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Cloud Zeus

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posted August 08, 2001 09:40 AM      Profile for Cloud Zeus      Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
That's right. This was a hot topic in the old Pokegym so I decided to post another topic about rule benders because they are sooo funny.

Here are a few of the ones that I've seen:
Once, I saw a little kid play with a deck that was in top loaders.

I also saw a kid with 26 Rainbow Energies. I felt bad because he had to trade like no other to get all of those cards.

I also saw a kids that thought you could have all of the Pokemon fully powered up on your bench at the beginning of the game. He had 2 Charizards with 4 fire energies.


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posted August 08, 2001 09:53 AM      Profile for Charwolf   Email Charwolf    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Um, playing in toploaders is legal unless he's using japanese cards....
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Cloud Zeus

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posted August 08, 2001 09:59 AM      Profile for Cloud Zeus      Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
I didn't say it was illegal, m'kay? I thought it was funny. His deck was HUGE. It was so hard for him to shuffle it, m'kay?
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timsmith

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posted August 08, 2001 10:43 AM      Profile for timsmith   Email timsmith    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
I saw a kid playing in top loaders too. But last week, I saw 2 kids playing with pokemon that were already knocked out...

It was crazy, these two 6 year olds arguing.....


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PokePop

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posted August 08, 2001 10:50 AM      Profile for PokePop   Email PokePop    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
I was playing a kid that had a Ditto active with 4 Damage Counters.
I retreated my active for an Erika's Dratini, Knocking Out the Ditto.

After he discarded the Ditto and I drew my Prize, he started to draw a card from his deck.
"What are you doing?" I asked.
"Since you Knocked Out a Pokemon, it's my turn now..." he said.


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posted August 08, 2001 11:12 AM      Profile for Sandshrew   Email Sandshrew    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
This happened to me:

I had a growlithe with 2 energies, against his heracross with none...I didn't own a heracross yet...and I didnt' know what it did...so I used flare on the heracross, doing 40 to it and bringing it down to 20 hp. The next turn, the kid draws, and says " Final Blow, 120 damage. I win. " I'm like What the are you talking about! And I grabbed the card, read it, told the kid he was an Idiot, and used takedown for 160 next turn.


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posted August 08, 2001 11:19 AM       Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
At league last Saturday, my daughter volunteered to help a boy and girl (who were brother and sister) learn to play the game. My daughter is 10 and the 2 kids had to be about 7 - 9 years old. My daughter was helping them as the two siblings battled each other. This apparently didn't please the brother. He finally turned toward my daughter and said that she couldn't teach them unless she was a coach. At that point my daughter showed them the coach's sticker on the back of her badge book. The boy's jaw about hit the floor. His response was that he thought girls weren't allowed to be coaches. His sister was quite please to hear otherwise.
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posted August 08, 2001 11:29 AM      Profile for SpaghettiOs   Email SpaghettiOs    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
There are 2 people at my local tournies that use toploaders EVERY TIME. This one guy and his son have been playing with toploaders for about 2 years now. At first I was like "Yah right!" but since he's been playing for SO LONG, I've just kinda gotten used to it. He's good at shuffeling his toploaders (his son isn't that great though) and if he 6-stacks, it's just as shuffleded as any normal deck.
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posted August 08, 2001 02:09 PM      Profile for JTP      Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
yeah i was the one who made this topic on the old pokemon gym.

i saw a kid at leauge who wad a 100 card deck i played him and he put 30 pokemon on the bench since he was so little i decided to let it go and tell him after the game.(or he would cry!)


