Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

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octillery49

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What do you expect to see played often and win often at states? Please remember to give reasons or my poor little thread will be instantly descended upon by the almighty moderators and locked as a poll:frown:

I think:

Duskgar:

Dusknoir varients have made top 4 of the majority of cities even beating out the mighty Kingdra. Out of those Dusknoir varients, Duskgar seems to be the one that's doing best. Also, Gengar gains Handsome's investigation which will allow you MUCH more control over poltergeist. Another thing about this deck is it seems to have very few bad matchups.

Torterra:
Shaymin X and the new Torterra are sooooooooo BROKEN!!!!! With sceptile in play Torterra can EASILY be pulling off 100+ EVERY TURN!!!:eek:
Torterra is another deck with solid matchups that is DEFINITELY a tier one contender.

Mightyena/Skuntank:

Having a good matchup against the two decks I just mentioned and just doing so much damage, I'd say that this will be one of the better decks for states.

One more deck I'd like to mention:

Blastcatty:
Blastcatty COULD have been BDIF, but the pokemon card makers decided to throw two AMAZING counters to this deck in the same set. Manectric and Ampharos. Manectric eliminates the threat of Blastoise's broken attack Water Blaster and Amphy eliminates the threat of it's power.
However, that being said, if you're not facing those two cards, this deck is BROKEN you can rush out a blastoise and take a million prizes while sniping your opponents key benched pokemon and accelarating energy like you're playing one of the old style decks.
 
its to soon to know what will be good, after tha last week of citys and more and more people look at GC then we'll know what'll be the metagame for states
 
Somebody's forgetting bdif....

G-Pokemon

So fast, somewhat hard to counter, and Anticipate(Croak's body) is like an unown G.

Mightyena/Skunktank will NOT see play because 1. They are both bad cards now, and 2. They shouldn't be much of a threat.

I think DuskGar may see play, but it'll probably be G-decks and Shaymin Variants.

JMHO.
 
I can't see how G Pokemon can get that popular. Machamp runs through all but one of the them as far as I can see. They are all basics and they can all be KO'd by Machamp with EASE. I just don't see it.

As far as States, it is way too early to be discussing this. The next set hasn't been release and therefore we can't possibly predict what will be good until then. People try but more times than not they are WRONG about these things.

Drew
 
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Toxicroak G LV.40 – Psychic – HP90
Basic Pokemon (SP)

Poke-Body: Anticipate
Prevent all effects of attacks, excluding damage, done to this Pokemon by your opponent's Pokemon.

[P][C] Deep Poison: 20 damage. If the Defending Pokemon is Poisoned, this attack does an additional 40 damage.

Weakness: Psychic (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 2


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Croak prevents the Take out, and Abuses Champ's weakness.
 
The only thing agree with on your list is terra and sort of duskgar. Terra will be great. No denying that. Ther is a great new terra coming and shamin only makes it better. Duskgar together isn't really good anyways. Seperate they are good. Gengar only gets better while dusknoir stays the same. Toxicraok is 10 tiems better than mighteyena wiht skunktank. And blastcatty is built for a nother format. The whole deck is slow inconsistent needs a huge bench. Discards a lot of cards loses to spread especially bronzong. Zong eats this deck. Amphys decent. G pokes are decent too. Champ will see a lot more play. Gigas only gets better exept for the increase of champ.
 
Blastcatty can be extremely fast, you've obviously never played a good list. Zong, Manectric and Amphy eat it alive though, so even though you misunderstand the deck somewhat, you're still right.

G pokemon still have an AWFUL Champ matchup even with Toxicroak.

I still don't entirely understand why people think that Mightyena/Skuntank isn't very good. It's such a high damage deck and abuses Gengar and Dusknoir's weakness. With a lake boundary in play you're OHKOing all of there pokemon.
 
The fact that at the end of your turn your left with a 80 HP mighteyena. Also dialga beats it. Also toxicroak is 10 times better too. I mean a basic with 90 HP doing 60 for 2/1 and it has a lot of cards that work with it is better than a 90 hp stage 2 that poisons itself to hit for no energy. And G pokemon have a better matchup against champ than mightyena does. They have the same chance of donk if toxicroak isn't the starter which 4 should be played. Also champs second attack needs 3 heads ot be fliped for croak to die. Champs second attack only needs ot flip 2 heads to kill a mightyena saying you poisoned yourself. Croak has a harder time against gengar noir but thats okay. If you are caught with 3 trainers in your hand migheyana is dead compared to the 2 to kill croak. Also toxicroak plays at least 1 wevile which can help that matchup and i play honchrow in mine.
 
