Author Topic: evolution ratios dkates Member Member # 113463 posted November 10, 2002 02:30 PM            WotC recommends using 4-2-1 pokemon in each evolution chain, but i've found that, in many cases, 3-2-1 is just as effective. comments? -------------------- Every time I think I can't say anything stupider, I prove myself wrong. Maybe I should just stop thinking. From: Houston, TX | Registered: Nov 2002  |  IP: Logged Maverick Hunter Zero Member # 6223 posted November 10, 2002 02:38 PM             ...Both are actually fairly bad, depending on what Pokemon you're using, I'd think that 3/3/3, 4/3/3, 4/4/3, or 4/4/4 would be much better. Running just ONE of a stage 2 is a bad idea, as it'll be near impossible to get that last evo. There's always the chance it could be in your prizes, it could be knocked out, and you'd be dead in the water... So your statement that 3/2/1 is just as good as 4/2/1 is more or less true, they're both equally bad ideas. -------------------- http://www.mhzs-lair.com AIM: MasterHunterZero [email protected] http://mhz.deviantart.com It's not cowardly to run. It's futile. kachu Pika piii Kaa pi pikachu? From: The strange, frightening world known as "SoCali" | Registered: Mar 2001  |  IP: Logged MrGrass Member # 166 posted November 10, 2002 07:09 PM             They're not that bad if the pokemon compliment each other well. Usually, though, it's tough to run multiple Stage 2's in one deck. I have a deck that runs 3 different stage 2's. The one's I bring into play depend on the situation and my opponent's deck. Since I don't want to get overrun with the wrong evos, I run closer to the WOTC guide for evolution. -------------------- "They possess armor that explodes on impact." He-Man action figure commercial "This is so good it just has to be fattening." Stewy from The Family Guy AIM: SpectreX0 Yahoo: Shiny_Psyduck From: A WOTC Store in Pennsylvania | Registered: Feb 2001  |  IP: Logged Onix95 Member # 103241 posted November 11, 2002 12:20 AM            I would say running 2 stage 2 Pokemon in a deck is sufficient enough, but if its a deck that requires you to get it, then 3 or even 4 should do it. In a Rain Dance deck, you'd run 3 or 4 Blastoise, but in a Charizard deck, you may run only 2. 1 isn't enough, unless the deck doesn't center around that specific stage 2, like if the deck had Misty's Poliwhirl and Blastoise, and you wanted to put one Misty's Poliwrath just to make things interesting. (This is only my opinion though) As for ratios, I say that for every evolution, you have 2 of its previous form, but its okay if you have 2 evos and 3 previous as in: 1:2:3 or 2:3:4. I use the 2:3:4 or 3:4 ratio in a majority of my decks, since at least one of the previous evos of a card I want to play winds up in the dicard or prizes anyway. From: Honolulu, Hawaii | Registered: Aug 2002  |  IP: Logged dkates Member Member # 113463 posted November 11, 2002 07:13 PM            true, and when the stage 2 is more importan, i often use 4:3:2. -------------------- Every time I think I can't say anything stupider, I prove myself wrong. Maybe I should just stop thinking. From: Houston, TX | Registered: Nov 2002  |  IP: Logged PokePop Member # 8 posted November 11, 2002 07:20 PM             The 4:2:1 ratio is only recommended for beginners. If you want dependability, you need at least 3 of a given card, or 2 and other ways to get that card out of your deck. [ November 11, 2002, 08:41 PM: Message edited by: PokePop ] -------------------- "This kind of makes you miss the compendium..." - Martin Moreno The Compendium: http://pkcompendium.hypermart.net Registered: Feb 2001  |  IP: Logged The Dark Llama Member Member # 75434 posted November 12, 2002 11:36 AM             True, all the good Stage 2's are usually hard to get ONe of, let alone 4, but needless to say, 4/4/4 is the best bet. Besides that, running 4 Traders with it would really improve your chances of getting it. -------------------- Best Decks Kurai Tsuki no Kokoro Dark Ampharos/Dark Espeon 31-7 Kage Ha! Dark Scizor 8-0 Elm, Oak, Cleffa and Copycat are archetypes. YGO Deck: Yukai na Shi ni yotte Ryu Pleasant Death by way of Dragon 25-8 My have/want list One Sentence Add-On! From: San Diego | Registered: Apr 2002  |  IP: Logged John Kulp Member Member # 64111 posted November 12, 2002 01:04 PM             Well I find 3-2-1 quite effective with me. Also it's a matter of space(for Basics and Trainers). I also find extra Stage 2 cards is kinda pushing it. As for Stage 1,I go 2-1. Nighty Garbage Run can pick up the evos for a second chance. But what works for one person won't work with another. I know where I speak. -------------------- "And how dare they act like we're criminals? They should welcome Team Rocket." -James(Epi 2) "May the death of the world be upon each and every one of you." -Ezekial Rage "Ah,excellent! Feel the rage!" -Professor Nanba(Epi 224) From: Pittsburgh,PA | Registered: Feb 2002  |  IP: Logged WizPoG_Pop Member # 113762 posted November 12, 2002 02:08 PM             I don't know.... I can't tell you how many times I've had two copies of a card sitting in the Prizes and I've been lucky to have that third copy in the deck as my sole chance of playing the card in the early stages of the game. I've even had 3 copies of a card in the prizes. Why set yourself up for that to happen to you with only one of a critical card in your deck? Registered: Nov 2002  |  IP: Logged Squirtle007 Member Member # 74451 posted November 12, 2002 02:16 PM             In decks with stage 2s (and i've played very few) I like using either 4-3-2 with 1 Breeder, 4-4-3 (with 2 breeders) or 3-2-2 (with 2 breeders) Its all a matter of how many chains you have and how dependant you are in that stage 2(ex. I run 3 toise's in a raindance deck w at least 2 breeders) From: VA | Registered: Apr 2002  |  IP: Logged peanutbutter6289 Member Member # 112806 posted November 14, 2002 03:56 PM             u know... i just thought of somthing . Why not play the "Here comes team rocket" card to prevent u from struggling to find cards stuck in ur prizes. or just some fossil mankey with the pokemon power: peek. just an idea.. -------------------- marowak rulz!!!! Registered: Nov 2002  |  IP: Logged dkates Member Member # 113463 posted November 15, 2002 04:49 PM            Thank you everybody. Now, would a moderator please close this topic? -------------------- Every time I think I can't say anything stupider, I prove myself wrong. Maybe I should just stop thinking. From: Houston, TX | Registered: Nov 2002  |  IP: Logged

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