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MasterMazakala

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posted October 24, 2002 11:04 AM      Profile for MasterMazakala   Email MasterMazakala    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
there is one every 1st saturday of the month here in wales [Frown]
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Golduck

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posted October 25, 2002 03:27 AM      Profile for Golduck   Email Golduck    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Update again:
14 active Leagues in Norway and 2 active TOs with DCI tournies.

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posted October 25, 2002 05:32 AM      Profile for TwutT   Email TwutT    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
quote:
Originally posted by Golduck:
Update again:
14 active Leagues in Norway and 2 active TOs with DCI tournies.

14? [Eek!] Where?

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posted October 25, 2002 08:15 AM      Profile for SauroN   Email SauroN    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
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your moving past us soon...

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Golduck

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posted October 26, 2002 01:41 AM      Profile for Golduck   Email Golduck    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Twutt, here's my little list. I've made it based on various info:

Dreamlands
Kongens gate 23
7012 Trondheim

Notabene Lambertseter
Langbølgen
1151 Oslo

Outland
Jernbanetorget 1
0154 Oslo

Fjellstrand Skole (Eskil Vestre/Steven Widlic)
1458 Fjellstrand

Clas Fr. Dahle
Sørgårdslia 2
1900 Fetsund

Markus Holmset
Olavesåsen 3
1675 Kråkerøy

Gledeshuset
Øvre Langgata 47
3110 Tønsberg

Tromsø Bruktbokhandel
Kirkegata 6
9008 Tromsø

Kristian Stangvik
c/o Ove Sethre Nilsen
Tiriltunet 5
3268 Larvik

"Invisible Clown"
Location unknown
City Unknown

Tore Tangen
Location unknown
City Unknown

Petter Ellingsen
Location unknown
City Unknown

Avalon Bergen
Bergen

ANDRÉ NEERGAARD
Location unknown
City Unknown

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posted October 26, 2002 07:15 AM      Profile for ShadowCard      Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
0 is france! that cannot be right, france is a big country in europe, surely there's one

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posted October 26, 2002 08:33 AM      Profile for Hairy Clefairy   Email Hairy Clefairy    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
quote:
Originally posted by ShadowCard:
0 is france! that cannot be right, france is a big country in europe, surely there's one

To think that in 2001 you had your own STS in Paris, one of the best I can remember going to, and to see OP in France reduced now to zero is astonishing and beyond me to say the least.

Those who have known me on the boards know what I feel about this particular 'issue' yet/never to be resolved by WotC, so I shall not say much more.

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posted October 26, 2002 11:56 AM      Profile for Golduck   Email Golduck    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
If you go to wizards.com/dci and then click Tournament Locator, you can find a good overview of the OP in European countries. France actually has quite many DCI sanctioned tournaments.

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posted October 26, 2002 01:05 PM      Profile for SauroN   Email SauroN    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Maybe you havent heard that Pokemon is almost officialy dead in france...

I remember talking to a guy that play LotR and he used to play Pokemon but nothing was left in paris...

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posted October 26, 2002 01:07 PM      Profile for ShadowCard      Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
but those are tourneys. What about a regular weekly league?

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posted November 01, 2002 12:30 PM      Profile for haymaker   Email haymaker    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
I found a list with league's in the netherlands but I don't know if it's updated lately
there are 27 league's on the list hope I can help someone with it:

Almere
Locatie: MTG Legends
Adres: ***
Contact: 036-5464533

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Alphen a/d Rijn
Locatie: De Sage
Adres: Rhenialaan 7a
Contact: 0172-491280

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Amersfoort
Locatie: Spellenwinckel
Adres: Mooierstraat 19
Contact: 033-4700322

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Amsterdam
Locatie: Cebrozia's Gym
Adres: ***
Contact: 06-16138048

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Apeldoorn
Locatie: Collector
Adres: Marktstraat 20
Contact: 055-5214796

