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Topic: Pokémon Park and Rainbow Energy?
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Freddy K
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posted February 19, 2003 11:32 PM
Pokémon Park in play, Rainbow Energy attached to bench - no damage?
Pokémon Park - once during turn, whenever a player attaches an Energy Card from their hand to one of their Benched Pokémon, they remove 1 damage counter if any from that Pokémon.
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SteveP
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posted February 19, 2003 11:41 PM
The real question is, what if a Pokemon has 10 HP left when you attach the Rainbow (and Park is in play)?
I thought that any effects on a card coming into play always happen regardless of other effects currently in play (i.e., Howl works regardless of Sputter or Muk). That being the case, the Rainbow damage counter gets placed first, then the Pokemon Park effect removes a counter. So, a Pokemon with 10 HP left would be KO'd before the Park effect activates. JMO.
A good question for the Chat (unless it's already in the Compendium).
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Onix95
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posted February 20, 2003 12:54 AM
Since these effects come into action at the same time, would the following be true?
A) If the player playing the Rainbow Energy owns the Pokémon Park as well, they get to choose which effect happens first.
B) If the player playing the Rainbow Energy does not own the Pokémon Park, their Rainbow Energy's effect goes first, then the Pokémon Park kicks in.
This goes in line with the previous ruling of when a Slowking and Chaos Gym are both in play. In this situation, if your opponent plays a trainer, and you owned both Slowking and Chaos Gym, you would get to choose which effect comes first, while if your opponent owned the Chaos Gym, and you owned Slowking your opponent would flip for Chaos Gym first.
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yoshi1001
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posted February 20, 2003 10:24 AM
Well, that makes sense from a logical standpoint, but I'd ask it in chat. Both say "when you play ____ from your hand" which should make them of equal rank, but who knows?
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posted February 20, 2003 12:22 PM
It is the same as with Blaine's ninetales+Rainbow NRG with 10 HP left: it does damage, kills 9-tales, and both cards get discarded; check it out in the Compendium.
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SteveP
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posted February 20, 2003 03:52 PM
According to the chat today, Onix got it right.
Quote from Onix:
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A) If the player playing the Rainbow Energy owns the Pokémon Park as well, they get to choose which effect happens first.
B) If the player playing the Rainbow Energy does not own the Pokémon Park, their Rainbow Energy's effect goes first, then the Pokémon Park kicks in.
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ShadowCard
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posted February 20, 2003 04:51 PM
Why would it matter who owns the stadium?
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yoshi1001
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posted February 20, 2003 04:58 PM
Because if it's yours, you own both effects, and get to decide the order, if it's your opponent's your effect goes first, then theirs.
[ February 20, 2003, 04:59 PM: Message edited by: yoshi1001 ]
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Freddy K
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posted February 20, 2003 10:04 PM
A BIG 'Thank you' to the wonderful person who asked it in today's chat!!! I had liek this massive headache that hurt me liek wh0a
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jesschow12
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posted February 21, 2003 02:46 AM
no i dont think so because:
if you attach rainbow energy that means that you have successfully attach an energy to it so the pokemon gets kockout first
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Onix95
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posted February 21, 2003 07:06 PM
The text from both cards regarding this situation:
Pokémon Park:
Once during each of his or her turns, whenever a players attaches an Energy card from his or her hand to 1 of his or her Benched Pokémon, he or she removes 1 damage counter, if any, from that Pokémon.
Rainbow Energy:
Attach Rainbow Energy to 1 of your Pokémon. While in play, Rainbow Energy provides every type of Energy but provides only 1 Energy at a time. (Doesn't count as a basic Energy card when not in play.) When you attach this card from your hand to 1 of your Pokémon, put 1 damage counter on that Pokémon.
These cards both have effects that activate upon attachment of the energy, so their effects "turn on" at the same time. In cases where two effects owned by different players "turn on" at the same time, your effect comes first. In cases where two effects owned by the same player "turn on" at the same time, the player gets to choose which effect happens first.
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