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farbsman
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posted May 29, 2003 06:26 PM
I was wondering if anyone had heard anything from Nintendo other then that there application for organizing tournaments had been recieved.
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yoshi1001
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posted May 29, 2003 06:29 PM
I haven't recieved anything new. I also couldn't get anything out of nintendo at their poke-chat yesterday. You'd think they'd have gone through the applications by now.
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posted May 29, 2003 06:33 PM
I can't even get my application to go through! I have tried to send it from three different e-mails! It constantly bounces back.
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Big_Pappa_Poke
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posted May 29, 2003 09:41 PM
I have emailed Nintendo twice and gotten no response. Someone had posted in another thread that some professors have been contacted directly by Nintendo, but I have not seen that either. ![[Mad]](../tcg/mad.gif)
It looks like I will be running Magic tournaments after July, since WotC has not responded to my questions about Showdown Sports or Star Wars.
Then again, there's always LotR and Star Trek... ![[Eek!]](../tcg/eek.gif)
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Gym Leader Blaine
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posted May 30, 2003 07:53 AM
I got a email from Nintendo that they had gotten my app, but that is all. I have emailed them asking about it, but no email back. ![[Frown]](../tcg/frown.gif)
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posted May 30, 2003 11:33 PM
Have received the e-mail stating I am being considered. Hope to hear something soon. The owner of the Store I run Battlezone at has confirmed that we will have RubySapphire upon its release. No change in box price!
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ukpokemonpro
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posted May 31, 2003 04:03 AM
Nothing from Nintendo UK ... no reply to emails and calls..
TPC UK very friendly and willing to at least talk.. Ruby and Sapphire for GBA still not here as for the TCG from Nintendo...
Well they seem to ignore it completely...
Anyone know where we can buy some cases for import to the UK?
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posted May 31, 2003 05:49 AM
anyoen have the email i can contact nintendo??
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posted May 31, 2003 08:45 AM
Got a reply from Nintendo that I'm being considered.
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posted May 31, 2003 08:53 AM
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Originally posted by pokedok:
Got a reply from Nintendo that I'm being considered.
When was this?
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posted May 31, 2003 10:23 AM
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Originally posted by pokedok:
Got a reply from Nintendo that I'm being considered.
Congrats on being considered. This is the only thing that I have gotten back from them:
Thanks for your interest in the premier tournament organizer program for the Pokemon-e TCG. We have received your application and are reviewing all of the candidates.
Organized Play Staff
Pokemon USA, Inc.
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posted June 01, 2003 06:31 AM
A lack of emails doesn't mean a lack of concern. They've got a lot of people to deal with, they can't reply back to every one of them. (Automated reply maybe, but even then that would seem "impersonal".)
Patience is a virtue. Good things come to those who wait.
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posted June 01, 2003 07:33 AM
Patience may be a virtue but we have been waiting a very long time in the UK........
I get the impression that we are being ignored because they are unable to admit that they have nothing planned outside the USA. If we had anything official about lack of intent in the UK then we could raise it higher up the corporate ladder. But by just ignoring us there is little we can do.
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from the PR company that Nintendo use in the UK:
TPC UK should be able to assist with all your card related enquiries. Release dates/samples etc.
We (the PR co) will only be doing the PR for the gameboy game itself. Please can you make sure that all further game related enquiries come through us.
looks like a brush off to me
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posted June 01, 2003 10:27 AM
You folks in Europe have to understand that even the Nintendo offices in North America know very little about the card game. They have been in the video game industry for nearly thirty years, I highly doubt anyone in the company remains from the days when they produced card games. Even if, they didnt produce "trading" card games with organized play. In my opinion, contacting Nintendo right now is a joke. Go Email Pokemon USA or The Pokemon Company. Nintendo Customer Service will not answer your detailed questions because they:
1. are not involved as of now with OP
2. are without cards in hand
3. do not know what is planned
4. do not know any specifics, other than what is posted up at the site
Really, you guys need to contact [email protected] about organized play and [email protected] for retail.
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posted June 01, 2003 11:52 AM
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You folks in Europe have to understand.....
Thank you Phil for your insight and understanding, once again you have shown your true depth of knowledge about our situation that has remained hidden from us Guys and Gals here in the UK.
Surely you were not wrong saying that the past is no indication of the future and indeed I remain positive that the UK's Challenge event in London will have prizes supplied from the US.
Indeed many of the prizes will have been bought from the US via eBay just as it appears we will now have to do for our future OP support.
All we would like is a response even if that is to say wrong department go and talk to these guys here.. But then I am showing that lack of understanding again I really must remember..
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You folks in Europe have to understand.....