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Assen
Locatie: Plok Strips
Adres: Stationsstraat 1
Contact: 0592-313292

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Den Bosch
Locatie: Atomik
Adres: Hinthamerstraat 90
Contact: 073-6145530

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Den Haag
Locatie: Elf Fantasy Shop
Adres: Noordeinde 91
Contact: 070-3561357

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Ede
Locatie: De Tinnen Soldaat
Adres: Soembalaan 12
Contact: 0318-653296

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Eindhoven
Locatie: Atomik
Adres: Nieuwstraat 7c
Contact: 040-2963309

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Eindhoven
Locatie: Eppo
Adres: Kleine Berg 33
Contact: 040-2441882

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Enschede
Locatie: Buurthuis De Laares
Adres: Tulpstraat 65
Contact: 053-4333768

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Gouda
Locatie: Simtasia
Adres: Nieuwehaven 116
Contact: 0182-516865

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Gorinchem
Locatie: Bij B
Adres: Arkelstraat 42
Contact: 0183-666898

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Heerlen
Locatie: Atomik
Adres: Geleenstraat 17
Contact: 045-5740232

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Hoogvliet
Locatie: C's Lair of Legends
Adres: Lengweg 82
Contact: 010-4167108

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Leeuwarden
Locatie: Spellekijn
Adres: Voorsteek 3
Contact: 058-2131112

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Leiden
Locatie: Magic Friends "Chez Pikachu"
Adres: St. Aagtenstraat 26
Contact: 071-5130522

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Maastricht
Locatie: Vlieg er Uit
Adres: Brusselsestraat 70
Contact: 043-3251653

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Made
Locatie: Het Dorp
Adres: Marktstraat 25
Contact: 0162-685858

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Nijmegen
Locatie: Moenen en Mariken
Adres: Van Welderenstraat 70
Contact: 024-3236119

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Oss
Locatie: Video & Games
Adres: Goudmijnstraat 7
Contact: 0412-650699

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Sittard
Locatie: Atomik
Adres: Stationsstraat 21
Contact: 046-4515074

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Tilburg
Locatie: Labyrinth
Adres: Langestraat 176
Contact: 013-5443700

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Utrecht
Locatie: The Joker
Adres: Oude Gracht 230a
Contact: 030-2332158

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Weert
Locatie: Djinn's Pure Magic
Adres: Beekstraat 77b
Contact: 0495-533620

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Zwolle
Locatie: Games N Stuff
Adres: Diezerpoortenplas 38
Contact: 038-4216385

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posted November 02, 2002 12:56 AM      Profile for Golduck   Email Golduck    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Good job, Haymaker! Even without Wizards' support, we make our own list of Leagues for European countries. But some help would be appriciated anyway.

Has any League in Europe received the Fighting Season kit yet? It should have been here now, but I haven't got it yet.

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posted November 02, 2002 06:40 AM      Profile for ukpokemonpro   Email ukpokemonpro    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Golduck,

now stop making us envy you what is year 3 anyway?

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posted November 02, 2002 09:57 AM      Profile for Golduck   Email Golduck    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
The Leagues run by Wizards Europe (Belgium) did receive the Season 1 kits. I know Wizards UK didn't.

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Golduck,

now stop making us envy you what is year 3 anyway?



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posted November 02, 2002 11:11 AM      Profile for TwutT   Email TwutT    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
quote:
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Avalon Bergen
Bergen

What?! They doesn't! Atleast of what I've heard - from them! Or did they start it recently??? Where have you got this info from???

[Dubious] [Dubious] [Dubious]

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[ November 02, 2002, 11:33 AM: Message edited by: SD_PokeMom ]

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posted November 02, 2002 12:58 PM      Profile for SauroN   Email SauroN    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Hmmm...it's prolly old info then Twutt

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posted November 03, 2002 01:43 AM      Profile for TwutT   Email TwutT    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Sorry SD_PokeMom, but he just said that my local cardstore is running pokemon league!!! And until recently they said they didn't because there's only me that buys pokemon there ... [Eek!] [Eek!] [Eek!]

