Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

Scorpio! (back from the dead)

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ok your right, it takes u 2 turns to power up mewtwo if you use the MD one (which you will) but it takes me 2 turns to kill u lol
 
rroaryh said:
like ... are they really doing that? putting in metagross? how much does that slow or even kill the deck? ugh kingdra players make me sad
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Yes, it is in my current list as well as other techs that can help in this particular matchup. I was sceptical of Kingdra as well, but a balanced list that doesn't concentrate on the donk can be extremely solid....I'm not hyping Kingdra or anything, but a good swarm deck can't be stymied by a stupid mime or it's useless......Scorpio may still have an advantage, but 80-20 is hardly fair....
 
"The 'trade off' that you're talking about is pointless, if I bring whatever I need to BACK the next turn, care of Premier ball, etc.

Mime is owned by Mewtwo Lv.X - he requires 3 energy already. One Psyburn and poor Mime is gone without a second thought. You nightslash, bring out... er... anything... and it is owned by Mewtwo Lv.X -again-. All while not even being slightly worried about my pixies. That's 2 - 1 prizes, and you have to work to get out another mime / etc, when I just premier ball / NM - Bebe out Mewtwo Lv. X again [ if I even -need- to. ]

Mime isn't a threat to -this- AMU deck. I use Mime against Kingdra myself, and it is a heck of a staller against kingdra. I don't think I argued about it against kingdra itself, albeit, with a regice, no one will care about Mime in the first place.

Like I said. I'm all for healthy play. I'm not saying Scorpio is a bad deck in the slightest. I'm merely protesting the thought that it'll WTFPWN AMU without even worrying about it. I would absolutely love to test against it.

Don't read me wrong, bro. S'all I'm saying"

Isn't...worth...it? Uhh.... hmm lemme think about that. So are you telling me, that I should sack my Gliscor instead then? I mean seeing as Venomoth shouldn't be attacking, and is meant to die, and the strategy is to attack with Gliscor and run behind the walls (Veno, Shuckle, Mime), I think that "trade-off" is very "worth it" indeed. That s'all I'm saying as well. Not to mention do you bother to equate Poison Shoot locking Mewtwo into the active without a switch card like your treasured little Warp Point? If anyone is biased... Oh Umbreon, I found through playing this deck that Armaldo is a HUGE problem for me. Even with Pester at disposal, it still resists Night Slash and the hit-and-run strategy of the deck. What would you do against it?
 
against armaldo I would say go balls to wall speed and use Darkrai (if u play it which I do) to pester + lvl up for more pesters. thats wut you will have to do
 
one armaldo dies, the deck slows to a stalt.

I understand what you are saying, it does not give us an auto-win against amu or kingdra, but it helps the deck to such an extreme point that we feel it gives the edge int he matchup, turning an auto loss to a 70-30 our favor? sounds yummy
 
Sounds like an answer but that buggers so nasty to Gliscor. I mean even with Gliscor having resistance it still sucks fighting him...
 
shedinja is gr8 in here if you know how to use him

1-1 weez might be ok, but you want good starts with this deck
 
I really like this deck. This is my build of this deck and I'm thinking of playing it in BR's!

pokemon 22
4gligar 60hp
3gliscor 80hp
1gliscor LVX
1nincada
1shednja
2torcoal
1mr mime
1darkrai MD
1chatot MD
1uxie MT
2baltoy
2claydol
2unown Q

trainers 26
4bebes
4roseannes
4TM TS-1 (evo)
2cynthias feelings
2switch
2warp point
2super scoop up
2pluspower
2night maintenance
1prmier ball
1stark mountain

energy 12
8:fighting:
1:dark:
3call
 
billbilski said:
Scorpio may still have an advantage, but 80-20 is hardly fair....
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You're absolutely right Scott, thats why I said 65-35 in an earlier post. Maybe 70-30.

Im am so sick of people talking about Regice and warp in Kingdra, us explaining how it doesnt matter, and more Kingdra players mentioning the same thing... :|
 
Regice owns Mr. Mime. Far from anti-Kingdra, not only does it get Mr. Mime put on the bench, but it fuels Kingdra's attack. People need to not get their panties in a bunch and realize that not everything is perfect, you do realize that all of this also depends on who plays the deck and what else is in it right?
 
My friend plays a deck like this. Trust me, it beats a Kingdra without Dawn Stadium or copious amounts of Switch/Warp Point.

He uses a 4-3-1 Gliscor setup with Sentret/Furret and Cresselia/Cresselia Lv. X. He runs Moonlight Stadium so the Cressy have free retreat. he has Azelf tech to search for Gliscor Lv. X or whatever he happens to need.

He generally has to sacrifice something to get everything setup, but once he has 3 Gligar and 2 Gliscor out, with Lv. X in his hand, the fun begins.

Have you ever noticed the other effect on Gliscor's Burning Poison? The one where you return Gliscor and everything attached to it back to your hand?

He uses this with Gliscor Lv. X's Poke-Power, which inflicts paralysis and poison.

Essentially what happens is he retreats Cresselia, switches in Gliscor, Levels up, uses the para/poison, and burns on the way back to his hand. This leaves your active pokemon paralyzed. Cressy returns to the Active position.

On his next turn, he lays down another Gligar, Evolve the Gligar he had out last turn, and moves a Gliscor up front, Levels it up, etc.

