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LizardOTC

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posted July 27, 2003 04:37 AM      Profile for LizardOTC      Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Well, today is the last day of Gen Con, the last WotC Premier Pokémon event.

It is a sad day for me, as I sit here sorting cards. I've loved playing this game for the last 5 years. In all, I think WotC has done a wonderful job. There have been mistakes and bumps in the road, but in all it's been a great ride.

I'm here for one reason only: I love the Pokémon TCG. There is just no other TCG that stikes a chord in me.

I will probably take a look at Duel Masters when it is released, but having looked at the Japanese website for that game, it just appears to be a YGO clone. But, I'll keep an open mind. And Neopets? Well, that one's a real longshot for me. And M:tG is just not my thing.

So, I'll definitely be throwing all my weight into the continuation of Pokémon. I'm especially looking forward to the tournament ladder system that's being set up. I'm in this game to compete at the highest possible level, and PUI is committed to furthering that competition. I'll continue to TO and judge, of course, but I am overjoyed to see the reinstatement of a 15+ player division under PUI, as well as the continuation of the Professor Program.

So, the bottom line is that I'm not really going anywhere. I'm staying with the game. I really hope and believe that other people will also!

Ordinarily, I'd wait until someone else started the big 'Goodbye Thread', and just add my post to it. However, I'm leaving tomorrow for a long vacation, and I'll still be away when this board closes, so I'm jumping out front a bit.

So, until the Sandstorm Prerelease Tournament... goodbye.

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mysterioustrainer

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posted July 27, 2003 11:21 AM      Profile for mysterioustrainer   Email mysterioustrainer    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Although I will continue to be the best Pokemon Trainer I can be, I have set my sights to Magic now as well. I competed in the Magic Sealed Tournament for their Core Set (Eight Edition) and I amazingly did surprisingly well for only playing the game for two days. I also have plans to check out Neopets and maybe Duelmasters but that will depend if I can get around my school expenses or not.

I remember on my 18th Birthday, I met Master Trainer Mike for the very first time at the Seattle STS East Qualifer. I was even able to battle him and by luckiest of luck even won. Back then I knew little of the MTs, but then I discovered that they were cool and that they made sure we the players had fun. It was then why I know WotC was a great company for Pokemon TCG and I hope that Nintendo continues their tradition of excellence with Pokemon-e TCG just as they do with all of their Video Games.

Overall, thanks one last time. It's been great.

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White Gryphon

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posted July 27, 2003 12:21 PM      Profile for White Gryphon      Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
I've never gone to GenCon, Origins, Worlds, or any kind of tournament... heck, I tried going to one for my b-day last year, two hours away from home, and when I got there I found out that the Prof in charge of running it moved away the week before and didn't bother to email me about it! So yeah, I've never been to any type of tournament, DCI-sanctioned or not... Never won any kind of prize... But hey, I didn't need to, not to enjoy this game for what it is.

I love the Pokemon TCG! I will never give it up, not even if the company running it gets caught up in a corporate scandal, or even if some weird virus eradicates 99% of the PTCG-playing population, never! I've learned enough about the game anyway, to where I can always teach someone how to play if I need a sparring partner. And that's one of the things I really love about this game, teaching others... I love it!

Wizards of the Coast, THANK YOU and God bless!

(|p|o|k|é|m|o|n| - not just MY anti-drug)

[ July 27, 2003, 12:23 PM: Message edited by: White Gryphon ]

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ukpokemonpro

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posted July 27, 2003 01:05 PM      Profile for ukpokemonpro   Email ukpokemonpro    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
No long goodbye for me just a continuation of the fun and work that I have both got and put into this great game.

As I looked round the players at our regular 4th Sunday tourney today playing for everything from oversized cards for 1st and 2nd to Plushies and Pokemon Footballs for the lower places.

I couldn't help but be proud for the way the game has grown in my area from 4 to 8 of us through the mad times with 40 plus kids trading and screaming to the core of 23 to 30 players now.

No goodbye then but a longing now to get on with it and push forward with Nintendo... we still need WotC UK to deliver the June and July BZ kits (nothing new there!!) and then we can move on.

I hope I can look forward to a league and tournament structure that will not leave us high and dry every year with promises never kept and programmes never quite fulfilled.

WotC Pokemon is dead, LONG LIVE POKEMON!

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"a meaningless title is just that ... meaningless"

"London Super Battlezone 2003"
quote the judge...

'only joking' on misreported match results: DQ Yep its that serious!


14,000 deck boxes yeah we'll take all of them .... what have I done!

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Tails

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posted July 27, 2003 08:41 PM      Profile for Tails   Email Tails    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Five years... Seems like a long time... But... I remember the day I found the game... Walking through Software Etc, suddenly... as I was walking ot the door, BAM! There it was. Being a card shark, picked it up, and haven't stopped playing since.

