PokeGym Werewolf X: Parisian Intrigue (ENDGAME: Mods, Please Lock this Topic!)

[Azure Kite]

Then who would you suggest voting off? Hmm? do you think we're all stupid? I doubt it, and I know not all of the wolves are stupid. It's a sure fire way to sell your wolf role away if you defend and fail to defend someone who turns out to be a wolf. I wouldn't defend you if I were a wolf and you are, b/c at this point, it looks like your dead. I don't depend on strong roles to win the game, but brute skill in strategy and mind play. That's how I got so far the last game, I only made 2 screw ups. The second was deciding not to kill you. I'm not a wolf this game, but I still intend to achieve my goal...just b/c you have a valuable role, or atleast claim you do, doesn't mean we will assuredly lose without you. Wolf/townie/independant, I've never layed low, and never will unless pulled away from the computer for personal reasons. Give us a good reason to vote for someone who is more likely to be a wolf than you(other than DP) and I'll gladly vote for him.

 

[ARMondak]

If they do, then so be it. The town forced my hand, and I had to play my trump. It's best to try and go after a potential wolf/bad player and leave it to the wolves to decide my fate rather than have me be lynched and another strong townie get killed by the wolves.

 

[Absoltrainer]

I am fully cemented in my vote against Darth Pika now. Darth Pika is dangerous. Even if he is not a wolf, he is something as dangerouse or worse then any wolf. Darth Pika is an irrational thinker.

I'm also really dont understand why kite got so suspicious going on so little info.... Considering that this is his 3rd game, it seems odd that he wouldn't know that. :/

Perhaps Kite and Absol are wolves? This is just an idea, so I'm not going to change my vote yet... For now it will remain Octillery49 unless he can give me a decent answer for why he is voting for Absol.

Here DP attacks Azure Kite and myself. But he gives no reason for tossing my name out except that me andAzure both voted for him.

I still don't understand why everyone seems to think that I may be a wolf. I havn't done anything that would give the impression of me being a wolf. So far the only two people in the game to act odd are Octillery49(seems to be just a random voter, and Azure kite. (went a little overboard on a theory because of Octillery49's random vote).

Everyone? from what I can tell like 2-3 people have voted for you/though of you as a potential threatm but everyone? Please show me how everyone sees you as a wolf.

Lets for a second, for the sake of argument say that I am a wolf. If I was a wolf, why would I do ANYTHING on the first day to make myself look suspisious(bad spelling). If I were a wolf, I would simply wait in quiet and observe the actions of others before posting anything. TBH, if I was a wolf, I would be a really DUMB wolf. One random vote really shouldnt be enough to somehow cause everyone to think I'm a wolf....
Or you would do the complete oppisote of that so that people would not think you are a wolf. Again, everyone? So far 2 people think you are a wolf....

Also... going back to Absols theory that I want the day to be over quickly so I can do some plan during the night. What plan could I posibly have? NO ONE had posted yet, except me so how would getting to night faster help me if I was a wolf? Its just as random as the first day. I had just wanted to get the game started so I could finally see how it works and all. Again, if I was a wolf I would have just waited for others to post first, and then make a few posts just agreeing with them. Yes, I know the first day is random, but I really don't think that I have done anything to make people want to vote for me.

In the past, wolves often use the strategy of proving how their actions are the oppisite of a wolf's. How would you know how a wolf would play, and for that matter, if you knew that and were a wolf would you not play the oppisite way?

I do understand that. I was just trying to eliminate any thoughts that I may be a wolf. You do have a point though, I did over react a bit.

You certainly disagree with yourself in several other posts. You admit to over-reating but claim to never be defensive?

Brawler is starting to sound a little wolfish.... It would probably be smart to keep an eye on him. Out right saying your a towns person with out giving any proof of why you arn't a wolf seems odd to me.

Now he is attacking Brawler, after attacking Azure Kite and Myself. DP says that because Brawler is calling himself a townsperson it should be strange. Is that not what DP did 2 quotes above this one?

I also found it a little odd that Kite went a little over the top on guesses about new players. BUT... that was one day. I'm not going to judge people for something on the first day, but I will be watching those people for more odd behavior.

