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Oak
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posted May 20, 2002 07:53 AM
DMTM:
As a collector I’ve got the following questions regarding Legendary Collection: 1. How many in total different cards are in the set (holo, reverse holo, non-holo)? 2. How many booster packs in the best case scenario do I have to buy in order to collect all the Legendary cards (holo, reverse-holo, non-holo)? 3. What is the secret card for today (box-topper)?
Thanks.
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PsyGuyGENGAR
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posted May 20, 2002 08:17 AM
Oak...The box toppers will probably be kept under tight restraints and out of the sight of Gengar.
DMTM....I do agree with oak about the %'s of the holo...to....non-holo....to.....reverse holo. Can Gengar slip a few numbers in and let those of us who play and collect see just what we are looking at in the $$$.CC catagory?
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PokePop
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posted May 20, 2002 08:23 AM
There are 110 cards in the set (with reverse foils, that makes 220). If you got a different reverse foil in every pack that you bought, you would have to get 110 packs, or 3 boxes, to get the whole set. Or, if you want all 4 box-toppers, you would have to get 4 boxes.
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UtahPokeDad
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posted May 20, 2002 09:14 AM
What are the odds of getting 4 unique box toppers with only buying 4 boxes? Ain't going to happen, especially when you can't see which one you are getting before opening the box.
I had a question about why Pidgeot and Pidgeotto were both left as rares when Haunter was downgraded to a uncommon for drafting purposes. Was it missed? It makes that evo line very difficult to draft successfully... Did Gengar's influence have anything to do with it?
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PokePop
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posted May 20, 2002 09:23 AM
quote: Originally posted by UtahPokeDad: What are the odds of getting 4 unique box toppers with only buying 4 boxes? Ain't going to happen, especially when you can't see which one you are getting before opening the box.
I had a question about why Pidgeot and Pidgeotto were both left as rares when Haunter was downgraded to a uncommon for drafting purposes. Was it missed? It makes that evo line very difficult to draft successfully... Did Gengar's influence have anything to do with it?
Oak specifically asked for "best case scenario".
I was also a bit off with my 3 boxes for the regular sized cards. You would need 3 boxes and 2 packs.
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TwutT
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posted May 20, 2002 10:06 AM
quote: Originally posted by PokePop:
I was also a bit off with my 3 boxes for the regular sized cards. You would need 3 boxes and 2 packs.
So you own the complete lc?????? Does the cards have new art? The neo-arts look way more professional than the old base, jungle, fossil and teamrocket-art!
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DMTM
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posted May 20, 2002 10:23 AM
Hmm...some questions I can answer some I cannot.
I won't release the "Box Toppers", there has to be some mystery.
Cards are not there for any of three different reasons.
1. We did not want those cards to reappear in this format. Oak, CPU others are broken cards folks in combination they are just ridiculous and have no place in the environment.
2. We could not reprint them. (They were cards that we were not allowed to reprint). This applies to most cards in #1 so they are twice doomed.
3. They were from sets we could not reprint at this time.
4. We looked at them and decided not to reprint them. All sets need cards that are good, fair, and not so good. It is important to balance those things in the game. You may think a card is not going to be good and it ends up being a very important part of a combination for a good deck. The reverse is also true.
As for buying it or not. Well we know it is not for everyone. Some people will some won't. It will have a great life as a sealed product which is very important to this game at it's current progression. It has some appeal to collectors as well. It is a totally new model for us and for Pokémon time will tell how well it does.
The rarity schemes are as listed. They are based on but not limited to...
1. Prior Schemes 2. Sealed deck play for evolutions...draft ect. 3. How I was feeling that day....I was in a good mood so Haunter is Uncommon. Besides! He is Part of the Gengar line! 4. Maple Bar deficiency.
There are probably some things listed that are not correct as far as rarity ect. I will try and look it all over and see what I may have posted incorrectly. Spelling errors are just my own. I was rushed to get it up so you would have it on the site for the weekend. You will have to just deal with those. I do know how to spell...but my fingers were flying faster then my mind.
Can't think of any others I can answer at this time.
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TheBoss
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posted May 20, 2002 10:48 AM
About the Card Numbering
Is this set numbered the way the past sets are...
sorted by Holo and Non-Holo Then Pokemon & Trainers Then Rarity Then Alpha
or is the Card Numbers By The Order You Posted?
just cuious
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PokePop
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posted May 20, 2002 10:53 AM
quote: Originally posted by TwutT: quote: Originally posted by PokePop:
I was also a bit off with my 3 boxes for the regular sized cards. You would need 3 boxes and 2 packs.
So you own the complete lc?????? Does the cards have new art? The neo-arts look way more professional than the old base, jungle, fossil and teamrocket-art!
Where did you get that idea? I just used a little thing called math. 110 cards in the set. 36 packs per box.
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posted May 20, 2002 10:53 AM
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DMTM
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posted May 20, 2002 11:01 AM
As far as odds of getting the whole set. you need at least 110 packs to even have a chance. (Not counting Toppers). That is three boxes plus 2 packs.
But that chance is not really realistic. There is going to be copies of your Reverse holos in those packs for sure.