This can be done in an infinite loop that can only be broken by: Evolution, Level Up, Special Condition healing stadiums/trainers, Switch, Warp Point, Warp Energy (IFDS), Xatu (SW), or Palkia Lv. X's Poke-Power.

In short, Kingdra never even gets the chance to hit Gliscor, much less snipe anything because it is locked into paralysis. Once you use up your Warp Points/Switches, the game is over, since the deck has a lot of maintenance trainers, and Gliscor can slowly kill off your pokemon with Poison and Burn, with not a whole lot you can do about it.

This changes if you run Dawn Stadium with Kingdra, in which case facing Kingdra is pretty much Auto-Loss. That gives you minor problems with Leafeon Lv. X (which can do the same thing with Dawn Stadium to obliterate Scorpio's chances), but it renders Scorpio completely impotent.

Scorpio is dangerous because it can inflict Infinite paralysis with Powers, and simply scoop itself safely back into the trainer's hand. Thus why Gardevoir's Psylock shuts it down thoroughly.
 
lol dawn stadium does not mean auto loss. you guys are not looking deep enough. we are not pestering you all day and hoping you flip tails on burns and poison kills you, we hit you for 60 and run, last I checked dawn stadium doesn't stop that. yes we have pester to blow up on something but it is mainly a hit and run deck
 
billbilski said:
Scorpio may still have an advantage, but 80-20 is hardly fair....
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You can't swarm if you need 3 turns to charge your swarmers. Besides, Kingra with Metagross autowins vs. Scorpio, even if it's just on a flip, you can keep flipping every turn. All you need is a heads, and BAM anything is at mercy to Kingra, with weakness and all.

EDIT: Dustin, we need to add the whole 2 Mimes beat Warp/Regice to the main post in big, bold lettering.
 
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Ignatious said:
Kingdra doesn't come close. 80-20 They can't do ANYTHING in the match up.

In the match up, Scorpio should never attack with anything except for Night Slash. Pester leaves you open, and Burning Poison does virtually nothing, with the 1 retreat cost Kingdra has. Even with that ONE attack option, what can kingdra do? By the time a Kingdra has three energy on it to kill the Mime, Scorpio has already killed it, or will be killing it next turn. Warp and Regice can't even help with Scprio lacking a second Mime. Put up a Claydol for that matters. Kill it and watch as I don't care (if already damaged), or I attach, switch with Stark, retreat and continue Night Slashing. Donking can't be relyable either, as a Mime start shuts that down. If you argue that Gliscor is much harder to set up than Kingra, please explain how.. Kingdra is a stage 2, and Gliscor is a stage 1 LvX, they seem even to me, assuming the decks have successful trainer engines. Gliscor may be a little harder to set up, due to the 2-2 line Gliscor is split with, however Mime gives you extra time if you need it.
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you again, i justt seen your biast post inthe AMU thread.

look people: i know this is a thread for a deck be make sure that you arent biased towards it in figuring logical matchups.

think about what this deck is for a sec. all you've done is try to recreate polistal. everyone hates polistall!!!

king is one of those decks that will be able to pull out of lame situations. how you ask? simple: kingdra combos with claydol, claydol makes it faster, simple as. that means you got a 4-3-4 and a 2-2 line in a deck. tech space anyone? why not throw in a 1-0-1 metagross into kingra? okay its flip but it does the job. or even a 1-1 palkia? that'll also be a huge problem. you arent thinking of both angles, but filling out biased statements that follow your biased logic....
 
lolganium said:
you again, i justt seen your biast post inthe AMU thread.

look people: i know this is a thread for a deck be make sure that you arent biased towards it in figuring logical matchups.

think about what this deck is for a sec. all you've done is try to recreate polistal. everyone hates polistall!!!

king is one of those decks that will be able to pull out of lame situations. how you ask? simple: kingdra combos with claydol, claydol makes it faster, simple as. that means you got a 4-3-4 and a 2-2 line in a deck. tech space anyone? why not throw in a 1-0-1 metagross into kingra? okay its flip but it does the job. or even a 1-1 palkia? that'll also be a huge problem. you arent thinking of both angles, but filling out biased statements that follow your biased logic....
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no ... its simple logic. I created the modern version of scorpio in my area that many of my friends play. I play kingdra. I think i know TONS about the kingdra and scorpio matchup, seeing as I play scorpio all day with kingdra. And this is the modern polistall, and that is delicious, i love polistall, so back off.

Kingdra is one of those decks that is a completely different beast in play than on paper. Scorpio works on paper EXACTLY as it does in game. Kingdra can either go for donk, if it doesnt get claydol t2-3, it will run out of steam and either stop doing damage to get claydol or focus ENTIRELY on damage and put everything into one kingdra. Yes kingdra can set up a gross (if its wasting the room and hoping nothing is prized) against scorpio. But scorpio will be able to get set, even with a kingdra going at its throat, with mime and fast enough that the kingdra player will have to get its first kingdra, than a claydol, than a gross. So it may be pitching dawns when it cant pitch energy cause it needs draw and search for those, AND if that 1 kingdra goes down, the deck is sooo sad. Can it stall and set another one up? of course. Will the macth pretty much be done @ that point? yes.

Trust me I know both decks exceptionally well and a kingdra player will need to link videos of them pwning scorpio with something more than a donk to convince me.

ROr
 
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