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Magby Guru
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posted March 14, 2002 01:24 PM
Can you say: MAGIC?
this is so cool, now I can make an all foil deck!
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PsyGuyGENGAR
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posted March 14, 2002 01:29 PM
Brooks you are a NUT CASE
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Kangasage88
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posted March 14, 2002 01:41 PM
quote: Originally posted by Magby Guru: Can you say: MAGIC?
this is so cool, now I can make an all foil deck!
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Oh yeah.....I have an all Foil Magic deck.
Now i need to find Foil Totodiles....
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Satoshi_Of_Pojo
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posted March 14, 2002 02:12 PM
When Base Set 3(?) is released, will us older players be able to play older copies of re-released cards or will we need the newer versions... ie will there be text change, etc? =/
*glances at his 7 base/base set 2 Blastoises and grins*
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Golden Suikun
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posted March 14, 2002 02:26 PM
I think what defines "best of Red and Blue" is statistics of Pokémon. For example, Venusaur and Victrebell were the best Grass types in the game at the time, Alakazam and Mewtwo were best psychics...
Anyway, I believe this set would be a hybrid of Vending, Intro Pack, and reprints (which would really do well in Modified.) I have already made a guesstimation list on my site (look at signature.) Think of all of the possibilities. Vending Haunter and Mysterious Fossil in Modifed decks, as well as other cards that would give up new strategies to play with. If legal in Modified, this expansion can be very sought-after, after already saying this will have paralell foil cards, which would really be a good, too. This is one of these expansions I can't wait for. Thanks DMTM for all of the information.
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Q-Bone the Goodnatured
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posted March 14, 2002 02:26 PM
Hmm, if Champions is vending, and each card will have a Holo counterpart... HOLO CUBONE!
It almost makes up for it's absence in the last eight sets... almost...
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posted March 14, 2002 03:21 PM
how did the "new demension" rumor get started,i thought it was too premature...
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Lord_Ninetales
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posted March 14, 2002 04:03 PM
quote: Originally posted by farbsman: quote: Originally posted by Lord_Ninetales:
What I would prefer (but probably not get) is an adaption to the current probabilities - its currently 1 foil-rare to 2 rares; so keep that, but also have 1 foil-uncommon to 2 uncommons, 1 foil-common to 2 commons and maybe 1 foil-energy to 2 energies. That would be expensive though.
This wouldn't be expensive, think about it, we currently get 3 uncommons per pack and 7 commons. So you could get 1 rare foil, 1 uncommon foil and maybe 3 common foils in a pack!!!
Heheh.. Statistically that would work out as 11 cards in 33 (or one pack in three) would be all foil (the other 22 cards / 2 packs would be all non-foil). That would be very nice, but somehow I think it is unlikely .
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miltank11
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posted March 14, 2002 06:05 PM
I was thinkin' maybe each card rarity (common, uncommon,etc) might have its own holo-rarity (commons 8/9 or whatever), thus leaving an incredibly low (but possible) chance of an all-foil booster and an "Oh man that's lucky" chance of an all-foil box. I can dream, right?
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Darkleaf Master
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posted March 14, 2002 06:57 PM
Will this set be included in modified? I kinda like the Neo Up Genesis Block format which really doesnt exist yet.. and the present modified is nice....
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red5bv06
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posted March 14, 2002 08:36 PM
This has got me all excited now! Just in time for my birthday! I hope it includes: Vending Set, Japanese-only promos, and SOME reprints. Mysterious Fossil needs to be remade in some capacity, and I think this is how Wizards will do it.
Parallel Foils in Pokémon a good idea.
All-in-all, I think this set will be very popular and sell very well.
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nick15
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posted March 14, 2002 09:52 PM
DMTM: I don't know who came up with the name "Safari Zone" but please stop using it! It is not our name for any set. It think it will only confuse people.
Oh, you're no fun any more.
(BTW, I made up the name "Safari Zone" because "Vending" is such a dumb name to use. I thought it would have caught on by now, but I guess not.)
I still think Champions is Vending though. [ March 14, 2002, 09:54 PM: Message edited by: nick15 ]
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Golduck
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posted March 14, 2002 11:49 PM
I was right! E-card isn't the next set! But...but...? Will E-card ever be released? And will Champions have barcodes? Dude, I'm confused!
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Aipom's_Bum
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posted March 15, 2002 03:36 AM
Oh, god... if they use the same distributor as they did with Destiny, think of all the PROBLEMS...
'My box had 42 foils in it!'
'Mine had 9 '
'I got 33 Foil Goldeen!'
Wizards, you better get a REALLY good distributor for this set...
