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One Side of the AZ States issue(now with both sides post 117)

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has anyone considered the fact that it's a workday and perhaps the PTO is unable to post from work? it's not uncommon after all; there are 'gym mods/admins unable to access the board during the day.

look at the timestamp of the OP: almost 1am this morning!

'mom

 
come on ken, bringing in quality competitive players is the issue here, i know they would like their local players to win the tournament, like last year, the only person that helped us was you in getting us translations on our jpnese cards, when i asked others for help, i was denied or they were to busy, you went out of your way to help me and my kids right away....like i said i contacted one of the PTO 2 hours prior to start of the tournament and every thirty mins where i was at on our driving to the tournament site.....my kids were already in line before the cut-off time....but they said, you had to be in line for registration not deck check line.....
 
come on ken, bringing in quality competitive players is the issue here, i know they would like their local players to win the tournament, like last year, the only person that helped us was you in getting us translations on our jpnese cards, when i asked others for help, i was denied or they were to busy, you went out of your way to help me and my kids right away....like i said i contacted one of the PTO 2 hours prior to start of the tournament and every thirty mins where i was at on our driving to the tournament site.....my kids were already in line before the cut-off time....but they said, you had to be in line for registration not deck check line.....

Hate to break the news to you hoss, but you are responible for your OWN translations.
 
What does this have to do with this topic? Whom are you refering to?
Why would you attack someone who has nothing to do with this?

Whoa! Calm down Rick. He was simply saying that sarcastically in response to Chairman Kaga when he questioned Ken's integrity.
 
Hate to break the news to you hoss, but you are responible for your OWN translations.

i know that, i had the translations in the car, the judges wanted them right away even they were told that they were in the car, going to the car would of taken 3 to 5 mins, when ken got them way less than that......
 
Now if I can make another comment earlier in the thread you really defending the PTO on what she did. I think many of us agree that she had the right to do what she did. I think the issue is was it the right decesion. While unforgenute a round 1 loss would have been a suitable penilty.

I really think the PTO needs to make some sort of statement and either defend what she did with good reasons or just come out say, you know it was crazy day I had 20 different things I had to manage, and I made a decesion based on limited information, and I'm sorry.

I have not yet had the opportunity to speak directly with the PTO in this matter either, however, I do know that this PTO had been giving warnings to players dating back to Battle Roads, that tardiness may lead to not being able to play.

This is also part of the crux of Bliz's issue with this, that others in the past had been allowed to enter with a first round loss, and suddenly, he feels as if she's come down hard on him.

S/P/T and above are Tier 2 events, and Tier 2 events are enforced at a different level than Tier one. Certainly, we like to give our PTOs some flexibility, just as we do our judges, in making some of these decisions.

Cases like this generally make us take another look at the particular policy, to see if it is really doing what is intended. In some cases, we've disallowed PTOs the ability to have 'options'. One example is the ability to manually pair a match. Even though there are many reasons to allow it, and not allowing it can cause hassles, the removal of this feature allows a PTO to diffuse a very common complaint, 'why did you pair me against X person?' and removes a great deal of assumptions about assumed impropriety.

If we believe the same is necessary in this case, we will update the policy, one way or another and PTOs will have a specific rule to follow in these cases, but will lose the ability to be flexible, even if flexibility seems appropriate.

Hope that helps.

Thank you,
Prof Dave
 
Whoa! Calm down Rick. He was simply saying that sarcastically in response to Chairman Kaga when he questioned Ken's integrity.

Cool, but what does the HJ at nats have to do with this? I got the HJ back just as I would have yours if someone called you scum.
Short and to the point.......
Dave has shown where the TO had the right to do what she did, and it seems he's ok with it.
We have 2 sides on this, and we have plenty of opinions both ways. But the fact of the matter is that insulting TO's and HJ's or anyone else that have nothing to do with this will change nothing. No matter what, it is already done, and now this will be a matter for Dave to deal with. Nothing anyone says at this point will change anything, except if you go to far, you could cause problems for yourself.
 
Sorry you were late/ and they didn't get to play
Maybe next time leave a day earlier it it is a long drive..

however you were late and the PTO can deny entry.

Always try to be early to the event.

i know that, i had the translations in the car, the judges wanted them right away even they were told that they were in the car, going to the car would of taken 3 to 5 mins, when ken got them way less than that......

Um yeah always have your translation at all time.
Out of deck reference means having the card dex/ cards with you.
I use a small pokemon binder as a translation booklet.
Worked for me at states and there was no issue with my Japanese cards.
 
i know that, i had the translations in the car, the judges wanted them right away even they were told that they were in the car, going to the car would of taken 3 to 5 mins, when ken got them way less than that......

You went to a tournament with Japanese cards in your deck and left the translations in your car? Even I know better than that.......and played with a 66 card deck! :lol:
I bet you didn't leave your trade binder in your car!!!:cool:
 
Rick I was the HJ at nats last year and my integrity was called into question and Chris was defending me with a back handed comment as in if I were scum why would PUI let me be the HJ.

