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MrGrass
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posted June 11, 2003 01:03 AM
Here's a fun question: since Devolution Spray and Hyper Devolution Spray count as evolving, could you use the promo Eevee's Chain Reaction power when one of them is played?
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NoPoke
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posted June 11, 2003 03:17 AM
Its not a 'FUN' question at all! Its a very very cruel question LOL
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Q. Hyper Devolution Spray says you cant evolve the same turn you devolve. So does this mean you can't evolve then devolve, vice versa, or both?
A. It means that you can't play the devolution, and THEN evolve; you could evolve first, and then use the Hyper Dev. (Jun 7, 2001 WotC Chat, Q94)
*Now for Devolution Spray. Devolving a Pokémon DOES count as evolving it (again, a reversal on a previous ruling). This means that if you use Devolution Spray on one of your Pokémon you CANNOT evolve it again on that same turn. Sorry if these rule changes are confusing. It just shows again, how nothing is set in stone when it comes to Pokémon. (May 18, 2000 WotC Chat Announcements)
Q. If you Hyper Devo Spray an Eevolution so that Promo Eevee or NEO: Discovery Eevee is the Basic, can you re-evolve these if another Pokemon evolves/you get a heads? Same with Gyarados HDS to Magikarp from TR.
A. Yes you could. (Jul 19, 2001 WotC Chat, Q66)
Q. Can I use Devolution Spray (trainer) on a Pokémon that I evolved on that same turn? For example, I evolve to Muk to turn off Dark Vileplume's "Hay Fever", play all the trainer cards I want, and finally use DevoSpray on the Muk at the end.
A. Yes you could do that. [The text on the card that says] it would count as evolving means you could not then evolve a Pokémon you Devolved that turn. It is NOT Evolving so you can play it after Evolving. It just counts as it for the sake of figuring other rules. Confusing I know. (Oct 19, 2000 WotC Chat, Q38 & Q86)
So thats a YES er NO er YES er No er YES er
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[edit you forgot to add RETRO CAVE....]
[ June 11, 2003, 03:24 AM: Message edited by: NoPoke ]
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DOMCGI
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posted June 11, 2003 07:13 AM
Chain Reaction is not count as NORMAL evolution. It pull a card from the deck and put on the Eevee.
Normal Evolution is "Play a card from the hand to evolve Pokemon without help by Trainer or Pokemon Power".
Only "Normal Evolution" is restricted by the evolution rule.
Note: some Trainer or Power only can be used if you CAN Evolve in normal way, like Breeder.
So if you just devolve Eevee and someone evolve other Pokemon (in legal method), Eevee can use Chain Reaction to evolve in the same turn.
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posted June 11, 2003 01:58 PM
I don't know the answer, but I do think that the question has been mis-interpreted.
What I think MrGrass means is, when you evolve any Pokemon you get to search for and attach an Eeveelution.
Example:
I play Xatu onto Natu. I search my deck for an Espeon and attach it to Eevee.
Now, if devolution counts as evolution, does it allow you to search for an Eeveelution?
Example:
I devolve my Furret into Sentret. Can I search for an Umbreon to evolve my Eevee?
For what it's worth, I think no, but that's not an official ruling.
Anyway, does it really matter? I think you and Porygone3 need locking up. ![[Smile]](../tcg/smile.gif)
(btw, have you ever realised how difficult it is to type Eevee? I keep holding shift down when I tap the 'E' twice, resulting in EEvee.)
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BJJ763
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posted June 11, 2003 07:14 PM
I'll have to say "No". The "counts as Evolving" phrase means a few things - like NoPoke already stated it's so you know you cannot Evolve that Pokémon again and it's also for letting you know that any effects of attacks (like Special Conditions or Smoke Screen) are now gone.
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MrGrass
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posted June 11, 2003 07:46 PM
Well other effects that "count as evolving", like Koga's Kakuna's Emerge Power and Energy Evolution trigger Chain reaction, so why not Devolution Spray?
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MrGrass
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posted June 11, 2003 07:48 PM
Since I've inadvertantly double posted, I just want to take advantage of this opportunity to say...
Na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na
[ June 12, 2003, 07:17 PM: Message edited by: MrGrass ]
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DOMCGI
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posted June 12, 2003 07:24 AM
I am sorry that I mis-interprete the question.
I agree with MrGrass that Devolution will trigger Eevee Chain Reaction.
Chain Reaction: .... when a Pokemon evolves ....
If all devolution are officially "count as evolves", it should meet the condition to trigger Chain Reaction.
Also, both evolve and devolve are a Pokemon changing it's stage. Devolve is just an evolution to lower stage.
I support the idea that any effect, which is triggered by evolve, also will be triggered by devolve.
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