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SteveP

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posted August 08, 2001 02:23 PM      Profile for SteveP   Email SteveP    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
As a judge, I've gotten about 3-4 complaints about this one kid that uses foreign coins during coin flips. Against young beginners, I've heard this kid changes what's a heads or tails each turn to his advantage. I haven't seen it, but I guess I'll just have to ask the kid to use US coins or the plastic Pokemon coins.
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SteveP

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posted August 08, 2001 02:24 PM      Profile for SteveP   Email SteveP    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
As a judge, I've gotten about 3-4 complaints about this one kid that uses foreign coins during coin flips. Against young beginners, I've heard this kid changes what's a heads or tails each turn to his advantage. I haven't seen it, but I guess I'll just have to ask the kid to use US coins or the plastic Pokemon coins.
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Rainy God
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posted August 08, 2001 02:46 PM      Profile for Rainy God   Email Rainy God    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
There was this little girl at my old League. She would attach like eight energy a turn to her active.(i beat her anyways)
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posted August 08, 2001 03:41 PM      Profile for Creepy1999      Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Rainy God WY huh. I'm going there in about a week to visit Relatives, but that's in Riverton. I hope they have a league there or in Worland... If they have one in worland I'll be in Shock.

Any who. At my league there's a lot of cheaters. Lots of trainers play single prize games so they can get more pionts. Some walk up to the Gym leader table and say they win even though they didn't or they didn't even play. That's more rare, but common for little kids to do. Both players will play the challenge, for example: They will both call Chuck's Challenge and rumage through their decks for a basic. I just think it's less challenging that way.

When I go up against some kids, and they start loseing, They start drawing a prize at the begining of their turn and at the end. I don't know if they just forgot or they are in fact trying to Cheat. My favorite rule bender is when they think a gym they put down only effects the opponent and not them. Example: Choas gym... "I don't have to flip a coin I put it down."
Steve P I use a forien coin but before I star the game I show them which is heads and which is tails. Then ask them if they got it. Maybe you should have the kid do that to. So there's no confusion.


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SteveP

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posted August 08, 2001 06:03 PM      Profile for SteveP   Email SteveP    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Creepy, I see you're from the US. Why do you use non-US coins? Some kids under 10 may get confused. The coins are legitimate I suppose, but 7-9 year old kids don't need to be worrying about what's heads or tails during a tournament battle. Sure, if an older opponent doesn't mind, that's okay. Anything that might confuse a younger kid, I would definately frown upon in tournament.
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espeon87
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posted August 08, 2001 07:22 PM      Profile for espeon87      Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
sorry if this is a stupid question but whats toploader?
um, lets see, one time this kid i was playing insisted that recycle energy counted as every kind.

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timsmith

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posted August 08, 2001 08:23 PM      Profile for timsmith   Email timsmith    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Toploader are those hard plastics.....
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Rainy God
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posted August 08, 2001 08:30 PM      Profile for Rainy God   Email Rainy God    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Yeap, WY. That's where I live but not proud of it. They only have League and Tournaments(DCI).League is every Monday/Friday and DCI's are well.....since I've gotten here there hasn't been any(2 weeks!). The reason why I am not proud of living here is that has never ever been a QT here, and I asked the "best" kid if he has even ever heard of the STS, and he replied, "What's an STS?". So well.....I am the best person there in Pokemon EVER.
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posted August 08, 2001 08:32 PM      Profile for Rainy God   Email Rainy God    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Also this kid in CO at League thought that DCE counted as any kind, so I asked him why they made Rainbow Energy, he said because WOTC wanted to make the cards more rare.
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posted August 09, 2001 08:42 AM      Profile for Murkrow Master#1   Email Murkrow Master#1    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
A little kid at my League said that Ursaring rules.Man I own that kid!!!
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posted August 09, 2001 09:03 AM      Profile for soccerking      Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
i once played one of those annoying little eight year olds that only collect because their parents buy them every little cards off the internet. he battled with a top- loader deck. it was about one and a half feet tall. he had to make it into two stacks. he played a charizard deck. the funniest thig was that about 50 cards were japanese and he didn't know what they did! once i asked him why the he played all these cards he didn't even know. he just (in a high pitched voice) because they look cool! he told me he didn't even like pokemon. he just came because his mom made him because she spent like $750 on his little whim of pokemon cards. well a bunch of kids told the gym leader and she talked to him and i think she accidently scaired him off. i luv Graemlins! the funny thing is is that as soon as he left the whole pokemon league got like 10 times more fun! ha ha!
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posted August 09, 2001 12:58 PM      Profile for Sandshrew   Email Sandshrew    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Here's what happened:

Me: I use poisonpowder. You're Poisoned.
Kid: Ok.
~~He flips a coin.~~
Me: What are you doing?
Kid: I'm Flipping to see if I'm un-poisoned...duh...
Me: ...uhh...
Kid: Heads! I'm Not Poisoned!


