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Topic: Expedition Base Set List and Info
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Soslowpoke
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posted August 06, 2002 10:45 AM
Ok, well there was a big Expedition display at Worlds and here's what I managed to come across...
A set list!
After more than an hour of asking and writing, I managed to get a set list (minus the holos)
1/165 Alakazam
2/165 Ampharos
3/165 Arbok
4/165 Blastoise
5/165 Butterfree
6/165 Charizard
7/165 Clefable
8/165 Cloyster
9/165 Dragonite
10/165 Dugtrio
11/165 Fearow
12/165 Feraligatr
13/165 Gengar
14/165 Golem
15/165 Kingler
16/165 Machamp
17/165 Magby
18/165 Mew
19/165 Mewtwo
20/165 Meganium
21/165 Ninetales
22/165 Pichu
23/165 Pidgeot
24/165 Poliwrath
25/165 Raichu
26/165 Rapidash
27/165 Skarmory
28/165 Typhlosion
29/165 Tyranitar
30/165 Venusaur
31/165 Vileplume
32/165 Weezing
33/165 Alakazam
34/165 Ampharos
35/165 Arbok
36/165 Blastoise
37/165 Blastoise
38/165 Butterfree
39/165 Charizard
40/165 Charizard
41/165 Clefable
42/165 Cloyster
43/165 Dragonite
44/165 Dugtrio
45/165 Fearow
46/165 Feraligatr
47/165 Feraligatr
48/165 Gengar
49/165 Golem
50/165 Kingler
51/165 Machamp
52/165 Magby
53/165 Meganium
54/165 Meganium
55/165 Mew
56/165 Mewtwo
57/165 Ninetales
58/165 Pichu
59/165 Pidgeot
60/165 Poliwrath
61/165 Raichu
62/165 Rapidash
63/165 Skarmory
64/165 Typhlosion
65/165 Typhlosion
66/165 Tyranitar
67/165 Venusaur
68/165 Venusaur
69/165 Vileplume
70/165 Weezing
71/165 Bayleef
72/165 Chansey
73/165 Charmeleon
74/165 Croconaw
75/165 Dragonair
76/165 Electabuzz
77/165 Flaafy
78/165 Gloom
79/165 Graveler
80/165 Haunter
81/165 Hitmonlee
82/165 Ivysaur
83/165 Jynx
84/165 Kadabra
85/165 Machoke
86/165 Magmar
87/165 Metapod
88/165 Pidgeotto
89/165 Poliwhirl
90/165 Pupitar
91/165 Quilava
92/165 Wartortle
93/165 Abra
94/165 Bulbasaur
95/165 Bulbasaur
96/165 Caterpie
97/165 Charmander
98/165 Charmander
99/165 Chikorita
100/165 Chikorita
101/165 Clefairy
102/165 Corsola
103/165 Cubone
104/165 Cyndaquil
105/165 Cyndaquil
106/165 Diglett
107/165 Dratini
108/165 Ekans
109/165 Gastly
110/165 Geodude
111/165 Goldeen
112/165 Hoppip
113/165 Houndour
114/165 Koffing
115/165 Krabby
116/165 Larvitar
117/165 Machop
118/165 Magikarp
119/165 Mareep
120/165 Marill
121/165 Meowth
122/165 Oddish
123/165 Pidgey
124/165 Pikachu
125/165 Poliwag
126/165 Ponyta
127/165 Qwilfish
128/165 Rattata
129/165 Shellder
130/165 Spearow
131/165 Squirtle
132/165 Squirtle
133/165 Tauros
134/165 Totodile
135/165 Totodile
136/165 Vulpix
137/165 Bill's Maintenance
138/165 Copycat
139/165 Dual Ball
140/165 Energy Removal 2
141/165 Energy Restore
142/165 Mary's Impulse
143/165 Master Ball
144/165 Multitechnical Machine01
145/165 Pokemon Nurse
146/165 Pokemon Reverse
147/165 Power Charge
148/165 Professor Elm's Training Method
149/165 Professor Oak's Research
150/165 Strength Charm
151/165 Super Scoop Up
152/165 Warp Point
153/165 Energy Search
154/165 Full Heal
155/165 MooMoo Milk
156/165 Potion
157/165 Switch
158/165 Darkness Energy
159/165 Metal Energy
160/165 Fighting Energy
161/165 Fire Energy
162/165 Grass Energy
163/165 Lightning Energy
164/165 Psychic Energy
165/165 Water Energy
So the set is 165 cards total with a foil parallel of each card in the set. The foil is like the Japanese Southern Islands refractor holos.
The Set is known as Expedition Base Set. The WOTC reps at the display told me info about upcoming card-e sets but its too early to tell about anything yet.