Attacking Kite again, but here you say that you will not judge someone for something they did on the first day? But is that not what you are doing now saying that you vote ARMandak for not posting on the first day?

Kite, I'm not saying your a wolf, just that I don't quite trust you yet.

Wait, you aren't?

Perhaps Kite and Absol are wolves?

Vote: Undecided

Since we have yet to know whats up with ShadowZangoose, ARMondak seems the next best logical choice.
Why, I thought you weren't going to judge people on their Day 1 activities?
I may change depending on how he responds to this, but for now...

UNVOTE: Undecided

VOTE: ARMondak

So now ARMondak is being attacked,you judge him for his day 1 activites

You say your not defending him, yet you present all these reasons of why we shouldn't vote for him.

Your logic that hes a random vote, and that hes busy is HARDLY a valid argument. How would YOU know that hes busy? How do YOU know he cant get on the gym every day?

How do you know he's lying?

He waited until the last posible second to vote, so he would be the obvious choice for a lynch. Your brushing all this off, giving weak excuses, and then saying your not defending him seems very odd to me. As I see it right now, its VERY possible that you BOTH are wolves or some other independent group.

I though you were not going to judge people for day 1 activites. So what if you did not post on 1 day? That makes hi ma wolf? If posting is all a wolf needs to do to get out of suspision, they'll do it. What if we are just attacking a normal townie?

IMO we should be watching Brawler very carefully from now on.

Ok so we are back to attacking Brawler

What are you talking about? Brawler wasn't posing anything against me. I just found it odd that he was brushing off such a very late post as nothing to look at. And if you noticed, I HAVN'T VOTED FOR BRAWLER! I just found his one post odd. Its only day two and theres not much to go on.
But you keep saying to keep an eye on him. In fact you get paranoind and want to keep na eye on like 5 people....

And when was Pikamaster voted for??? What on earth are you talking about? Pikamaster has never been voted for, and I have never said anything relating to him.
That was a typo, I was referring to how Pikamaster got when YOU were voted for, that was an unrelated though sneaking into my post, my mistake.

I'm not the one thinking irationaly, IMO you are. You come up with this weird "DarthPika is attacking anyone who posts something against him" (not true) and that I have been extreamly defensive of Pikamaster (1. Pikamaster hasnt had a vote cast agaisnt him and 2. I have never posted anything to do with him)

Well if you look at these quotes, you do seem to be attacking people, and you are being pretty defensive, can you prove otherwise?


Why is my logic terible? Many others are voting for you yet you single ME out. Why is that? Please explain if you want there to be any chance of me changing my vote. You entire arguement of there being NO chance of the town winning if your voted out sounds very wolfy to me.

Why are you being so defensive? And here you go calling ARMondak wolfy because he is targeting you.

I didn't vote for him simply because I don't think hes worth voting for. No, I don't fully trust him, but I'm not going to accuse him of being a wolf simply for a single post. I over reacted a little, just like you did on the first day.

not accuse Brawler of being a wolf? You said he was acting wolfy.....

Now heres where it gets interesting. Why would Absol say something like that if its very easy to see (come on people its only day 2, not exactly hard to go over the whats been posted) that I never did it? Furthermore, why is Absol defending ARMondak?
As stated it was a typo. Why am I defending ARMondak? I'm not, but I am accusing you of being a danger to this town.

Heres how I see it. If ARMondak is a Wolf/Mason, then theres a very good chance that Absol is to. If hes not (im still willing to change my vote if he can give a good convincing arguement) then Absol is probably a townie.

So from what you have considered so far. I am in a wolf mason with AROondak and Azure Kite. Because we have all voted against you? Do you think that everytime someone votes for you they are in a wolf mason? And wait, you are saying that is ARMondak is a townie, then I am to? Wait I am confused on your logic.

Would you please take a look over the past few posts? There has only been 1 person voting for me that anyone even would consider worth looking at, and thats Absol. ARMondak is looking for anything he can use to stay in the game. Please see my reasoning of Absol and ARMondak voting for me.

I looked at the last few posts. I see you getting paranoid and over defensive everytime someone votes for you.