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posted November 10, 2002 03:31 AM      Profile for Golduck   Email Golduck    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
The Pokémon distributor has an e-mail list where all League info goes through. One of the names on this list is Avalon Bergen. It seems like Avalon Bergen has stopped running League, but haven't been deleted from the list of League shops.

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posted November 10, 2002 05:38 AM      Profile for TwutT   Email TwutT    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
eskil ... did you get the email i got from avalon bergen and forwarded to you? they said they had league in the beginning, early 2000, but it was a fiasco ...

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hy there, i´m new in this forum.

the actual league list of germany is here [Wink]

Hobby Boutique Stelzner im CJD Heidenau Siegfried-Rödel-Straße 7 D-01809 Heidenau 03529-512472 Fr 15.00-18.00
Spielhaus Welzow Kochstraße 15 D-03119 Welzow 035751-20341 Mo+Do 16.00-18.00
Spielhaus Spremberg Karl-Marx-Straße 81 D-03130 Spremberg 03563-605037 Do 16.00-18.00
Spielzeugland Werner Delitzscher Straße 72 B D-04129 Leipzig 0341-9117644 Do 15.00-18.00
Mysteria Goldsternstraße 7 D-04329 Leipzig 0341-2532292 Do 16.00-18.00
Spielwaren Seidel Ossielzkystraße 16 D-04347 Leipzig 0341-2330177 Mi 16.00-17.30
Heldenwelt GbR Bismarckstraße 13 D-04509 Delitzsch 034202-57177 Fr 14.00-18.00
Spielzeit Marienstraße 15 D-06618 Naumburg 03445-201921 Do 16.00-18.00
Erika Schneider Fan-Artikel-Shop Burgstraße 55 D-06749 Bitterfeld 03493-21615 Sa 9.10-12.00
ORKZ KORNA Ludwig-Jahn-Straße 12 D-07545 Gera 0365-8302959 Di, Mi, Do 15.00-17.00
Spielkiste Gera-Arcaden Heinrichstraße 30 D-07545 Gera 0365-8002745 Fr 14.30-17.30
Vedes Erich Jahn Sorge 28 D-07545 Gera 0365-8002745 Mo 15.00-18.00
Rabattz (im Burgaupark) Kesslerstraße 12 D-07745 Jena 03641-282225 Mi 16.00-18.00
Rabattz Erlebnisfachmarkt DZB Thomas-Mann-Platz 1 D-09130 Chemnitz 0371-442333 Mo 15.00-17.00, Do
Spielwaren Pinocchio Altmarkt 6 D-09350 Lichtenstein 037204-82185 Sa 9.00-12.00
Spielewerkstatt Kerber Landsberger Allee 68A ggü. SEZ D-10249 Berlin 030-42013568 Di+Fr 14.30-17.00
Der andere Spieleladen Prenzlauer Allee 196 D-10405 Berlin 030-4415151 Mi 15.00-19.00
House of Games Hildegardstraße 24 D-10715 Berlin 030-85071656 Mo,Mi+Fr 15.00-18.00
Dream-Land Spandauer Straße 172 D-14612 Falkensee 03322-233922 Do 16.00-18.00
Wedekind Nicolaiplatz 11 D-14770 Brandenburg 03381-524087 Di+Do 14.00-16.00
Das Atom Wismarsche Straße 111 D-19053 Schwerin 0172-9879036 Di+Do 16.00-19.00
Spieleland Stephansplatz 6 D-20354 Hamburg 040-35713997 Mi 16.30-18.30, Sa 12.00-13.45
Mythos Am Sande 34-35 D-21335 Lüneburg 04131-402565 Mi 14.00-18.00
Hartfelder Spiel + Hobby Haus Bramfelder Chaussee 251 D-22175 Hamburg 040-6412292 Fr 16.00-18.00
Zauberstein Elbgaustraße 77 D-22523 Hamburg 040-5704101 Mo+Di 16.00-19.00
Gandalph Fantasy Spiele Wahmstraße 30 D-23552 Lübeck 0451-76684 Fr+Sa 11.00-14.00
Comic, Buch & Spiel Staustraße 20 D-26122 Oldenburg 0441-16901 2 Tage 14.00-16.00
Eisenbahn & Fantasy Renners Neue Straße 38-39 D-29221 Celle 05141-29005 Mo+Fr 15.00-17.00