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posted August 09, 2001 01:32 PM      Profile for Dunjohn      Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Once, at my local league (when it was still running, sniff sniff), these two kids were bragging about how their deck would easily beat each others, you know the way. So they decided to have a match, but the bragging kept going on and on while they were setting things up, so they decided to bend the rules slightly to show how great the decks were. By the time the game actually got underway, both had their benches full of the best creatures in the deck, fully charged up and evolved. Then they had the audacity to ask for points afterwards!

Another time, two kids (one of whom was in the fight above) were well into a battle between a green poison deck and a brown deck based around Dark Dugtrio. The green trainer tried to retreat and flipped a coin for Dugtrio's Power, but the coin went on the floor. Then his opponant protested that it was HIM that should flip. So he did, but then someone else actually read the card...anyway, it went on like that for about five minutes until everyone who wasn't playing was crowded around the table shouting. By that time the players had forgotten whose turn it was and why they were flipping.


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posted August 09, 2001 10:39 PM      Profile for desertfox52   Email desertfox52    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
SteveP- I know the kid you are talking about. What he does is he says that the side with the head on it is tails. That really confuses the other kids. I got pretty confused as to which side was which when I played him too. Now on to my little kids and rule benders... I saw one kid who thought that you could attack as many non basic energies during your turn and it wouldn't count as your energy attachment. Another kid made fun of my Feraligatr deck because he said I used the wrong Feraligatr ("That Feraligatr stinks! It only does 10+!") There was this other kid at a tournament I was judging who didn't have a deck made. I called the pairings for the first round, and he sat at the table and started building his deck. I felt really bad, but I had to give him a match loss. Apparently hte deck he had shown me during deck check was his friend's and he didn't have one ready for the tournament. Another kid thought you could have 3 fully powered Pokemon out to start the game (just like the battles on the TV show)
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posted August 09, 2001 11:22 PM      Profile for giovanni_the boss   Email giovanni_the boss    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
I have playd this kid that would go in lalaland all the time and did not even no to read his cards and I gave up to him he kept geting on my nerves but thats ok
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SteveP

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posted August 09, 2001 11:26 PM      Profile for SteveP   Email SteveP    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Here's some classic rule bendings I've run across, and not necessarily by kids (some adults are guilty).


1. Recycle Energy returns to your hand when discarded using Computer Search and Prof Oak.

2. Smokescreen effect doesn't go away after retreating.

3. You don't have to flip against an active baby if your attack doesn't do damage.

4. Baby power works on the bench.

5. Decks can be shuffled at any time during a game.

6. Players can't shuffle their opponent's deck after they've shuffled it, and can only cut it once.

7. First player doesn't draw a card (like in Magic).

8. You must tell your opponent what kind of deck your playing with before starting a tournament game.

9. You don't have a choice. You MUST draw 2 cards on a mulligan.

10. Pokemon Breeder can be used on a baby to jump to a stage 1 Pokemon (i.e., Cleffa-Clefable).

11. The infamous Metal-on-Erika's-Clefairy reduces damage to zero.

12. You must declare ALL Pokemon Powers (i.e., you can't use Invisable Wall on Mr.Mime if you forgot to turn it on during your turn).

13. You can only use colorless energy (DCE) on colorless Pokemon.

14. Weakness is determined by the energy attached on the Attacking Pokemon.

15. Pokemon can't attack the same turn they're played.

16. If your hand is gone, draw 7 new cards.

17. The same coin toss used to attack a baby is used to paralyze with Thundershock (Electabuzz).

18. A confused Pokemon doesn't have to flip to retreat.

19. You can't look through your opponent's discard pile.

20. You can't use different gym leaders (i.e., Brock & Blaine) in the same deck.


That's just a few I've seen.


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