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Topic: Alakazam (e-exp) VS farfetch'd (n-rev) and lt.surge rattata
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Omega Ant
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posted June 15, 2003 12:21 PM
alakazam's power :
Psymimic Once during your turn, instead of Alakazam's normal attack, you may choose 1 of your opponent's Pokיmon's attacks. Alakazam copies that attack including its Energy costs and anything else required in order to use that attack, such as discarding Energy cards. (No matter what type that Pokיmon is, Alakazam's type is still Psychic.) This power can't be used if Alakazam is affected by a Special Condition.
farfetch'd's leek jab : ![[White Mana]](../tcg/graemlins/white_mana.gif) (base damage :40)
This attack can't be used during your next turn .
rattata's attacks :
Focus Energy During your next turn, Lt. Surge's Rattata's Quick Attack's base damage is doubled.
Quick Attack Flip a coin. If heads, this attack does 10 damage plus 20 more damage; if tails, this attack does 10 damage. 10+
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If I use alakazam's power to copy farfetch'd's leek jab attack and the opponent has another farfetch'd .
Can I use alakazam's power to copy leek jab from the 2nd farfetch'd ? ( I'm aware of the fact that it is Alakazam that needs to be benched/evolved in order to end the effect but is the effect apply only on the attack copied from that specific pokemon ? )
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I have Alakazam as my active pokemon and my opponent has 2 lt.surge rattata in play and 1 pikachu (base set, has an attack called gnaw with base damage of 10 ).
I used alakazam psymimic to use focus energy from one of the lt.surge's rattata .
What if I used psmimic to copy the gnaw attack from either the other rattata or from pikachu . Will the base damage will be doubled (40 using rattata's , 20 using Pikachu's )?
The master rules document says that when having a ditto that attacks focus energy (rattata's) and the opponent switches to pikachu and ditto attacks gnaw , it will do double damage (20) .
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Carrington388
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posted June 15, 2003 12:49 PM
You're correct on number 2. It's called the self-referencing rule. In this scenario, Focus Energy is applied to Alakazam (not Lt. Surge's Ratatta), and the damage next turn is doubled (it doesn't state a specific attack). You could Gnaw for 20 or even Leek Jab for 80.
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yoshi1001
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posted June 15, 2003 12:56 PM
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If I use alakazam's power to copy farfetch'd's leek jab attack and the opponent has another farfetch'd .
Can I use alakazam's power to copy leek jab from the 2nd farfetch'd ? ( I'm aware of the fact that it is Alakazam that needs to be benched/evolved in order to end the effect but is the effect apply only on the attack copied from that specific pokemon ? )
I would say that you can't use the attack, since you are copying the same attack, albeit on another Pokemon. Here's a ruling on a similar scenario:
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Q. If I have one Sabrina's Alakazam active and another on my bench, can I use Psylink to use the benched one's Mega Burn attack on the turn after I used the active one's Mega Burn attack?
A. Nope, the effect on your Active Sabrina's Alakazam states you cannot use ANY attack called Mega Burn next turn. Of course, if you bench or devolve your Active that effect is gone.(Oct 19, 2000 WotC Chat, Q43; Aug 9, 2001 WotC Chat, Q232)
[ June 15, 2003, 01:03 PM: Message edited by: yoshi1001 ]
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Omega Ant
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posted June 16, 2003 02:04 AM
Thank you yoshi and carrington . ![[Smile]](../tcg/smile.gif)
Can I really do 80 with leek jab after using rattata's focus energy . the attack says that the attack called "gnaw" will have its base damage doubled (so I don't think so).
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WizPog_BJJ
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posted June 16, 2003 04:19 AM
Replace "Lt. Surge's Rattata" with "Alakazam" and you will see that only Alakazam's Gnaw's Base damage would be doubled next turn (or Alakazam's Quick Attack's Base damage would be doubled, depending upon which Lt. Surge's Rattata was being Psymimicked).
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WizPoG_Pop
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posted June 16, 2003 05:17 AM
Right. You replace the Pokemon's name with "this Pokemon".
There is no self-referencing rule about replacing the attacks name with "this attack" or anything like that. It has to have the right attack name, and in the case of Jungle Scyther's Sword Dance, the Slash has to have the correct base damage, since that is referenced in the attack as well.
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dkates
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posted June 16, 2003 09:20 AM
Speaking of Jungle Scyther, I have a question. If Jungle Scyther uses Swords Dance, then evolves to Dark Scizor (which has an identical Slash attack), would Dark Scizor's Slash do 60 or 30 for that turn? In other words, does the Swords Dance effect end on evolution?
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yoshi1001
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posted June 16, 2003 09:42 AM
From the compendium:
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Q. If I use Swords Dance with Jungle Scyther and then evolve to Dark Scizor, will Slash do 60 instead of 30? I know this is one of those "self-referencing" rules.
A. Swords Dance is a status effect (like Agility or Smokescreen). Evolving the Scyther would remove it. (Feb 28, 2002 WotC Chat, Q359)
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