posted May 17, 2002 12:10 AM              

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I'm sure there are fake profs in Europe (I'll not give names ), like there are fake profs in the USA.
The difference is that the MT are in the USA. It's very easy for them to 'detect' the cheaters, but the situation is unfortunately not the same in Europe.

OK, some people have been helped, and that's bad BUT Professors did help them (logical, no ?), and I find that worse.
Not only people who are not capable to take the test have cheated, but people who were already Profs have done the same by helping them. The first category will be detected easily, but what about the second one ?

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I so totally agree with you. Because these cheaters is hard to detect and they are probably very much aware of it. That is why I get so mad and frustrated about this.

And that is also why I think that something really needs to be done. Making another IRL test won't catch the "helpers" but I think we should really try to figure out a way to catch those because they are the worst possible ones in this community. AND it's ruining the reputation of Team Europe when nothing is done to get rid of these people.(still no names.... )

Team Europe should stand for good players and responsible Professors that are rolemodels for other players in Europe. Not as a bunch of questionable possible cheaters.....

/Dumbledore

[ May 17, 2002, 11:05 AM: Message edited by: Dumbledore ]

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posted May 17, 2002 02:04 PM              

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Originally posted by yoshi1001:


Now, there is one possible remedy. If our title is supposed to reflect more than just game-playing skill, maybe our competitions should.

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posted May 17, 2002 02:44 PM               

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In the world of the Pokémon TCG, there are two types of participants. There are the young trainers that spend their time learning and mastering the art of being a Pokémon trainer, and there are various mentors, such as Nurses, Police, and Professors.

This second group is made up of people who have already mastered the game-play aspect of training Pokémon and who now work toward sharing their knowledge and experiences with younger trainers. This group of people also helps to maintain the overall structure of the Pokémon world. That is the kind of activity that the Pokémon Professor program is designed to emulate and reward.

There are three main attributes of a good Pokémon Professor that this program will attempt to train and reward: knowledge, participation, and skill.

Knowledge, for the purposes of the Pokémon Professor program, is defined as knowing how to play the Pokémon TCG, knowing how to judge the Pokémon TCG, and knowing the Pokémon tournament rules. Knowledge is the foundation on which being a Pokémon Professor and being a good judge are built. Without it, you cannot effectively teach younger players the finer aspects of the game, and, in turn, those younger players will not learn the game as well as they should.

Participation, for the purposes of the Pokémon Professor program, is defined as active nonplaying involvement with the Pokémon TCG community. Your participation is measured by how much you work at the local- or premier-tournament level as a judge or tournament organizer or by whether or not you submit playtesting reports and website feedback. Without your participation, the Pokémon TCG Leagues and tournaments will dry up and will not be as productive as they could be with your help.

Skill, for the purposes of the Pokémon Professor program, is defined as game-play skill, as well as skill at handling people, keeping tournaments fun and fair, and aiding in Pokémon research. Professors are rewarded for their skills through exclusive Professor-only events, the Professor Championship, and the Wizards Professor Challenge, as well as the opportunity to participate in playtesting as needed.

It is through the recognition and training of these three characteristics that you can become a Pokémon Professor. The Pokémon community needs your skills, maturity, and prowess to continue on into the future. Thank you, in advance, for your help.

Michael Gills (Master Trainer Mike)
Pokémon Professor Program Administrator

Pokemon Professor Program - Wizards website

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I'm sorry, but when I read that, and when I try to understand which people are concerned by the program, I do not see people who just want to find a way to play in big tournaments, people who need help to prove the knowledge they don't have.
Playing in special tournaments is a reward (Professors are rewarded for their skills through exclusive Professor-only events, the Professor Championship, and the Wizards Professor Challenge).

Sorry TimPhlosion, but when I read your post, I don't think you are in the category of people concerned by the Program.

I personally know 'Professors' who don't know the rules, who are absolutely not concerned in Professor activities (except to show them at big events ), who are bad players, who have never helped anybody, ...
But I also know Professors who are really involved in the Program, who try to fulfill the requirements mentioned in MTM's description of a Professor.

There has been talking about different levels of Professors (like Master Profs). When I see what's happening now, I think that, in the future, different Levels of Profs will have to be introduced, with 'rewards' according to the levels.

The question here is not only the honesty of some of the Professors, but also the quality and reputation of the Professor Program itself.

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posted May 17, 2002 06:07 PM               

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Cut Up Post Originally posted by TimPhlosion:
...I just want to be able to play in major tournaments. If the 15+ division was re- introduced, and there were main events at major tournaments for the 15+... ...This is a fun game, and I want to play it, not judge it... ...Pokemon is just a fun thing I enjoy doing in my spare time. So please realize that for some people, there are more important things in life than being a leader in the game of pokemon, and that pokemon is meant to be a fun thing, not a commitment.

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