Kinderkram Südfeld 9 D-29331 Lachendorf 05145-284141 Mo 16.00-18.00
Spiele ohne Grenzen Mühlentor 12 D-29451 Dannenberg 05861-979370 Di 15.00-19.00
Fantasy-In Hildesheimer Straße 11 D-30169 Hannover 0511-667799 Do 15.00-18.00
Kinderladen Hornschu Bismarckstraße 4 D-32257 Bünde 05223-3906 So 14.30-18.00
Spiel + Freizeit Emil Lorenz GmbH Lange Straße 50-52 D-32312 Lübbecke 05741-310591 Mo 15.00-17.00, Sa 9.30-11.00, So 11.00-12.30
Gateway Königswall 63 D-32423 Minden 0571-840095 Mo+Fr 15.00-18.00
AnSpielBar Siechenmarschstraße 4 D-33615 Bielefeld 0521-5212541 Do 15.00-18.00
Comic Galerie Opernstraße 15 D-34117 Kassel 0561-7391365 Di+Do 14.00-18.00
A.W. Schütte GmbH & Co. Steinweg 29 D-38518 Gifhorn 05371-50044 Fr 15.00-17.00
Games Quest Poststraße 6 D-38723 Seesen 05381-697743 Mi ab 14.00, Sa ab 12.00
Topolino Schulstraße 16 D-40721 Hilden 02103-56266 während Öffnungszeiten
Auenland Gutenbergstraße 38 D-44139 Dortmund 0231-529855 Fr 14.00-16.00
S+F Blomenkemper Münsterstraße 29 D-44534 Lünen 02306-6655 Mi 15.30-17.30
Spielwaren Albrecht "Brummkreisel" Jugendzentrum Büsdorfer Straße D-50129 Bergheim 02401-3674 Mi 16.15-18.15
Spielzeit Am alten Pastorat 42 D-51465 Bergisch Gladbach 02202-940620 Mo+Do
Spielwaren Albrecht "Spielkiste" Kückstraße 7 D-52499 Baesweiler 02401-3674 Di 16.00
Puppenkönig Westenhöfer OHG Gangolfstraße 8-10 D-53111 Bonn 0228-9855532 Do 16.00-18.00
Orcish Outpost Zanggasse 7 D-55116 Mainz 06131-233299 Mo 14.00-18.00
HABAKUK Spielwaren Lindenstraße 70 D-57627 Hachenburg 02662-3219 Sa 14.00-16.00 alle 14 Tage
S+F Kerstin Markt 2 D-59494 Soest 02921-2150 Mi 15.00-17.00
Volker's Trend Shop Frankfurter Straße 70 D-63263 Neu Isenburg 06102-722164 Di 16.00-20.00, Do+Sa 14.00-18.00
Spielwaren Cleemann Hauptstraße 31-33 D-66482 Zweibrücken 06332-16255 Do 15.30-18.00, Sa 12.00-15.00
Excalibur Wredestraße 18 D-67059 Ludwigshafen 0621-526573 Mo+Mi 14.00-18.00
Das Syndikat Seckenheimer Straße 73 D-68165 Mannheim 0621-408384 Di+Do 13.00-17.00
Spielwaren Kurtz Marktplatz 10 D-70173 Stuttgart 0711-23852- 0 /28 Mi 15.00
Funtainment Stuttgart Katharinenstraße 18 D-70182 Stuttgart 089-51505710 Sa 11.00-18.00
Reutter's Sammlertreff Uhlandstraße 4 D-73630 Remshalden 07151-703411 Mo, Di, Do + Fr 15.00-18.00
Hans Jürgen & Peter Dunz OHG Hauptstraße 8-10 D-74532 Ilshofen 07904-206 Sa 10.00-13.00
Christmann GmbH Königstraße 40 D-76829 Landau 06341-87032 Di ab 15.00
Funtainment München Landwehrstraße 12 A D-80336 München 089-51505710 Mo-Fr 15.00-17.00, Sa 11.00-18.00
Mikes Comicland Friedrich-Hebbel-Straße 27 D-81369 München 089-76979869 Mo+Fr 14.00-18.00; Sa 10.00-16.00
Rosenheimer-Tradingcard-Treffen Turmcafé - Rathausstraße 24 D-83022 Rosemheim 089-51505710 Sa 10.00-18.00
Comic Treff Buchhandel GmbH Isargestade 728 D-84028 Landshut 0871-23038 Fr 15.00-18.00
Spielwaren Mayer Bezirksstraße 5a D-85716 Unterschleißheim 089-3103111 Sa 11.00-13.00
Comicladen Persiflage Grüner-Turm-Straße 22 D-88212 Ravensburg 0751-23281 Fr 16.00-18.00
Funtainment Nürnberg Eilgutstraße 10 D-90443 Nürnberg 089-51505710 Sa 11.00-18.00
Toy-Factory Nicolaus-A.-Otto-Straße 15 D-96472 Rödental 09563-74250 Sa 13.00-15.00
Comic Dealer Pergamentergasse 29 D-99084 Erfurt 0361-2115355 Do 16.00-18.00

