it would mean some serious bandwidth needed.
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The Anaconda
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posted June 11, 2003 07:34 AM
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Originally posted by IndigoMaster:
Its not replacing, its moving.
My question is...can we actully survive a move? I have been involved in alot of subwizpog sites...none of them have succeeded, the pokeruins(origional pre 9/11)was the only one that had a decent amount of members. And that was only 400, not 25000.
Well, whatever happens, there is NO WAY we'd be able to survive unless something formal was put together. I remember back in 2001 a webmaster of a fairly popular Pokemon website decided to just throw away his board. The board had over 2000 members, and they all splintered off everywhere. I can think of maybe 20 splinter boards off hand. Mine ended up with at it's peak 23 members from that board - and is now down to six that still visit, another with 60 - which is now completely gone due to the webmaster losing interest in Pokemon, another with 45 - which died with f2s, and so on.
Bottom line is this. Unless we come up with something NOW and give people a fair amount of warning, WizPog is going to die.
As for hosting, I don't have any money with which to host a board (or rather to pay for the bandwidth), but I would do it if I did.
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lvirden
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posted June 11, 2003 09:41 AM
In the opinion of this forum member, there are plenty of forums around the net - creating yet another one is just a 'ho hum' event.
What has made this site worthwhile to me to visit is the presence of the WotC staff, answering questions and letting us know what was going on with rulings, upcoming events, releases, etc.
Now granted, recently I've spent most of my time over in the electronic game forum - that's due to my long time complaint about the loss of easily available league play locations.
However, I still have been visiting the TCG forums (at least to see what was going on).
For general discussion of forums, there are other existing sites where in my opinion, people could move and find satisfactory support for general discussion, trading, etc.
However, somehow we need to get email or other access to someone responsible for EX Ruby & Sapphire , etc. production so that interaction can begin and a community can be formed.
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PhoenixSong
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posted June 11, 2003 09:47 AM
IndigoMaster;
No need to be rude about it.
I am offering a service to my fellow pokemon fans. Rest assured I have the technical ability to make it work.
the "Features" that you say you dont need will enhance members over expierience, and in turn, increase the stickiness of the "site".
Imagine a community which is not only technicaly proficient and fast, but which encourages users to activley participate by giving them a full range of virtual and concrete insentives. A community where users are rewarded for posting, and can then use their "points" to purchase real-world, physical items, as well as enhancments and modifications to their expierience.
And all of this is designed, again, to encourage active participation.
I am not upset if you all feel like it's more than you want to take on, but it IS possible, and there is absolutley no need to snap at me for offering it.
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Wizpog_Sensei
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posted June 11, 2003 02:30 PM
Uh,guys....don`t get to far ahead of yourselves.The `Gym will go on...there are plans in the process as we speak.
To reply about making "another ho hum" site,that is true that another variation of a site just won`t cut it where as "The Pokegym",one of the most popular Pokemon sites,moved to another site and kept pretty much status quo would be a whole different boat.The `Gym was one of the original Pokemon sites and will continue on A.W.
We had the `gym on boards owned by(as it turned out) USA network.When they shut their site down and we were looking for a new place to home the `Gym,DMTM took it upon himself to see if WotC would host it.They did.Well,now that era is coming to an end,we are once again going to be moving.When everything is finalized and ready to roll,we`ll let you guys know.
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BJJ763
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posted June 11, 2003 06:55 PM
quote:
Originally posted by lvirden:
What has made this site worthwhile to me to visit is the presence of the WotC staff, answering questions and letting us know what was going on with rulings, upcoming events, releases, etc.
WotC staff visited Da original Gym before it got canned. Probably because of the community on Da Gym. So if we go somewhere else, maybe Nintendo will come and visit us. Hopefully the MTs will. Maybe Nintendo will get a board up (one that does not include having to subscribe to Nintendo Power....)
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red5bv06
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posted June 11, 2003 08:52 PM
Good to hear some of the higher ups are making plans for the 'Gym. We're in good hands.
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jdb728
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posted June 13, 2003 08:47 AM
"A community where users are rewarded for posting, and can then use their "points" to purchase real-world, physical items, as well as enhancments and modifications to their expierience.", I'm sorry, but I don't see how this idea would do much more than encourage people to SPAM.
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posted June 13, 2003 09:52 PM
We can always regroup where it all began:
http://pub48.ezboard.com/bpokegymboards
Its where we all went when the original gym went down. Its a place we can all go to again until we find a new home.
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onederlnd
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posted June 14, 2003 09:29 AM
sensei: Right on brotha ![[ROFL]](../tcg/graemlins/roflmao.gif)
PhoenixSong: Indigo wasnt being overly rude about it. But he is right, there is no need for "features" on a site. PokeGym wasnt created on a site, it was created on the idea of a message board. I also have the technical skills to code and run an entire message board, but that wouldnt make things faster or better.
I know how it is to run a large message board for Pokemon, I used to run PokeIsle. But some of you need to understand that if (which it wont) the PokeGym dies, that might as well be the end of the Pokemon online community. The community will honestly never be the same without a large site such as this, I havent found any other sites that can match.
But, if something is in the works for helping the `Gym live on, lets just let the mods handle it and wait for their response ![[Smile]](../tcg/smile.gif)
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onederlnd
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posted June 14, 2003 09:38 AM
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Originally posted by PhoenixSong:
Imagine a community which is not only technicaly proficient and fast, but which encourages users to activley participate by giving them a full range of virtual and concrete insentives. A community where users are rewarded for posting, and can then use their "points" to purchase real-world, physical items, as well as enhancments and modifications to their expierience.
That's all fine and dandy if you wish to run your own site, but I dont think you understand what the PokeGym was/is all about, sorry. The moderators/admins removed the visible post count on Wizpog because some of the "bad seeds" of the community took advantage of that. Spamming the boards just to get a higher post count. The last thing we need is another excuse to spam the boards.
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ShadowCard
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posted June 14, 2003 11:06 AM
Just as long as it has the power to clarify/reforce rulings for leagues and other events in need of assistence, practically anywhere reasonable is fine with me. It cannot be something where Nintendo saying players shouldn't listen to the assistence of the boards (like upperdeck and Konami say against Edu's site for yugioh). That would be horrible.
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