|
Author
|
Topic: R/S Linoone
|
0bserver
Member
Member # 69190
|
posted June 21, 2003 11:39 PM
Would Linoone work well in a dedicated Blastoise deck?
Pros: Great attacks, imo. Colorless to not detract from mono-Water.
Cons: 70 HP. Weak Basic. F weakness?
The Fighting weakness is not really a worry of mine, though. Thoughts?
[ June 26, 2003, 01:03 AM: Message edited by: 0bserver ]
--------------------
Me
Registered: Mar 2002
| IP: Logged
|
|
PojosamaWannabe
Member
Member # 74186
|
posted June 22, 2003 08:11 AM
Well, I think the card is overrated. Do you really want to waste 4 spots on the line and then an energy and then a turn to attack. Its basically Rogue bait. I don't think it will see much play.
--------------------
Winner of Cedar Grove AQ SBZ
Winner of Rockefeller Center SK SBZ
DCI Rating: 1814+?
From: Central New Jersey | Registered: Mar 2002
| IP: Logged
|
|
0bserver
Member
Member # 69190
|
posted June 22, 2003 02:10 PM
The two most predominant options for me from Pokemon EX:
1) Zigzagoon/Linoone.
2) Wingull/Pelipper.
Regarding Pelipper, I see it's pros being a Water Pokemon (to fit the Blastoise theme) and efficient attacks, although not as efficient as maybe Linoone's. It's cons, it can only do 60/70 every other turn, has a weaker Basic than Zigzagoon, and has 70 HP.
Although I've only had one response, which of the two is better for a Raindance deck?
--------------------
Me
Registered: Mar 2002
| IP: Logged
|
|
Prime
Member
Member # 102940
|
posted June 22, 2003 07:52 PM
The thing about Linoone is that every turn, without a flip, you can get 2 cards out of your deck, your choice, and put them into your hand. That is worth playing for the first and the last of the game when you need the cards to either start the deck going or to finish them off. Sure its tyrouge bait but so is a bunch of electric pokemon.
--------------------
"Do not follow where the path may lead. Go instead where there is no path and leave a trail." ~ Ralph Waldo Emerson
From: Asheville, North Carolina | Registered: Aug 2002
| IP: Logged
|
|
NoPoke
Member # 42315
|
posted June 23, 2003 01:09 AM
Linoone is very powerfull in draft...I'm not going to make that mistake again.
.
.
.
.
.
.(I'll make some others instead LOL)
--------------------
========================================
'Good News' or 'Bad News' but NOT NO NEWS
some people brag about their tournament results, me I'm gonna brag??? about what players have managed to get past me LOL
-------Hoodwinked---(things I won't get wrong again...)------
'legal stalling' : game loss at least
'only joking' on misreported match results: DQ Yep its that serious!
The prize swap penalty as it applies to shuffling.
From: Crawley England | Registered: Sep 2001
| IP: Logged
|
|
The true lord of the pits
Member
Member # 116764
|
posted June 23, 2003 01:49 AM
Well, I think it is kind of funny to worry about Linoone getting 'Rogued: it isn't legal in any sanctioned tournaments, so you've got nothing to lose in a casual deck, and (probably) when Nintendo comes along, they'll make their shrewd "E-on" format.
Well, in a world without Tyrogue, Linoone's got nothing real big to worry about early game, except mainly Scizor, and a few odds and ends. However, I don't know how well it will fair when they introduce that rare Candy, though ![[Evil Smirk]](../tcg/graemlins/Up_to.gif)
Edit: to try to answer your question, oh, I'd say that, while both stage 1's are very tough to pull off in unlimited, you should go with Pelipper, as you have enough card drawing as is. With oaks, copycats, computer searches and what-not, you have no reason to fear not getting what you need.
[ June 24, 2003, 12:20 PM: Message edited by: The true lord of the pits ]
--------------------
"The Cabal is here, and everywhere."