People, look at those posts, Darthpika is acting extremly dangerous here. He has attacked Azure Kite, ARMondak, Shadow Zangoose, Myself, and Brawler for posting somethign about him. He says he is not calling us wolves, but says we are acting wolfy. He keeps changing his opinions, and everytime someone votes for him, that person becaomes a mason group and wolf member.

I don't think Darth Pika is a wolf. I think he is an independant. Cardz has show there are indies in this game because the key on Post 1 says they are in Pink. DP is behaving like an indie. He is attacking all people who start to question him. If that is the case and he is an indie, then he is a danger to BOTH wolves and townies. I don't like how he jumps to conclusions and irrationally tries to accuse others.

I beleive that Darth Pika needs to be removed from this town before he does something that we will all regret.

 

[DarthPika]

If you are still in doubt, it is better to eliminate someone who jumps the gun on everything and could potentially do some serious harm. While I may not be a vocal player, I can be a very good piece to the town due to my ability to find concrete evidence to swing the game in the town's favor.

Potentially do some serious harm? If you havn't noticed, I HAVE given everyone a fair chance. If someone posts something a little odd/something I don't quite understand their reasoning, its going to get me interested. All I ask is that they give me a GOOD reason (yours havnt been so great) for their actions, I'll drop it.

If your so great for the town, then what your doing is really a dumb move, since you would be the first person the wolves would target. Your digging your own grave here by claiming to be a key towns person when you know that even if you dont get lynched, now that the wolves know you are such a key player they obviously will go straight for you.

 

[Absoltrainer]

No response to everything I just said about you Darth Pika? Why?

instead you continue to attack ARMondak

 

[DarthPika]

Could you please not quote like this. It makes it hard to follow up with another quote.

I am fully cemented in my vote against Darth Pika now. Darth Pika is dangerous. Even if he is not a wolf, he is something as dangerouse or worse then any wolf. Darth Pika is an irrational thinker.




Here DP attacks Azure Kite and myself. But he gives no reason for tossing my name out except that me andAzure both voted for him.

Give me a break on that one. I said I way over reacted, and its my first time playing the game.


In the past, wolves often use the strategy of proving how their actions are the oppisite of a wolf's. How would you know how a wolf would play, and for that matter, if you knew that and were a wolf would you not play the oppisite way?


How would I know how a wolf would play? Logic. I'm not stupid. lol


You certainly disagree with yourself in several other posts. You admit to over-reating but claim to never be defensive?

I don't think I ever said that I was never defensive. Over react, yes, never defensive, no.


Now he is attacking Brawler, after attacking Azure Kite and Myself. DP says that because Brawler is calling himself a townsperson it should be strange. Is that not what DP did 2 quotes above this one?


Again, I wasn't attacking Brawler. If I was really attacking Brawler I would have pushed for him to have been voted out. I'm not. I take back what I said about him (for now), I just want to see what he does.


So now ARMondak is being attacked,you judge him for his day 1 activites

Out of all the people on day one, he is the MOST suppisious. (i cant spell at all... :x) It's only day 2, and we need SOMETHING to go off of.


Ok so we are back to attacking Brawler

First off, I never said that I knew he was lying. All I asked was an explination of how he would know what mondak was doing.

Why are you being so defensive? And here you go calling ARMondak wolfy because he is targeting you.


No, I'm not calling him wofly because he voted for me. I'm calling him wolfy because of what hes said in his posts. I personally don't care who he votes for. Its his posts that I find odd.


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People, look at those posts, Darthpika is acting extremly dangerous here. He has attacked Azure Kite, ARMondak, Shadow Zangoose, Myself, and Brawler for posting somethign about him. He says he is not calling us wolves, but says we are acting wolfy. He keeps changing his opinions, and everytime someone votes for him, that person becaomes a mason group and wolf member.

I don't think Darth Pika is a wolf. I think he is an independant. Cardz has show there are indies in this game because the key on Post 1 says they are in Pink. DP is behaving like an indie. He is attacking all people who start to question him. If that is the case and he is an indie, then he is a danger to BOTH wolves and townies. I don't like how he jumps to conclusions and irrationally tries to accuse others.

