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dkates
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posted November 10, 2002 02:30 PM      Profile for dkates      Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
WotC recommends using 4-2-1 pokemon in each evolution chain, but i've found that, in many cases, 3-2-1 is just as effective. comments?

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posted November 10, 2002 02:38 PM      Profile for Maverick Hunter Zero   Email Maverick Hunter Zero    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
...Both are actually fairly bad, depending on what Pokemon you're using, I'd think that 3/3/3, 4/3/3, 4/4/3, or 4/4/4 would be much better.

Running just ONE of a stage 2 is a bad idea, as it'll be near impossible to get that last evo. There's always the chance it could be in your prizes, it could be knocked out, and you'd be dead in the water...

So your statement that 3/2/1 is just as good as 4/2/1 is more or less true, they're both equally bad ideas.

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posted November 10, 2002 07:09 PM      Profile for MrGrass   Email MrGrass    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
They're not that bad if the pokemon compliment each other well. Usually, though, it's tough to run multiple Stage 2's in one deck. I have a deck that runs 3 different stage 2's. The one's I bring into play depend on the situation and my opponent's deck. Since I don't want to get overrun with the wrong evos, I run closer to the WOTC guide for evolution.

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posted November 11, 2002 12:20 AM      Profile for Onix95      Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
I would say running 2 stage 2 Pokemon in a deck is sufficient enough, but if its a deck that requires you to get it, then 3 or even 4 should do it. In a Rain Dance deck, you'd run 3 or 4 Blastoise, but in a Charizard deck, you may run only 2. 1 isn't enough, unless the deck doesn't center around that specific stage 2, like if the deck had Misty's Poliwhirl and Blastoise, and you wanted to put one Misty's Poliwrath just to make things interesting. (This is only my opinion though)

As for ratios, I say that for every evolution, you have 2 of its previous form, but its okay if you have 2 evos and 3 previous as in: 1:2:3 or 2:3:4. I use the 2:3:4 or 3:4 ratio in a majority of my decks, since at least one of the previous evos of a card I want to play winds up in the dicard or prizes anyway.

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posted November 11, 2002 07:13 PM      Profile for dkates      Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
true, and when the stage 2 is more importan, i often use 4:3:2.

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posted November 11, 2002 07:20 PM      Profile for PokePop   Email PokePop    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
The 4:2:1 ratio is only recommended for beginners.
If you want dependability, you need at least 3 of a given card, or 2 and other ways to get that card out of your deck.

[ November 11, 2002, 08:41 PM: Message edited by: PokePop ]

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posted November 12, 2002 11:36 AM      Profile for The Dark Llama   Email The Dark Llama    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
True, all the good Stage 2's are usually hard to get ONe of, let alone 4, but needless to say, 4/4/4 is the best bet. Besides that, running 4 Traders with it would really improve your chances of getting it.

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posted November 12, 2002 01:04 PM      Profile for John Kulp   Email John Kulp    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Well I find 3-2-1 quite effective with me. Also it's a matter of space(for Basics and Trainers). I also find extra Stage 2 cards is kinda pushing it. As for Stage 1,I go 2-1. Nighty Garbage Run can pick up the evos for a second chance. But what works for one person won't work with another. I know where I speak.

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posted November 12, 2002 02:08 PM      Profile for WizPoG_Pop   Email WizPoG_Pop    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
I don't know....

I can't tell you how many times I've had two copies of a card sitting in the Prizes and I've been lucky to have that third copy in the deck as my sole chance of playing the card in the early stages of the game. I've even had 3 copies of a card in the prizes.
Why set yourself up for that to happen to you with only one of a critical card in your deck?

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posted November 12, 2002 02:16 PM      Profile for Squirtle007   Email Squirtle007    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
In decks with stage 2s (and i've played very few) I like using either 4-3-2 with 1 Breeder, 4-4-3 (with 2 breeders) or 3-2-2 (with 2 breeders)

Its all a matter of how many chains you have and how dependant you are in that stage 2(ex. I run 3 toise's in a raindance deck w at least 2 breeders)

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posted November 14, 2002 03:56 PM      Profile for peanutbutter6289   Email peanutbutter6289    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
u know... i just thought of somthing [Big Grin] . Why not play the "Here comes team rocket" card to prevent u from struggling to find cards stuck in ur prizes. or just some fossil mankey with the pokemon power: peek. just an idea.. [Roll Eyes]

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posted November 15, 2002 04:49 PM      Profile for dkates      Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Thank you everybody. Now, would a moderator please close this topic?

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