MT's... You guys are great. Not only through the organizational stuff you do for us, but the personality you bring to the table. Granted, Master Mike's singing through that last chat did get a bit out of hand... But that's part of the reason we all love you so!

Looking forward to NeoPets, might dabble in Magic... Not sure if I'm going to take a hand in Nintendo's offerings... They mean good, but it just won't be the same, y'know?

Dark Master Mike, don't let Gengar get into the servers, K?

Master Mike... I look forward to meeting you in the BattleDome.

And... everyone else... Game on.

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Otaku

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posted July 28, 2003 10:06 AM      Profile for Otaku   Email Otaku    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
I must bid farewell to WotC, unless the Transformers:TCG Hasbro was working on gets "un-cancelled": I am not interested in NeoPets, nor in any other product of theirs. While the games I ahve seen look good, I am a two TG erson: currently, that's Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh, though I am debating dropping YGO. Still, I would likely switch to a different type of game, erhaps the Hero-Clix or the like. Still, I am... satisfied, with WotC North American performance (the European performance seems rather lack-luster, on the other hand). WotC has done some amazing things for us Yanks at least, enough to make us forgiving for things that we never understood. So, like many, I wish WotC the best, and will continue with the Pokemon TCG under Nintendo... it may very well become a different game under Nintendo rules, particularly if Nintendo does the obvious and only allows their cards for events, but it could be good: the lack of good Trainers does make it seem like TPC finally did what they meant to: make a Pokemon TCG, not "Trainermon".

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cubone

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posted July 28, 2003 03:22 PM      Profile for cubone   Email cubone    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
It's not Good-Bye. We will just be meeting at someone else's house. Our league will continue as long as there are people who want to play. The MT's and WotC were instrumental in Pokemon being what it is today. Thanks Guys for your dedication and commitment. We will support any game that has a following. I am waiting on Neopets. With Wizard's running it, it should be good. We will see. Besides. There's always Magic.

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nick15

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posted July 28, 2003 09:20 PM      Profile for nick15   Email nick15    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
My budget can really only allow for two card games. It used to be Magic and Pokémon, but I Magic fell out of my favor. But when NeoPets and Duel Masters are released, I'll definately be get into them (hey, I gotta support Wizards, I LOVE this company!).

The only constant here though is Pokémon. As much as I'm utterly sick of flips (Gen Con marked my official hatred of "heads I win, tails I lose" matches), I'm still going to stick with the game no matter what. I've spent too much money on it now to quit! [Big Grin]

So this really isn't a good-bye. It's just "and now a word from these sponsors". [Razz]

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Gordon Kane

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posted August 02, 2003 06:57 AM      Profile for Gordon Kane   Email Gordon Kane    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Lizard (and others);

Check out Magi-Nation. The game has been out since GenCon 2000 and is in a current lull - but I had great success converting 14-17 year old Pokemon players that were intimidated by the Magic scene.

Magi-Nation Duel has had a League since June 2002 - and it was designed by the same person who designed the Pokemon League (Jenifer Hunter). Organized play has sanctioned Constructed tournaments with company provided prize cards. There is also State and National ratings and rankings. Currently they produce 2 sets a year, and try to hold 2-3 Storyline tournaments per year (where the results of all the tournaments nationally alter the dominant and weak regions.
Magic has 5 regions, Pokemon has 9, Magi-Nation has 12.
A new base set, Second Order, is due in 2004. With its arrival, the tourney environment is likely to be split into a "Classic" and "Modified" environment.
Magi-Nation really seems to appeal to high school and college aged players - but we had a very competitive 9 year old (with an evil Cald burn deck) with the average upper end being 30-somethings (some parents - some not). I'm a bit of an anomoly in this game being that I'm over 40. The game has attracted converts from Pokemon, Yu-Gi-Oh, Magi, and Legend of the Five Rings.

Check it out - it is a very fair and balanced game (moreso than Yu-Gi-Oh or DragonBall Z) - and there is something for everyone (creature rush, direct damage, stall wall, control, permission) between your use of Magi, creatures, spells, and relics. Also, you don't have to collect resource cards (mana, land, power, energy, etc.). Never a mulligan (redraw due to lack of starting creature), never energy starved (you get between 3 and 9 energy every turn - depends one your magi's energize rate), you can never deck.
And if you want to check out a free online version where people casually play and test decks, check out ccgworkshop.com

[ August 02, 2003, 07:06 AM: Message edited by: Gordon Kane ]

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ScythKing

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posted August 02, 2003 07:28 PM      Profile for ScythKing   Email ScythKing    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
quote:
Originally posted by Gordon Kane:
Lizard (and others);
Check out Magi-Nation.

Yeah I was chatting in line with a guy at Gencon and he showed me his Magi-Nation decks and explained the game somewhat - it did in fact look pretty cool. Unfortunately I never was able to find the booth they were at so I could get the discount decks and boosters. Looks like something I would at least like to dabble in.

