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BANGINBOX
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posted February 16, 2003 05:05 PM
if i have a light dragonite active and i attach a boost energy to an evolved pokemon on the bench.
what happens to the energy at the end of the turn?
what happens when dragonite is no longer active?
if someone could post the text of the two cards for me you would see where the confusion is.
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PsycoDad
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posted February 16, 2003 06:00 PM
If the active Light Dragonite is not effect by a special condition, a muk(lc)is not in play, the opponents does not have an active magby that sputtered the turn before and is still active, and light dragonite stays active at the end of your turn, the nrg stays on the benched evoloved poke. I played Light Dragonite at the MI SBZ. Several times I attached a boost to a benched evolved poke. It allows you to:
1) build another light dragonite
2) build a back up line on the bench
3) run less nrg in your deck
This works well with alot of the new aq pokes that have an attack that has an attack with at least 2 colorless nrg requirement.
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[ February 16, 2003, 06:04 PM: Message edited by: PsycoDad ]
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posted February 16, 2003 09:04 PM
go Exeggutetor, Jungle set/Legendary. Big Eggasploion. boom
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old man
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posted February 17, 2003 03:45 AM
Good question & one that I have doubts on myself as to what happens to the Boost energy on the bench.
Just by looking at the L Dragonite's wording it would appear that the energy would stay on, in the above scenario.
However, it could also be argued that L Dragonite is referring to itself & the opponents so a boost energy on a bench would not work. Part of this can be explained by L Dragonite's wording again. IF , like Dark Gengar, it was worded, "while in play" then it would cover everything.
I myself, tend to feel that in the above scenario, that it would work, just like PsycoDad explains it. This ought to be answered in a chat just for clarity & get a definite answer.
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PsycoDad
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posted February 17, 2003 04:13 AM
Hi Old Man
This was all discussed on the last 2 or 3 chats. I will find the answers when I get the time.
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PsycoDad
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posted February 17, 2003 04:30 AM
Here's what I found. No mention of the benched pokes. asked the ead judge before the SBZ and I was told that I could attach to a benched poke as long as Light Drgonite met the conditions in my first post above.
darkmt_mike presents the speaker with question #988 from daytongl:
Light Dragonite and Boost Energy - if I retreat my Light Dragonite that has a Boost Energy attached, and another Light Dragonite does not come up, do I have to discard the Boost Energy?
darkmt_mike says, "NO. NO. A thousand times no."
darkmt_mike grins evilly.
master_trainer_mike says, "The discard effect ONLY triggers on the turn you attach it from your hand. If it is still in play (because of Miraculous Wind) fater that first turn."
master_trainer_mike says, "that effects doesn't trigger again."
master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #1006 from calathon:
Re Lt Dragonite retreating: Boost would be discarded if it were the turn it was attached, yes?
master_trainer_mike says, "Yes."
master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #898 from dugtrio_1951:
RE #879 What are you talking about with Warp Energy? I was wondering if you can use BOOST Energy to retreat with. (It says you can't on the card, but does that effect/rule/whatever turn off from Light Dragonite)?
master_trainer_mike says, "Warp...Boost....after a while they all look the same."
master_trainer_mike says, "If you have already assumed that the Boost energy is not discarded because of Light Dragonite's Pokemon Power, then the answer is the same."
master_trainer_mike says, "All text on a Special Energy card is ignored under that Pokemon Power so yes, you could discard it to Retreat it."
master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #769 from enik_the_sleestak:
can you please explain the light dragonite w/ boost energy just to clarify how it should be played (when , if at all, do you discard boost energy as the card text reads)?
master_trainer_pat says, "You would discard the Boost only at the end of the turn it was attched during. If it's not discarded then, it won't be discarded."
master_trainer_mike says, "This is all assuming Light Dragonite is active and its Pokemon Power is working when you attach the boost energy of course."
master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #779 from risingdragons:
If I attached a boost energy on my Light Dragonite last turn, and my opponent somehow disabled Dragonite's power, does the energy get discarded (discard boost energy on the turn it was played,which it isn't)?
master_trainer_pat says, "No."
master_trainer_pat shakes her/his head.
master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #787 from mt_icecold:
If I have a Light dragonite active and attach a boost energy, if dragonite's power becomes de-activated or he is benched(via trainer or victrebell) does the boost energy get discarded?
master_trainer_pat says, "Only that turn in which the Boost was attached."
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old man
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posted February 17, 2003 04:35 AM
Yes I've read all the chats, but this is a different scenario. No one has asked about attaching a boost to a benched pokemon while the "good" L Dragonite is active. That's why I think it needs to be asked.
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BJJ763
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posted February 17, 2003 05:51 AM
Well MTM said it all right here (bolded for emphasis):
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master_trainer_mike says, "All text on a Special Energy card is ignored under that Pokemon Power so yes, you could discard it to Retreat it."
So as long as Light Dragonite is Active and its Power is working, you can attach Boost energy to a Benched Pokémon and not have to discard it at the end of your turn. A great way to get another Light Dragonite powered up.
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Feraligatr14
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posted February 21, 2003 08:39 AM
Very interesting ruling considering the ruling currently in the Master Rules Document for Miracle Energy states the following:
Q. If I attach a Miracle Energy to an Active Light Dragonite, is it still discarded at the end of the turn? A. No it is not. As soon as the Miraculous Wind power ends though, then the Miracle Energy is discarded. This is true regardless of where the Miracle Energy is attached.
Q. If you attached a Miracle Energy to Light Dragonite while he is active would it provde a single colorless and would you still have to discard it at the end of your turn? A. No, it would provide 2 colorless (as the top of the card shows 2 energy symbols, like DCE). Then you would have to discard it. The discarding is not an effect on the card, it is a requirement; Miraculous Wind does not prevent that from happening. (Mar 7, 2002 WotC Chat)
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posted February 21, 2003 12:35 PM
'Gatr14: Read the sentences on both Miracle Energy and Boost Energy about discarding. You will find that Miracle Energy talks about the end of the turn, any turn, while Boost only talks about the end of the turn it was attached. Makes all the difference.
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