Boosters will consist of 9 cards:
1 Rare
1 Reverse Foil
2 Uncommons
5 Uncommons
Since the dot-code technology costs more to produce, Wizards decided to cut 2 cards from the boosters so that they didnt need to raise the booster price. (Theme decks stay the same though)
There will be 2 Theme decks:
Echo
(Psychic & Colorless)
Features Alakazam on the front
and
Electric Garden
(Lightning & Grass)
Features Vileplume on the front
Each deck contains 60 cards + 1 Random Reverse holo
The back of the decks state that there are 3 Rares in each deck. (But they will be non foils)
Boosters:
Boosters will be 9 cards and they feature Blastoise, Charizard, Venusaur, and I think Feraligatr on them. The art for the packaging is done by the Pokemon Art director and everything's orange. Its really neat.
The set itself has 70 rares (32 foil, 38 nonfoil)
There will be Basic Energy and Reprints of Darkness and Metal Energy. (both non holo)
The supporter rule is in use in this set. It reads:
You may only play 1 Supporter each turn. If you play this card, put it next to your Active Pokemon and discard it at the end of your turn.
or something like that...
One card, Power Charge has the same exact art and wording as Energy charge- but with a different name! That means you can have 4 of each of those suckers in your deck!
Pokemon Powers are now broken up into Poke-Powers and Poke-Bodies.
Reader Info:
The Card-e Reader is due in September. Only like 300,000 or something like that will be shipped then and then more will come in December.
The Reader will come with:
Reader
Machop
Machoke
Machamp
1 Animal Crossing card
1 Kirby Card
and umm I think thats all the info I gots.
If you have any questions about what the cards do, I'll try to answer. Sorry I couldn't write up a whole spoiler- was too tired.
Oh and starting with the 1st Card-e Promo, they'll be numbered starting with 1 again like there was in Japan.
~soslow
EDIT: How to tell the difference between Reverse Holofoil holos and reverse holofoil non holos...
Reverse Holofoil Holos will not only have the higher number, but the Blue E on the bottom left corner will be white instead of blue.
Its hard to see in some of the scans...
Also, where is the Energy in this set??
[ September 02, 2002, 10:11 AM: Message edited by: Soslowpoke ]
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posted August 06, 2002 11:42 AM
Were the Metal and Darkness energies in the display Rare?
Were either of them holo?
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posted August 06, 2002 12:30 PM
Scyther_trainer:
Were the Metal and Darkness energies in the display Rare?
Yup. They changed rarity of it to rare. I'm wondering what rare got switched to uncommon to replace it....
Were either of them holo?
Nope... the ones in the display case were pre-production examples. They were uncut and didn't even have backs on them.
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posted August 06, 2002 12:53 PM
Do you know if the card backs will stay the same, or are they even sure yet?
Does the Card Reader have a suggested retail price yet?
Which trainers out of that list are supporters?
Thanks in advance for the help.
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posted August 06, 2002 01:28 PM
BronzeGrowlithe:
Do you know if the card backs will stay the same, or are they even sure yet?
Nope, they'll have the same backs. I don't think Wizards would ever do something idiotic like changing the card backs...
The other two questions I have no answer for.
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BronzeGrowlithe
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posted August 06, 2002 02:32 PM
quote:
Originally posted by nick15:
BronzeGrowlithe:
Do you know if the card backs will stay the same, or are they even sure yet?
Nope, they'll have the same backs. I don't think Wizards would ever do something idiotic like changing the card backs...
Whew! ^_^' Thanks. I didn't think they would, but you know what they say about assumptions...
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posted August 06, 2002 02:47 PM
If I remember correctly I heard rumors of a suggested retail price of $49.99.
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posted August 06, 2002 02:49 PM
Anyone got pics of the cards?
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posted August 06, 2002 02:52 PM
165 reverse holos - minimum 5 boxes to complete the set. Why is that? Either - let's make collectors to spend more so that the game survives, or - let's get everyone busy for the next six months when E-2 (maybe) comes out. Any other thoughts?
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posted August 06, 2002 03:02 PM
uhh, no one is forcing you to buy. 165 cards is not much. in magic and LotR sets are around 360 and smaller around 120...
if you dont wanna buy alot dont collect =/
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posted August 06, 2002 03:09 PM
Nick: HSSSS! Let me answer questions! =\
The Darkness and Metal Energy will both be nonfoils.
SRP for the reader is $34.99 I believe...
The Supporters are (in no particular order):
137/165 Bill's Maintenance
138/165 Copycat
142/165 Mary's Impulse
145/165 Pokemon Nurse
148/165 Professor Elm's Training Method
149/165 Professor Oak's Research
Strength Charm is a Pokemon Tool, and Multitechnical Machine01 is a Technical Machine.
Energy Removal2 is just ER with a coin flip and Pokemon Reverse is Gust of Wind with a coin flip.
If you think this set is big and will take forever to collect, wait till you see how big the next set will be...
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posted August 06, 2002 03:45 PM
If the theme decks are correct, that means we get the super-evil vileplume in the the theme deck. That means I can build my lady vile deck.