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posted November 17, 2002 10:24 AM      Profile for Golduck   Email Golduck    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Yes I did read that e-mail. Sure it was a fiasco. Just like my day today... [Frown] Check my signature....

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eskil ... did you get the email i got from avalon bergen and forwarded to you? they said they had league in the beginning, early 2000, but it was a fiasco ...



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posted November 18, 2002 05:53 AM      Profile for ukpokemonpro   Email ukpokemonpro    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Golduck..

You lost all of them [Dropjaw]

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The Pokémon distributor has an e-mail list where all League info goes through. One of the names on this list is Avalon Bergen. It seems like Avalon Bergen has stopped running League, but haven't been deleted from the list of League shops.
Why is this not surprising in the UK there are probably enough kits to go round if they didn't send them to shops and outlets that don't run a league now..

But Golduck I mean ..

YOU LOST ALL YOUR CARDS [Dropjaw]

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posted November 18, 2002 08:06 AM      Profile for Golduck   Email Golduck    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
I have quite a few still at home, but they are Unlimited cards I didn't need for the tourney. All good Modified cards are gone (and of course, the 10 Cleffas, which are good on all formats).

But I still have the most important cards: the cards signed by my friends. They are the true unreplaceable cards. The ones signed by SauroN, Freddy K, Jona Asih, Jean Marc, Michael From, Nick 15, Ness, Chrisbo, MTM, DMTM, other people I met at STS and Worlds... I still have those cards. That's the only positive thing: that I left those at home.

/back top topic. European Leagues.

(we can discuss my lost cards in my topic, check my signature)

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posted November 29, 2002 02:53 AM      Profile for Golduck   Email Golduck    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
I chatted with the norwegian organized play manager yesterday (Rune Horvik, the Wizards.com Magic article writer) and he told me that there are 7 active Leagues in Norway right now.

That's far lower than I thought. [NoNoNo]

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posted November 29, 2002 03:32 AM      Profile for SauroN   Email SauroN    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
I TOLD YOU!

you cant trust those lists. i hate it when im right =/

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