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Topic: English Freak IV: Dawn of a New Era
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Postdog2Gengar
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posted June 09, 2003 03:01 PM
Ok, for those of you who keep up with me, you know that I am always trying to find a new quirk in Pokemon cards. Well, this time, I found one. Look at Dark Ariados of the Neo Destiny Expansion. His attack Poison Bind states the following: quote:
The Defending Pokemon is now poisoned. Flip a coin. If heads, the Defending Pokemon can't retreat until the end of your opponent's next turn and if the effect of an attack, Pokemon Power, or Trainer card would change that player's Active Pokemon, that part of the effect does nothing.
If you look closely, you will notice that the last part of the attack does not specifically mention retreating; it just says "change that player's Active Pokemon".
So, here's my scenario. Let's say that Dark Ariados uses this attack against a Rocket Magikarp, and his trainer flips a heads. Then, my hypothesis is, that if the Magikarp used Rapid Evolution, he would not be able to evolve/attatch a Gyrados, because that would be changing the Active Pokemon from Magikarp to Gyrados.
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Noah Weiss
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posted June 09, 2003 04:58 PM
^I believe that is a no. The wording "change the Active Pokémon" in this case means to move it to the Bench, either by retreating or using a Trainer, Energy, or PokéPower. Evolution is still allowed.
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MrGrass
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posted June 09, 2003 06:28 PM
I'd have to say no based on context. Change can mean "to cause to be different" but it can also mean "to exchange for or replace with another". The effect begins by referring to retreating, which is an exhange of pokemon replacing one with another. Since the idea of replacement and exchange is already brought up, it seems reasonable for the word "change" later on to take the latter meaning. Since Rapid Evolution is not an exchange or replacement, but an alteration, it is not stopped by Poison Bind.
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Postdog2Gengar
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posted June 10, 2003 08:10 AM
Ah, OK. That was close, though. Now, could you answer another question for me? Here's the text of Neo 2 Pineco. Here's its attack, Burst. quote:
Flip a coin. If heads, Pineco does 40 damage to itself and 10 damage to each Pokemon on each player's Bench. (Don't apply Weakness and Resistance for Benched Pokemon.) Flip a coin. If tails, this attack does nothing (not even damage.)
Look closely. It says Flip a Coin twice. Does that mean that you flip one coin for the 40 damage to self thing, and then another one for seeing if the attack does nothing? Or is it just a misprint, meaning if heads it does 40 damage to itself and if tails, this attack does nothing?
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Spectreon
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posted June 10, 2003 08:59 AM
Pineco scenerios
Heads/Heads-40to defending, 40 to itself, 10 to all bench
Heads/Tails-noting
Tails/Heads-40 to defending only, no other damage done
Tails/Tails-nothing
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Dan the Pokeman
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posted June 13, 2003 08:08 AM
As for the Poison Bind/Rapid Evolution - Your scenario isn't possible. Magikarp has 30 HP, Poison Bind does 30 damage (plus a Damage Counter from Poison). Magikarp would be KO'd before it could use Rapid Evolution.
For Pineco, you do flip twice. I believe it's:
Heads/Heads 40 to both Active Pokémon and 10 to all benched Pokémon.
Anything else = nothing happens.
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WizPoG_Pop
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posted June 13, 2003 10:48 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Spectreon:
Pineco scenerios
Heads/Heads-40to defending, 40 to itself, 10 to all bench
Heads/Tails-noting
Tails/Heads-40 to defending only, no other damage done
Tails/Tails-nothing
Yep, this is the right way to play it.
The card was templated wrong, but it was ruled to play it as printed.
There was talk of releasing a flow chart to explain how the card should be played... ![[Wink]](../tcg/wink.gif)
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Postdog2Gengar
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posted June 13, 2003 11:18 AM
I knew it!!! I knew that eventually, I would find a card where Pokemon screwed up!!! Bwahahahahahahahaha!!!!! ![[Evil Smirk]](../tcg/graemlins/Up_to.gif)
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