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TheDarkTwins said:
I can't see how G Pokemon can get that popular. Machamp runs through all but one of the them as far as I can see. They are all basics and they can all be KO'd by Machamp with EASE. I just don't see it.

As far as States, it is way too early to be discussing this. The next set hasn't been release and therefore we can't possibly predict what will be good until then. People try but more times than not they are WRONG about these things.

Drew
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Weren't we saying this about Gigas?(Well, I wasn't :D) But he's still played, is he not?
 
G pokemon, just don't seem to be any good. They are only strong early in the game, and even then, they are just so-so. I'd easily prefer Machamp/Kingdra which are just as fast as the G pokemon, but with stronger attacks and higher HP.

"Duskgar" is not a good play now, what makes you think Platinum will make it better? Dusknoir with Lumineon or Bronzong is a much more effective deck choice.

I also believe Shaymin LvX is overrated, I don't see this card changing the grass type's fate as the worst type in the game. Many figured Heatran would save Magmortar, but it's still a bad play, even without Kingdra roaming around.

Ampharos + Manectirc seems like a great deck, or maybe even Ampharos + Abomasnow. Dialga G LvX may see a lot of play versus this.
 
Brawler1624 said:
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Toxicroak G LV.40 – Psychic – HP90
Basic Pokemon (SP)

Poke-Body: Anticipate
Prevent all effects of attacks, excluding damage, done to this Pokemon by your opponent's Pokemon.

[P][C] Deep Poison: 20 damage. If the Defending Pokemon is Poisoned, this attack does an additional 40 damage.

Weakness: Psychic (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 2


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Croak prevents the Take out, and Abuses Champ's weakness.
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Read the post next time. He said all but one.
 
One big thing I would say about states: don't base the strategy of your deck completely off of a non-SP pokebody, i.e. Ampharos, Manectric, Shaymin Lv.X, Raichu Lv.X, Sceptile GE, etc. I'm definitely interested in Dialga G Lv.X and I'm sure a lot of other people are too.
 
Brawler1624 said:
Somebody's forgetting bdif....

G-Pokemon

So fast, somewhat hard to counter, and Anticipate(Croak's body) is like an unown G.

Mightyena/Skunktank will NOT see play because 1. They are both bad cards now, and 2. They shouldn't be much of a threat.

I think DuskGar may see play, but it'll probably be G-decks and Shaymin Variants.

JMHO.
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I really hope you're right about Duskgar seeing more play than Mighty.

I really do.
 
I really think Blaziken and Rhyperior are going to be amazing. Blaziken kills Shaymin stuff and can do 120 a turn with Heatran and if you run the GE one it can snipe Claydol, Dialga G, etc. Rhyperior finally gets that Dialga that puts three energy back on top of you deck so it can easily do 150 every turn.
 
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Ignatious said:
I also believe Shaymin LvX is overrated, I don't see this card changing the grass type's fate as the worst type in the game. Many figured Heatran would save Magmortar, but it's still a bad play, even without Kingdra roaming around.
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Have you read the translations for the new Torterra? That's why people think that Torterra will do so well, Shaymin's just a bonus.
 
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Torterra LV.48 – Grass – HP140
Stage 2 – Evolves from Grotle

[G][C][C] Green Blast: Does 40 damage + an additional 10 damage for each Grass Energy you have in play.
[G][G][C][C] Aromatherapy: 80 damage. The Defending Pokemon is now Asleep.

Weakness: Fire (+30)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 4


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Yeah, green blast's AWESOME.[/sarcazm]

Look, it takes 3 energy to begin with. Sceptile and Shaymin won't help here, since the Poke-Bodies will get shut of by Dialga G Lv.X. Think about it; with croak doing 70 every turn(with poison), you'll be 2HKO'ed. Now don't tell me you're going to use leafeon, because by the time you get that out, it won't matter anymore. Level MAX is too flippy to rely on.


Now, Blastcatty is the next verdict.

Blastoise and Delcatty look INSANE together- but can be stopped easily by Ampharos power-lock.

Mightyena looks awesome when looking at the translations- but the poison will kill it in the end.

AmphyTrick looks really good- but you're going to have to find a way to consistently draw cards every turn(no Uxie or Claydol), and if you can't you'll be outspeeded.

Now guys, come on- Champ won't see much play in a G-pokemon/ DuskGar meta.

I can't wait to see what happens really.
 
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