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GymLeaderPhil
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posted March 15, 2002 05:31 AM
MTM mentioned something about modified format changing later this year... if this set is another Base Set 2, which would help the current format to become even easier, again know that the modified format is changing sometime this year. But I doubt that is what the set is (another BS2), it would really mess up that modified format. I would have to agree with most people here and say that it will be the Vending Series reborn... or who knows? Maybe DMTM just likes teasing Nick15 with Card Set numbers in the 110s ^_- -Phil [ March 15, 2002, 09:06 AM: Message edited by: GymLeaderPhil ]
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SauroN
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posted March 15, 2002 06:12 AM
quote: Originally posted by Satoshi_Of_Pojo: *glances at his 7 base/base set 2 Blastoises and grins*
September = Base Set 3 = Possible base Blastoise in Modified = Satoshi becoming a happy lad once again >=)
That would kickass
Anyway I dont think that Professor Oak, Computer Search or Item Finder will be printed in this set. It would IMO destroy Modified. WHY? that makes Modified a umm "speed" format where everyone draws through their whole deck and gets everything going turn 2 =/ Bill would be cool tho. Dont even think about energy removal =/
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ukpokemonpro
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posted March 15, 2002 08:53 AM
Now that sounds really good.. and means we probably have Base 3 (cross trainer) still on the back burner and ready to go ....
This just got really interesting
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LizardOTC
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posted March 15, 2002 02:14 PM
All I can say is that this may accomplish the dethroning of the big reptile!
If it does so, however it does so, short of replacing Gatr with something just as bad, then I will be VERY happy.
At the very least, this will widen the available card pool for Modified. This is exactly what must happen. I would be very excited to get new cards from the Vending series! If there should be reprints, just imagine the possibilities...
The best trainers to add, IMO would be Pokémon Breeder and Pokémon Trader!
Lessee, how 'bout this turn-2 scenario:
1) Breeder Chikorita to Meganium
2) Guillotine with Jungle/Champions Pinsir for 100 damage to the opposing Croc!
*wipes away drool*
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kakkaroto7
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posted March 15, 2002 04:14 PM
or what about this scenario? Turn two: breed to blastoise. attach 6 energy to blastiose. Attack for 60. =D also, lightning is no problem in modified, though it may start up if blasty starts up. Light Jolteon, Rocket's Zapdos, ect.
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nick15
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posted March 15, 2002 04:27 PM
For that reason alone, Kak, is why I don't think Blastoise will be in Base Set 3.
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Rocket's Sandshrew
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posted March 15, 2002 05:34 PM
Maybe they'll just re-release all of the useful cards in base, jungle, and fossil, but excluding the broken ones (IF, OAK, CPU, LASS, WIGGLY, SER), therby re-building standard without all the broken cards...they'd still be dissallowed, as they were not re-released in BS3.
Standard w/o Oak, CPU, IF, Lass, Wiggly, Sneasel, SER, = The best possible format. [ March 15, 2002, 05:35 PM: Message edited by: Rocket's Sandshrew ]
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LizardOTC
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posted March 16, 2002 08:36 AM
This is exactly what I hoped to see happen with my Hybrid Format proposal...but that had several problems which a BS3 would solve!
Base Set 3 could widen the trainer and Pokémon card pools, WITHOUT allowing broken cards back in. There were many defensive trainers in older sets which were not broken! There were many good stall Pokémon, and some with energy removing attacks or interesting Powers that would not unbalance the game. In fact, including the right Pokémon and trainers could finally allow strategies other than the massive OHKO attack that has made Modified so...unidimensional, and therefore stale.
In addition to avoiding the inclusion of broken Pokémon, Base set 3 would have the advantage (from the corporate POV) of encouraging new card sales. This is a good thing, because when Pokémon makes money, more time and money get put into its development and promotion!!! [ March 16, 2002, 08:38 AM: Message edited by: LizardOTC ]
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posted March 16, 2002 11:21 AM
Do the cards in this new set will be like card-e or like all other cards????
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Baboon
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posted March 16, 2002 03:02 PM
I have a somewhat good point here... I don't think there will be Base3, but I don't work at Wizards .
Like people before said, they'll take out the broken cards. Ok, except that will prompt 2 problems: 1. The set will be a piece of junk, having no power cards, just like Gym1,... 2. The people with the older broken cards, i.e.: me , will still have them!
Base2 was somewhat wasteful, seeing as everywhere you go, you still see Base2 packs on the shelves... Making a THIRD would be even WORSE!! (Unless they split the set with half or more new cards...) [ March 16, 2002, 03:03 PM: Message edited by: Baboon ]
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y2ace
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posted March 16, 2002 05:53 PM
wow new set.... Can you say draft? lol can u imagine all the holo cards now? All we need are all holo trainers and the game is ready for the all holo deck wonder if all that metal is gonna set off the metal dectors in airports now causing a mass pokemon delay
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