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posted June 01, 2003 12:29 PM
I look around here at the Wizards site and playingpokemon.com and see not one reference to the UK Challenge Event. No advertising, not a even a small reference to Challanges in the past in Europe at either site. The only thing that I see posted up a playingpokemon.com is the Belgium Stadium Challange that was this weekend. There is not even a sanctioned event planned in England... is this event even offical? There is no indication anywhere that WotC/DCI/TPC or anyone deemed it to be official. If it is an offical event, seriously, you folks got screwed over because they are clearly not doing anything for it. But if its unofficial, why are you demanding support? Majority of tournaments I've been to cover the costs via registration/entry fees. But were getting off-topic here.
Pokemon USA/The Pokemon Company is not really united. Pokemon USA is based in New York while NOA's offices are in Seattle, as well as the other Nintendo departments and TPC departments scattered around the globe. Surely, Customer Support at Nintendo cant handle Organized Play questions because Pokemon USA and partners are the ones responsable for that aspect of the game currently. If they dont respond, its probably due to the fact they arent at liberty to discuss the topic. WotC still holds the license to the game. There is alot of legality issues involved with the transfer of a product. In addition, TPC apparently has yet to announce its international partners to pick up the game, as mentioned in my interview with Pokemon USA.
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posted June 01, 2003 01:16 PM
Its not about 'if the offices know little or not!'
They don't return our calls.
They don't reply to emails.
and yes I have emailed both of the USA offices you mentioned: but so far no reply.
It would be polite if we got a reply it doesn't have to say much. Just a thanks for your interest would be nice!
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Ah but then I forgot. we don't have any sanctioned tournaments in the UK LOL. IPGeek had better stay on the plane 'cos there isn't a tournament in London on the 14th. The Pokemon Company will find an empty hall. Magazine coverage of past events...just a figment of our imaginations. Yep you are right I DONT UNDERSTAND.
But then neither do you ! ![[Roll Eyes]](../tcg/rolleyes.gif)
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posted June 01, 2003 02:42 PM
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I look around here at the Wizards site and playingpokemon.com and see not one reference to the UK Challenge Event. No advertising, not a even a small reference to Challanges in the past in Europe at either site.
And that would be our fault Phil because we have only chased our local WotC office to update the website for the last 4 years ... but then you know that already sorry I forget your an expert on our difficulties ..
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Surely, Customer Support at Nintendo cant handle Organized Play questions because Pokemon USA and partners are the ones responsable for that aspect of the game currently. If they dont respond, its probably due to the fact they arent at liberty to discuss the topic.
We understand the fact they may not be at liberty to discuss but they can at least reply or is it common business practice to ignore your customers in the US?
Even a we can't tell you anything yet but we're working on it would be nice.
International Partners continue to be ghostly images rather than firmed up partners ready to go on or about the 18th ...
But hey never mind cos you'll be fine Phil the US will get OP and Product and the rest of us ...we we just gotta remember
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You folks in Europe have to understand.....
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"London Super Battlezone 2003"
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posted June 01, 2003 04:26 PM
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Originally posted by GymLeaderPhil:
You folks in Europe have to understand that even the Nintendo offices in North America know very little about the card game.
Might want to finish that quote. Because I'm trying to tell you that were all in the same boat. We are one community, working towards the same cause. If there is confusion over there, there is confusion over here. Personally, I've been in contact with PUI up until a few weeks ago. Recently, my questions have not been answered which makes me consider the fact that they also have deadlines they are trying to reach. Making one person happy is a minor thing if it means a release date is pushed back. That makes more people unhappy. See the logic? Take that into consideration before we start whining over one simple Email.
Also, if I state something wrong about Europe, or if others do, correct me. I only post my opinion, info, and advice on subjects because I want to help, even if I'm rusty on the topic. I know that I've not been through the trials and tribulations you have experienced. I'm blank in that field. But consider the sources that give me my information: You. So fill in those blanks instead of bashing me for sticking my neck in. I only do it to help. It is certainly not giving me any benefits which is mostly the attitude among most people here who dont reside in Europe.
As well, lemme make one thing clear. I do not decide who gets more support, organized play, and everything else. Nor does anyone else who plays this game. Though it seems to me that whenever I argue my point on a "european" issue, I get in defense the argument that we recieve more support. Would you rather I tell WotC/TPC/Nintendo to take back the support they give me? Really, this is getting silly, because if it was up to me, everyone would be equal so we can end these silly little territorial arguments.
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posted June 02, 2003 12:12 AM
GLPhil Says
1) we are all in the same boat!
2) We are one community
3) PUI talk to him
4) replying to emails/telepone calls might delay the release date.
5) We are whining over a simple email
6) GLPhill only posts helpfull advice
7) But GLPhil is blank about the trouble we've experienced in Europe
8) GLPhill has 'Sources' that keep him informed
9) GLPhill is sticking his neck in
10) Don't correct GLPhill
11) GLPhilh has opinions on Europe
12) GLphill want's us all to be equal.
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You are right Phil I don't understand but its all so clear now!
Does that make you feel ok? Will you stop lecturing us about Europe now? PLEASE!