The Rares are at about 74 with three boxes plus two packs. There are 19 of them so that is times four chance with 110 packs. 4 to 1 chance
The Regular Holos are at about 36 with three boxes There are 19 of them so your chances are times a little under Two with 110 packs. Good but not perfect. 2 to 1 chance.
The reverse holos are one in almost every pack but there are 110 of them so you will need to do some trading to complete your set at these ratios.
This is of course the best of odds. It is pretty clear that to make a set you must trade to get there unless you buy more boxes. Looks to me like three is the best bet for those of you interested in getting the whole set. Trading for the rest of the Reverse Holos and maybe a few Holos.
DMTM [ May 20, 2002, 12:54 PM: Message edited by: DMTM ]
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Lord_Ninetales
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posted May 20, 2002 11:40 AM
quote: Originally posted by DMTM: The Regular Holos are at about 36 with three boxes There are 19 of them so your chances are times a little under Three with 110 packs. Good but not perfect. 3 to 1 chance.
I think you should keep Gengar away from your keyboard - that should be a little under two: 2 * 19 = 38. [ May 20, 2002, 01:47 PM: Message edited by: Lord_Ninetales ]
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nick15
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posted May 20, 2002 11:55 AM
Pkmnrulz241. yadda yadda yadda Well, your mostly correct, but not correct if the viewer of the list changes to the other views of the list. Then it wouldn't be correct.
No.... because it's database based means that the user WILL be able to change the views.
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Oak
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posted May 20, 2002 12:09 PM
Thanks DMTM. The reason I asked the question is that the initial information pointed to 110 cards with every card being holo, non-holo, and reverse-holo (110X3=330 cards). The reality is that every holo has a reverse-holo counterpart and that every non-holo has a reverse-holo counterpart, or even simpler - your list from Friday afternoon (110 cards), plus all 110 in a reveres-holo version.
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Johnny Blaze
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posted May 20, 2002 12:21 PM
quote: The reverse holos are one in almost every pack but there are 110 of them so you will need to do some trading to complete your set at these ratios.
This is of course the best of odds. It is pretty clear that to make a set you must trade to get there unless you buy more boxes. Looks to me like three is the best bet for those of you interested in getting the whole set. Trading for the rest of the Reverse Holos and maybe a few Holos.
That indeed ladies and gents (and for some I use that term loosely lol) is a true TCG. Trading Card Game. I love reverse holo-foil treatment.
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ebArtemis410
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posted May 20, 2002 02:38 PM
Now, how about the Sealed Deck rarity schemes? Could you divulge into how many rares/uncommons/commons will be in those?
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Pkmnrulz241. I already told you...
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posted May 20, 2002 03:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by nick15: [QB]Pkmnrulz241. yadda yadda yadda Well, your mostly correct, but not correct if the viewer of the list changes to the other views of the list. Then it wouldn't be correct.[QB]
Yadda Yadda Yadda!?!?! Where did that come from???
quote: No.... because it's database based means that the user WILL be able to change the views.
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posted May 20, 2002 08:03 PM
ebartamis- I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure no one has said that there are going to be randomized sealed decks. all I've heard is 2 fixed theme decks and 11 card randomized booster packs.
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FireFighter09
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posted May 20, 2002 10:07 PM
Now for the 4th time ill ask this question that has paluged me. This question for some reason is a question DMTM WONT ANSWER:
what will the prizes for the rochester be?? Legendary Collection packs or Neo Destiny packs???
Please even if you cant answer it tell me so i know. Ive asked over 4 times and now am wondering if this questiuon is ready to answer. [ May 20, 2002, 10:09 PM: Message edited by: FireFighter09 ]
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Big_Pappa_Poke
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posted May 21, 2002 07:47 AM
quote: Originally posted by UtahPokeDad: What are the odds of getting 4 unique box toppers with only buying 4 boxes? Ain't going to happen, especially when you can't see which one you are getting before opening the box.
3 in 32.... about 1 in 11, not exactly "ain't going to happen" numbers, but tough
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DMTM
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posted May 21, 2002 09:24 AM
quote: Originally posted by FireFighter09: Now for the 4th time ill ask this question that has paluged me. This question for some reason is a question DMTM WONT ANSWER:
what will the prizes for the rochester be?? Legendary Collection packs or Neo Destiny packs???
Please even if you cant answer it tell me so i know. Ive asked over 4 times and now am wondering if this questiuon is ready to answer.
The reason I have not answered some questions as I have said a couple times in this thread is I don't know or cannot say. But your question is of topic in any case.
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DMTM
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posted May 21, 2002 10:59 AM
Not 100% percent sure of the numbering scheme. So I best not say.
Both of the PCD's are not randomly constructed. What I mean by "sealed play" is both Draft and PCD's with boosters.
We have not yet created a Magic type "sealed" product with random cards in it for Pokémon.
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posted May 21, 2002 02:55 PM
DMTM---POJO.com just posted a set listing for LC. Is that list correct? Looks like other sets. What do you think?
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Unown Trainer
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posted May 21, 2002 03:02 PM
If you are looking at a version with Basic Energy cards listed, I think they are wrong. Is this set supposed to have Basic Energy in it? I thought it wouldn't, but I don't want to dig through 20+ pages to find it.
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DMTM
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posted May 21, 2002 03:10 PM
It looks okay. I did not look closely. I sent it to them so it should be right.
No Basic Energy in LC.
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