The, one, only...
www.imakuni.com
The crazy, teen-oriented: www.pojo.com
Website Reborn!
www.bulbagarden.com
Also, be sure to check out our super-cool trade forum!
http://bmgf.bulbagarden.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=67
From: TEXAS... Giddy up! | Registered: Nov 2002
| IP: Logged
|
|
0bserver
Member
Member # 69190
|
posted June 23, 2003 08:26 PM
quote:
Originally posted by The true lord of the pits:
Edit: to try to answer your question, ob, I'd say that, while both stage 1's are very tough to pull off in unlimited, you should go with Pelipper, as you have enough card drawing as is. With oaks, copycats, computer searches and what-not, you have no reason to fear not getting what you need.
That despite only doing 60-70 every other turn? Anyway, thanks for the response.
Regarding Tyrogue, I'm the only one in the area that uses Fighting Pokemon, so Linoone's Weakness is not an issue.
--------------------
Me
Registered: Mar 2002
| IP: Logged
|
|
The true lord of the pits
Member
Member # 116764
|
posted June 24, 2003 12:27 PM
quote:
Flip a coin until you get tails. This attack does 40 damage times the number of heads.
Flippy guys like Marowak and Linoone have trouble seeing play often, due to their ummm... flippy-ness. Well, no bother. What I mean is that you have a 50/50 chance of doing anything at all.
Also, Tyrogue can be splashed into many decks, which made him so easy to play in the current modified, not just in fighting decks.
--------------------
"The Cabal is here, and everywhere."
The, one, only...
www.imakuni.com
The crazy, teen-oriented: www.pojo.com
Website Reborn!
www.bulbagarden.com
Also, be sure to check out our super-cool trade forum!
http://bmgf.bulbagarden.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=67
From: TEXAS... Giddy up! | Registered: Nov 2002
| IP: Logged
|
|
0bserver
Member
Member # 69190
|
posted June 24, 2003 01:10 PM
quote:
Originally posted by The true lord of the pits:
Flippy guys like Marowak and Linoone have trouble seeing play often, due to their ummm... flippy-ness. Well, no bother. What I mean is that you have a 50/50 chance of doing anything at all.
I'm a relatively lucky flipper, you can say. ![[Wink]](../tcg/wink.gif) Not always, but I get my fair share of heads.
I understand what you say about Tyrogue. Since I play against two people, and they don't play him at all, my greatest fear is diminished, so to speak.
[ June 24, 2003, 01:11 PM: Message edited by: 0bserver ]
--------------------
Me
Registered: Mar 2002
| IP: Logged
|
|
ukpokemonpro
Member # 518
|
posted June 26, 2003 12:29 AM
quote:
Would Linoone work well in a dedicated Blastoise deck
I don't know really having not seen the card yet but why if we are putting R&S cards in with unlimited for FUN would you not play Blastoise/Kyogre?
KO them all on turn 2... I win with Kyogre the only Poke in play...
Unlimited just went out the window I am afraid ...
--------------------
ukpokemonpro
"a meaningless title is just that ... meaningless"
"London Super Battlezone 2003"
quote the judge...
'only joking' on misreported match results: DQ Yep its that serious!
14,000 deck boxes yeah we'll take all of them .... what have I done!
Find the Pokemon League and Tournaments in Kent at:The Gamers Guild
From: Gillingham, Kent, UK | Registered: Feb 2001
| IP: Logged
|
|
0bserver
Member
Member # 69190
|
posted June 26, 2003 01:03 AM
quote:
Originally posted by ukpokemonpro:
[QBI don't know really having not seen the card yet but why if we are putting R&S cards in with unlimited for FUN would you not play Blastoise/Kyogre?...[/QB]
The actual deck is now posted in the deck forum. But to answer the question, Kyogre EX is already in it. This would be in addition to Blastoise/Kyogre EX.
--------------------
Me
Registered: Mar 2002
| IP: Logged
|
|
|
Printer-friendly view of this topic