There seems little point in replying as you do not see the inconsistancies in your posts
BUT Amen to Number 12)
The topic was about 'had anyone heard from Nintendo' I was answering in the negative and giving some detail as to what we had established in the UK. Imagine my surprise when I'm informed that I don't understand and that someone else in the USA has the inside track on what Nintendo UK and the UK distributors are going to get.
The distribution chain over here is livid too. grey imports affect them too. Maybe I should give you their emails phone numbers so you can explain to them that 'THEY DONT UNDERSTAND'
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posted June 02, 2003 09:14 AM
How did my question become a debate on who has it worse, the people on the other side of the ocean or the US? We all know they have it worse, but CONSTANTLY turning every post into a whine fest for Europe players is getting old. Now can we please get back on topic??
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posted June 02, 2003 09:37 AM
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Because I'm trying to tell you that were all in the same boat. We are one community, working towards the same cause
RIGHT !!!
I think we have to be patient and keep together, US, Europe, Asia, ...
Wizards has still the rights on the game, and we don't know the implications of that. Is Nintendo/TPC free to say everything, to do everything they want now ? I don't know.
I've got an answer from TPC when I've sent my application form. They said they were interested in European TO's because there will be OP in Europe.
That's a good start. We'll maybe not be directly at the same level as the USA (releases, OP, ...), but it has always been like that with Wizards. ![[ROFL]](../tcg/graemlins/roflmao.gif) Uh, not funny actually !
The most important thing is that Europe and the other parts of the World are at the same level quite quickly.
But I do agree with Ben; when you send an email to someone, you need an answer. Even if it's to say that they don't know. Common courtesy ![[Smile]](../tcg/smile.gif)
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posted June 02, 2003 09:56 AM
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How did my question become a debate on who has it worse, the people on the other side of the ocean or the US? We all know they have it worse, but CONSTANTLY turning every post into a whine fest for Europe players is getting old. Now can we please get back on topic??
farbsman/Michel,
we never intended this to become a whine fest indeed I still believe it isn't but we are royally fed up with certain posters telling us what we need to understand when they have no idea of the conversations, contacts and emails that have been happening.
Both Myself and NoPoke posted our experiences of Nintendo contact.. or lack off.
But then we were told what we "need to underderstand" well sorry if we got a little miffed about that but what needs to be understood is that so far we in the UK have done the following:
Contacted Nintendo UK .. and been met with no replies to emails or phone calls and until Friday no information.
Contacted the Marketing Company Nintendo UK are using to promote their games in the UK.
Contacted the Pokemon Company UK and met with their representatives.
Emailed both OP and NOA on what the plans are for the UK and Europe ... no response so far.. not even a confirmation of earlier statements that OP is planned for Europe.
Contacted The Official Nintendo Magazine (the UK equivalent of Nintendo Power) reference coverage of events in their magazine.
So we have not been on a whine fest, we have been on a quest for answers .. Some of you can probably afford to sit around and wait for NOA to feed you but we as ever feel the need to fight our corner and let Nintendo know that there is OP and players OUTSIDE THE US.
We await the results of the NOA's and OP's quest for European Partners with baited breath .. and we feel we must keep some pressure on Nintendo otherwise we fear they will go all WotC UK on us.
So no not a whine about how poor we have it here, just a rant against KNOW IT ALL posters who don't!
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posted June 02, 2003 10:26 AM
I didn't mean my post to be a direct attack against you guys in the UK. It just seems every time we post something about having trouble here in the US someone over in the UK has to post something about how much worse it is over there.
I would love to help you guys and gals out over there, but we can't even get any info here, let alone there. I do find it troubling that Nintendo has yet to say anything about overseas support of the game. Heck I find it troubling that Nintendo is going to be running the card game, they have enough trouble beating Sony in the game market, so now they are gonna try competing with Hasbro and Upperdeck? That makes no sence to me at all, but whatever.
The way I see it right now we are all kinda in the same boat. The only difference is Nintendo USA has actually said they are going to be doing the card game. Nintendo UK hasn't. Other then that none of us seem to have information on what is going on.
My favorite thing so far out of this whole thing was my phone call the other day with Nintendo when I asked how I would be able to get the cards for our store. I was told he didn't have that information yet. I asked how they expected to get the cards out if 3 weeks before release they couldn't even give us info and I was told I had to understand that Nintendo was a larger company then Wizards and that information may not be available until the cards are out.
Now isn't Wizards owned by Hasbro? Now which company is bigger? Oh well.
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posted June 02, 2003 10:29 AM
Official word from Nintendo's PR company in the UK is..
1) Nintendo UK will NOT be supporting the trading card game.
2) It is Nintendo Policy NOT to reply to unsolicited emails and phone calls.
I guess that goes some way to explaining the silence but I find it iteresting that it is company POLICY not to reply to emails and phone calls!
Nintendo UK are aparentlyupset that we have been contacting them with offers of help with OP in the UK!
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