BLiZz
 
Sorry you were late/ and they didn't get to play
Maybe next time leave a day earlier it it is a long drive..

however you were late and the PTO can deny entry.

Always try to be early to the event.



Um yeah always have your translation at all time.
Out of deck reference means having the card dex/ cards with you.
I use a small pokemon binder as a translation booklet.
Worked for me at states and there was no issue with my Japanese cards.

that's not the point, they knew my kids were competitive players, my 2 boys has won cal states, nev states, regionals in consecutive years...in my opinion they tried and succeeded in getting them a first round loss....in other places they would do registration first, then deck check afterwards or later...that's what is being done at nat'l, worlds, other states and regs
i kept it to myself til this issue came up................................

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You went to a tournament with Japanese cards in your deck and left the translations in your car? Even I know better than that.......and played with a 66 card deck! :lol:
I bet you didn't leave your trade binder in your car!!!:cool:

yes i did and all my selling merchandise.............
 
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Rick I was the HJ at nats last year and my integrity was called into question and Chris was defending me with a back handed comment as in if I were scum why would PUI let me be the HJ.

BLiZz
I still got your back anyway, Ken.
Hey Kirstin, thats too bad bud. I'm all broken up and such about that.
 
Cool, but what does the HJ at nats have to do with this? I got the HJ back just as I would have yours if someone called you scum.
Short and to the point.......
Dave has shown where the TO had the right to do what she did, and it seems he's ok with it.
We have 2 sides on this, and we have plenty of opinions both ways. But the fact of the matter is that insulting TO's and HJ's or anyone else that have nothing to do with this will change nothing. No matter what, it is already done, and now this will be a matter for Dave to deal with. Nothing anyone says at this point will change anything, except if you go to far, you could cause problems for yourself.


Give the man his star!!!!
 
Rick I was the HJ at nats last year and my integrity was called into question and Chris was defending me with a back handed comment as in if I were scum why would PUI let me be the HJ.

BLiZz

Well you do have notes tattooed on yourself to help remember the different energy...
Skin play FTW!
 
I have taken the time to read through this thread, I understand everyone’s comments from both sides. Many have asked for my side and I will post it here regarding the incident. Please take note I am not going to argue the choices of that day but I want to state my side so everyone will know what happened.
Everyone basis there choices off their past experiences; we have had players in the past entering tournaments late, delaying tournaments or gaming the event. Because of these past experiences we needed to impose a cut off time with the clause “you may be given a first round loss or you may not be allowed to enter the event.” This was not only posted but also announced at the previous events and I informed players of this when calling about the event.


40 minutes prior to registration closing I noticed that Ken had yet to arrive. I spoke with Cathy the Head judge and she let me know he was on his way.
As registration went on I made sure I announced at the 30 minutes, 15 minutes, 5 minutes and 1 minute mark how much time players had left to register.
At the designated time I made the final announcement, that player registration is closed. Any players showing up late will not be entered into the event barring any extenuating circumstances.

Within 3 minutes of my announcement, Ken walked through the door. He said was late on the account of hitting all the red lights. I informed him registration is closed. I went on to explain he had an hour and 45 minutes to get here and red lights are not extenuating circumstances. At that point Ken turned around and walked out the door. Shortly after that the Head Judge Cathy quit and walked out. I then regrouped the judges and was able to reassign judging positions as needed so the event could continue. The tournament start was delayed due to software issues. While working on the software issue, I had two players who drove up with Ken approach me to plead their case. They asked if there was anyway to get a first round loss, I reminded one of the players we had spoken the night before not to be late for the event as they would not be allowed to enter. These players were aware of the importance of arriving during registration. At this point it was never mentioned the reason they were late was because they had to turn aound around to retrieve insulin.
I was not made aware of this reason until an hour and a half after they arrived. Once again these players told me, when they arrived, they were late due to red lights not due to turning around to retrieve insulin. The information I was given when they arrived is what I based my call off of. Red lights are not extenuating circumstances.

I am sorry this has happened, but I have to apply the rules to all players.

This will be my only post on this issue.
 
Patricia is one of the most knowledgeable users of TMS, second probably only to the TMS developer, so I highly doubt it had anything to do with late additions/pairings in TMS. The only viable reasons have to be "event integrity disruption" or "event capacity attainment."

(Answered - event integrity disruption).
 
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While working on the software issue, I had two players who drove up with Ken approach me to plead their case. They asked if there was anyway to get a first round loss, I reminded one of the players we had spoken the night before not to be late for the event as they would not be allowed to enter. These players were aware of the importance of arriving during registration. At this point it was never mentioned the reason they were late was because they had to turn aound around to retrieve insulin.
I was not made aware of this reason until an hour and a half after they arrived. Once again these players told me, when they arrived, they were late due to red lights not due to turning around to retrieve insulin. The information I was given when they arrived is what I based my call off of. Red lights are not extenuating circumstances.

I am sorry this has happened, but I have to apply the rules to all players.

This will be my only post on this issue.


thanks for posting patricia.

'mom
 
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