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WizPoG_Pop

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posted August 02, 2003 09:28 PM      Profile for WizPoG_Pop   Email WizPoG_Pop    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Gordon:
While it's good to see you posting, if you want to promote a different TCG, please do it in the RTC, not in News, and not by hijacking a topic.

Thanks.

Everyone, let's stick to the subject.

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ukpokemonpro

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posted August 03, 2003 10:38 AM      Profile for ukpokemonpro   Email ukpokemonpro    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
quote:
While it's good to see you posting, if you want to promote a different TCG, please do it in the RTC, not in News, and not by hijacking a topic.
Maybe the same should be said for those talking about Magic, Neopets and Duel Masters?

But then again perhaps we only apply the rules to None WotC/Hasbro games?

Or maybe those that do not pay WotC Hasbro a royalty? Even YuGiOh puts money in Hasbros pockets due to the Licensing of the [Tap] mechanic, and other obvious MtG mechanics in YuGi.

For me the whole topic is wrongly titled anyhow we need to add that it's a LONG GOODBYE TO WOTC/HASBRO not Pokemon in general.

Like I say Pokemon WotC stylee is dead Long Live Pokemon!

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ukpokemonpro

"a meaningless title is just that ... meaningless"

"London Super Battlezone 2003"
quote the judge...

'only joking' on misreported match results: DQ Yep its that serious!


14,000 deck boxes yeah we'll take all of them .... what have I done!

Find the Pokemon League and Tournaments in Kent at:The Gamers Guild

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SD_PokeMom

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posted August 03, 2003 12:25 PM      Profile for SD_PokeMom   Email SD_PokeMom    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
This song sort of expresses my feelings right now: "Seasons of Love", from Rent, by Jonathan Larson...

Five hundred twenty five thousand six hundred minutes,
Five hundred twenty five thousand moments so dear.
Five hundred twenty five thousand six hundred minutes.
How do you measure, measure a year?
In daylights, in sunsets, in midnights, in cups of coffee?
In inches, in miles, in laughter, in strife?
In five hundred twenty five thousand six hundred minutes.
How do you measure a year in the life?
How about love, how about love, how about love?
Measure in love.
Seasons of love, seasons of love.

Five hundred twenty five thousand six hundred minutes,
Five hundred twenty five thousand journeys to plan.
Five hundred twenty five thousand six hundred minutes,
How do you measure the life of a woman or a man?
In truth that she learned or in times that he cried,
In bridges he burned or the way that she died?
It’s time now to sing out, though the story never ends
Let’s celebrate, remember a year in the life of friends.
Remember the love, remember the love, remember the love.
Measure in love.
Seasons of love, seasons of love.


Thank you DMTM, MTM, MTPat, Kierin, Elaine, Damon, Mel...it's been an honor and privilege working with you here on the 'Gym and WizO'ing the chat...and at SDCC, Worlds, the WCSC, and WCSTS. Some of the best (..and a few of the worst [Frown] ) times of my life have been spent here these past two-and-a-half years...but all in all, it's been fun... [cloud9] I've met some wonderful people that I'd not have had the opportunity to meet otherwise, were it not for this game and these forums...and some of those people have become very dear friends indeed.

May the Light of Amida's Infinite Wisdom and Compassion shine upon you all [Smile] ; see everyone over on the next incarnation of the 'Gym, and at the new OP events...

love,
'mom

[ August 03, 2003, 12:30 PM: Message edited by: SD_PokeMom ]

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From: San Diego, CA --location of WCSTS-2001 and West Stadium Challenge 2002 | Registered: Feb 2001  |  IP: Logged
WizPoG_Pop

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posted August 03, 2003 03:11 PM      Profile for WizPoG_Pop   Email WizPoG_Pop    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
quote:
Originally posted by ukpokemonpro:
quote:
While it's good to see you posting, if you want to promote a different TCG, please do it in the RTC, not in News, and not by hijacking a topic.
Maybe the same should be said for those talking about Magic, Neopets and Duel Masters?

But then again perhaps we only apply the rules to None WotC/Hasbro games?

Or maybe those that do not pay WotC Hasbro a royalty? Even YuGiOh puts money in Hasbros pockets due to the Licensing of the [Tap] mechanic, and other obvious MtG mechanics in YuGi.

For me the whole topic is wrongly titled anyhow we need to add that it's a LONG GOODBYE TO WOTC/HASBRO not Pokemon in general.

Like I say Pokemon WotC stylee is dead Long Live Pokemon!

Well, the main difference between those other posts and Gordon's post is that they spend part of their time talking about the end of the WotC era of Pokemon.

Gordon's post reads as an ad for MagiNation.
Maybe that seems like semantics to you, but that's the difference. If he spent part of his post talking about his former association with the game and then went into his "MagiNation is great", that would be fine.

OK?

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