I beleive that Darth Pika needs to be removed from this town before he does something that we will all regret.

Again, you logic/reasoning fits in with my theroy that you and ARMondak are either both wolves, or indys.

Again, if ARMondak turnes out to be town aligned then my theroy is dead, and I take back what I said about Absol.

No response to everything I just said about you Darth Pika? Why?

instead you continue to attack ARMondak

I was writing that as you posted. Didn't see your post untill after I had already posted, and then I had to wait for someone else to post.

 

[Absoltrainer]

Again, you logic/reasoning fits in with my theroy that you and ARMondak are either both wolves, or indys.

How exactly does that work?

 

[Azure Kite]

DP....I doubt you addressed a third of the accusations Absoltrainer has against you. And I see now Absol is right, and you're probably a paranoid independant, (possibly a vigilante) and need to go. But for now, my vote for ARMondak stands. DP, if you are a dangerous independant, and your not lynched today, I have a feeling me or Absoltrainer will be dead tomorrow. Let's see you do it. It'll be the final nail in your coffin. I want to get this day over with, so I'm holding my vote, but I dunno if you'll last past day 3.....

On a side note....GO STEELERS!!!!!

 

[DarthPika]

DP....I doubt you addressed a third of the accusations Absoltrainer has against you. And I see now Absol is right, and you're probably a paranoid independant, (possibly a vigilante) and need to go. But for now, my vote for ARMondak stands. DP, if you are a dangerous independant, and your not lynched today, I have a feeling me or Absoltrainer will be dead tomorrow. Let's see you do it. It'll be the final nail in your coffin. I want to get this day over with, so I'm holding my vote, but I dunno if you'll last past day 3.....

On a side note....GO STEELERS!!!!!

Kite, I don't want to go against you. And if Absol really isn't a wolf then I don't care to go against him either. If ARMondak is a wolf, then my idea is probably correct. Therefore, its highly unlikely that Absol would be voted out.

 

[homeofmew]

Unvote: Xenoz Blaid
reason: Azure Kite Reason.That nbetter be truue though.

Vote: Undecided

To be honest I am going between ARMONDAK and ABSOLTRAINER
Absoltrainer has been attacking DarthPika since like before day 1.
ARMONDAK- If he is starting a new term I do understand myself, but it does seem suspicious.

The Darth Pika Factor: Still might be a threat in the game due to some bad reactions.

 

[Absoltrainer]

Unvote: Xenoz Blaid
reason: Azure Kite Reason.That nbetter be truue though.

Vote: Undecided

To be honest I am going between ARMONDAK and ABSOLTRAINER
Absoltrainer has been attacking DarthPika since like before day 1.
ARMONDAK- If he is starting a new term I do understand myself, but it does seem suspicious.

The Darth Pika Factor: Still might be a threat in the game due to some bad reactions.

I've been attacking him because he's been acting strangly and attack everyone who says hello to him.

Look at his last post. He respond to Azure kite with "Kite I don't want to go against you." not only that but he once again ignored my post and did not respond.

 

[DarthPika]

I've been attacking him because he's been acting strangly and attack everyone who says hello to him.

Look at his last post. He respond to Azure kite with "Kite I don't want to go against you." not only that but he once again ignored my post and did not respond.

Actually, youve been attacking me since the start.

What about my last post? I said that I don't want to go agasint him. By that I mean, I'm not a wolf, I want to help him + the town.

I'll respond to your last post first thing tomorrow (real time, not game time). I really need to get to bed and it would take a while for me to give a good explanation of how it all works. I also can't think right when I'm over tired, so I'll just wait on that one. Sorry for making you wait.

 

[Time for Pain]

DP: almost everytime someone voted for you you got so defensive which is very suspicious.

Armondak: It looks like you played your hand early and I don't think you should get voted off if what you say is true.

Absol: You did start the attacks on DP but it now shows how defensive he is making it very suspicious.