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posted August 06, 2002 10:04 PM
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Pokemon Powers are now broken up into Poke-Powers and Poke-Bodies.
What does that mean?
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posted August 06, 2002 10:34 PM
Poke-Bodies are derrived from Pokemon Powers. They are Pokemon Powers that have effects on the Pokemon that have that Power. So if Jungle Mr.Mime were to be in Expedition, its Pokemon Power Would be a Poke-Bodie. Pokemon Powers that are more optional like Gengar's Curse are Poke-Powers. The big difference between Poke-Powers and Poke-Bodies are that Poke-Powers stop working when the Pokemon with them are affected by a Special Condition while Poke-Bodies are always on.
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posted August 06, 2002 10:51 PM
So Water Energy and Stuff will also be avaible in Reversed Foil ? And how do the reverse foils look like ? Like the Promo's Entei and stuff or just the crappy legendary's =\
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posted August 07, 2002 12:33 AM
So a Pokemon Power and Poke-Power are the same thing? Muk can shut them both down etc?
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posted August 07, 2002 01:10 AM
70 rares??? No point in selling this set in boosters, a box will be minimum for everyone... ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
If you want to get all cards you'll need at least 2 boxes even if you're devil of a trader, more likely 4 boxes will be the minimum as you may actually want to have two or more of some of the cards.
As for the reverse foils, if you REALLY want to get all of them, then just go ahead and buy a case... The question is why though, they're really awful to play with ("Aaargh, I'm blind, I can't see").
Is it still 36 boosters in a box? (in that case the new boxes will be slightly smaller).
At least one of the Japanese e-cards (promo Celebi?) has an extra attack that ONLY shows up when you drag it through the card-reader. Any info if there are cards like this in the Wizards set? If so, can you use that "hidden" attack in tournaments, and if so, do you need to have the card-reader??? ![[Dubious]](graemlins/dubious.gif) I sincerely hope that Wizards haven't included any cards with "hidden" attacks in the set, it could give unfair advantage to those who spend the extra $$$ on the card reader (I won't)!
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posted August 07, 2002 08:22 AM
Only $50 for an E-Reader?! Shoot, I'm getting one when it first comes out..... Time to start saving my money! ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif) !^_^!
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posted August 07, 2002 09:14 AM
How elite this set will be! I can't wait for the Professor Oak's Research Supporter card to come out. Too bad it doesn't discard. ![[Embarrassed]](redface.gif) ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
Anyway, does Muk turn off all 'Pokémon Powers/Bodies'? Kind of confusing I think.
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posted August 07, 2002 09:39 AM
Question: Did they have any of the e-cards at worlds to see?
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posted August 07, 2002 10:07 AM
So Water Energy and Stuff will also be avaible in Reversed Foil ? And how do the reverse foils look like ? Like the Promo's Entei and stuff or just the crappy legendary's =\
Well Justin Ziran told me that there are 165 reverse foils in the set so I assume that includes Energy.
The reverse foils are like the Japanese Southern Islands cards. Or like the Magic foils as people have been telling me.
The reverse foils will not have barcodes on them since the foil messes it up.
So a Pokemon Power and Poke-Power are the same thing? Muk can shut them both down etc?
I don't know, I forgot to ask about that one, I'll look into it though.
70 rares??? No point in selling this set in boosters, a box will be minimum for everyone...
Heh, I made a mistake- 72 rares :-D
The reverse foils are easier to read though..
Is it still 36 boosters in a box? (in that case the new boxes will be slightly smaller).
Yes, there are still 36 boosters in a box. The boxes are just a bit smaller now.
At least one of the Japanese e-cards (promo Celebi?) has an extra attack that ONLY shows up when you drag it through the card-reader. Any info if there are cards like this in the Wizards set? If so, can you use that "hidden" attack in tournaments, and if so, do you need to have the card-reader??? I sincerely hope that Wizards haven't included any cards with "hidden" attacks in the set, it could give unfair advantage to those who spend the extra $$$ on the card reader (I won't)!
Well due to the number of readers that will be available in September (200,000 or something) I would definately say they will not be doing that.
As for the Wizards's set, they're still in the development stage for that set and haven't decided whether or not that set will be E Compatible.
Question: Did they have any of the e-cards at worlds to see?
Yes they did. They had about 100 of the e-cards (didn't have any of the regular holofoils, basic energy, and were missing quite a few uncommons)
They also had the 2 theme decks and a booster display on display, along with the reader.
When the nintendo reps had spare time, they took some of the cards on display and put them through the reader and found some really odd games (Including a Jynx game that has no controls @_@)
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posted August 07, 2002 10:14 AM
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Originally posted by ilc:
Anyone got pics of the cards?
I posted some pics of the set at my webpage. I think Pokemon Zeo also has a few pics. Venusaur looks like trouble in this set unless they change it.
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posted August 07, 2002 10:53 AM
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I posted some pics of the set at my webpage.
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