 

[Pikamaster]

What you guys don't seem to remember is that he's a n00b. I doubt he want's to be lynched day 3 or 4. (Lol. It seems like the pokegym spell check accepts n00b as a word.) But back to the issue of voting, it's kinda obvious that ARMondak isn't necessarily a wolf. As I said, if he's such an important role, the wolves will kill him. If the wolves don't kill him, then I'd probably vote him out. BUT. Absol seem DETERMINED to lynch DP when he's probably not a wolf. Even though DP might be a threat, I'm not going to vote for him now. Why? Because Absol seems to be the bigger threat. He's been suspicious for a while, but for me, the continual attacks and the determination to find something wrong about what DP posted is kinda much.

I'm not going to vote for now, but I'm still going to be wary of Absol from now on.

 

[Absoltrainer]

I've already stated that I do not think DP is a wolf. I think he is an independant. A role that benifits from the death of both wolves and townies. Indies often have particularly nasty roles.

 

[Brawler]

ARMonkdak makes a great point. We will fall if we lose him.

As for now,

UNVOTE: ARMonkdak
VOTE: DarthPika

Reason: Jumped on a few players, overreacting, accusing people when it was the FIRST DAY!
Azure Kite and Absol make some good points.

 

[metricus]

You seriously believe him? He has no proof that he has an important role. The only reason I can see that you would agree with him on this is that your in a masonry/siblings with him or your both wolves.

 

[Mew*]

Yeah, I'll cut ARMondak a break since he has been posting to try to defend himself. I'll take his word for now that he is a vital role to the town.

I'm going to go with DarthPika because he's doing an awful job trying to defend himself and his constant labeling of everyone as a wolf is characteristic of an independent player since independents want everyone dead so they can be the last standing.

The only reason we had for voting ARMondak was that he took a long time to post. Well, now he's posting and that argument is very weak. However DarthPika only got worse.

UNVOTE: ARMonkdak
VOTE: DarthPika

 

[homeofmew]

personally I think if Darth Pika dies and isn't a wolf, does that make everyone attacking hm suspicions? Not the fact I do find it odd that Pika is going to great lengths to defends himself.

@Abasoltrainer at first I didn't think you were a wolf.. And That Darth Pika was suspicious since before day one. I totally agree. BUT if you are NOT a wolf Absoltrainer and you kill Pika and he's not a wolf you might be a lynch target, and you being probably a mason will not be good for this game.

just thinking ahead,
we need to kill a wolf.

-- TINA

 

[DarthPika]

Guys. I am NOT an independent. If you look at Absols logic you will notice that its flawed. It seems funny that I vote for ARMondak and Absol suddenly makes a big post about how dangerous I am to have around.

I'm also not labeling everyone a wolf. I said that if ARMondak is a wolf, then IMO theres a good chance that Absoltrainer is to.

As for over reacting on the first day, PLEASE keep in mind that this is the first time I have ever played this game. Azurekite also over reacted, but I don't see anyone picking on him for it.

ARMondak may not be a wolf, but his actions have been FAR stranger than mine. Once again, if he is SOOOOOOOOOOOOO important to the town (as he said if he dies the town will never win) then WHY would he tell all the wolves that? I ask that everyone please actually go back and look over the past posts. I for the most part have been going along with everyone else. Absoltrainer on the other hand has been trying to get rid of me since day 1. Why is that?

Heres how I see things ATM.

If ARMondak is a wolf, then theres a good chance of Absoltrainer also being a wolf.

If Absoltrainer is a wolf, then it would be the logical choice for him to try and defend ARMondak.

Absoltrainer says I'm a danger to the town. Why? I havn't done anything random/weird. I have given PLENTY of reasons for why I happen to be voting for someone or an idea I have. Have I over reacted a little? YES! I admit that I have over reacted. Again, I AM NEW TO THIS GAME! Look at my posts, if I have an idea and suggest it, I'll ask that the person who IMO made an odd post/did something I found odd, to EXPLAIN their actions. If they present to me a good enough explination for what they did, I'll drop it and leave them alone. My actions have hardly been random.

Why does Absol want me out? Well, this goes back to the if ARMondak is a wolf, then theres a good chance Absoltrainer is also a wolf reasoning. Let say for a moment that they are wolves. They see me as a threat and want me out.

Theres a decent chance that I could be wrong about this, but really I want to help the town. Please give me a chance and I swear I'll try my best to eliminate the wolves.